Monica Rambeau vs Hulk

This is current hulk.

before anybody who does not know who she is yells spite here is her respect thread.

http://www.comicvine.com/monica-rambeau/4005-11337/forums/monica-rambeau-aka-sun-goddess-capabilities-feats--1530131/#13

should i do WWH instead im not to big on that version though i just heard people say he was really strong

It makes no difference what version of the Hulk u use. Monica is immune to physical attacks and any gamma rays the Hulk might emit wont do crap to her either.

Hulk can't touch her.

Beating Monica requires a fairly high end energy manipulator.

Actually, Banner would have better chance with a technological device than Hulk would ever have at beating her.

When creating a battle it's important the battle be fair to all combatants. These two people don't have a similar powerset for this to be a good battle. You might as well have The Hulk vs air.

@skaddix: agreed.

Don't normally say this but this looks like a legit spite match

Monica can tag and hurt Hulk, while the same can't be said otherwise. She is one of Marvels most underrated and also one of the most powerful.

Monica. This is a really bad fight for hulk.

Give Banner prep and maybe this would be different. As is Hulk is fighting a losing battle.

Monica

ALL OF THE ABOVE

I don't think she could beat hulk because she his gamma reserves are too high for her to make a lasting effect and her power output may not be enough

you do realise Monica can become ANY type of energy? ... and she can duplicate herself .. 100,000 little Monicas all with her exact powerset ...

Draining

Isn't she a more powerful version of X-ray from U-foes?

She can effect Zeus so that he actually feels her attacks. Meanwhile Zeus cleaned Hulk's clock with pure physical strength. She can probably just drain off his gamma energy though.

Stalemate.

She won't be able to bring him down and he won't be able to touch her. I don't see the point in these type of battles. Either Hulk gets bored and leaves or what is much more likely, Monica gets tired and has to exit.

Does this trick still work on the modern Hulk?

@malachi_munroe: nothing on the em spectrum would be that much of a problem. Im not saying hulk would win im just saying monica would have a hard time hurting hulk in any case

@bones309: I believe she tried to phase through him with the same tactic before and it didn't work, i'll try to find the scan.

If it's from Hulk #300, I believe he had no Banner to turn into in that issue.

Tony told her to attack Hulk with gamma rays and Photon was like " wouldn't that just make him stronger?" she did it any way and it didn't work. But that was gamma rays. not anti gamma rays

I see no reason she can't explode/over heat/electricute his internal organs by passing through him. She was powerful enough to overload the shields on Thanos ship. She hit Fing Fang Fooms heart with a petawatt of energy. I think she can KO him. She can try different things until something works. no rush really

@bones309: Correct, but Mindless Hulk still had Banner inside, just very deeply suppressed. Any Hulk without Banner collapses and actually he died twice because of this. That said, she attacked him with Gamma Rays, which at that moment was one of his weaknesses so the point might stand, if she can generate Negative Gamma Rays, which im not sure she can, let alone coming to the idea of using them, she could potentially beat him easily since Hulk is highly susceptible to them in huge doses. Although, the attack must be consistent to keep him from Hulking out again.

@pooty: I know, i just checked out the issue, either way, Gamma Rays were as successful as Negative Gamma Rays in that moment and Banner himself stated huge doses of Gamma Energy could forcibly turn him back to Banner.

Monica

As you saw, she just passed through him. she didn't go all out. She may have more success if she stayed inside him like shown below. If gamma rays don't work anymore she attack his internal organs in huge amounts

@pooty: Gamma Rays are currently absorbed by Hulk after the Core-Breach in Sakaar, he took the same Gamma Bomb that altered Banner's cells in the face and he was "squared" capable of performing shockwaves with a mere "wave" of his arm. Same happens with Cosmic Energy as proven during the Cathexis overload in Pak's run. I don't think Spectrum using Gamma Rays as a way to deal with Hulk is the smartest thing to do. Negative Gamma Rays on the other hand, have a flawless track of dealing with him graciously, however, only 2 people have done it and that's X-Ray and Reed Richards with tons of prep and Banner's studies in the Gamma field. If she can pull such tactic, she stomps him rather effortlessly.

Monica should win comfortably. Only bumping because Monica has been impressive as of lately. I personally consider her high tier.

spectrum easily

Monica

Spectrum

Monica stomps, especially if it's current Hulk.

I still think that Monica should win. But...

Using cosmic/anti-gamma rays might not be a good strategy.

Hulk is a very powerful beast but there is nothing he can do stop Monica Rambeau. Monica's primary power is electromagnetic spectrum manipulation. The electromagnetic spectrum consists of Radio Waves, Infrared radiation, Visible light, Ultraviolet radiation, X-rays and Gamma radiation(Hulk's power source). With that being said, Monica could easily drain the gamma radiation out of Hulk reverting him to Bruce Banner just like Silver Surfer did.

Monica is vastly faster than Hulk and she could just one-shot him by ripping a hole through him with a powerful blast like she did to a zombified Hulk version in Secret Wars - A-Force #5.

OT: Monica Rambeau atomizes the Hulk neg-diff

Hulk would have a much better chance nowadays as he’s shown a lot of gamma absorption and absorption resistance.

Monica ftw

Not like Surfer scaling to a 60's Hulk + Monica one-shotting a random other alt-verse Hulk that wasn't even the one used here matters much, anyway. You might as well show Hulk beating up any energy manipulator if we're generalising that much.

@professorrespect: Pretty much, lol

Coming from someone who made Monica's respect thread she just doesn't have the potency to really deal with Hulk. Sure her speed will be a problem but that's it. Current Monica is also hella inconsistent speed wise due to the MCU influence

@jcomics2000: What you said doesn’t really apply to modern Hulk.

He has shown really good gamma absorption and absorption resistance since the 60’s, not to mention that Monica isn’t Silver Surfer.

Furthermore, you can’t compare an alt-universe zombie Hulk to OG 616 Hulk. Modern Hulk purposely ripped a hole through his torso while fighting All-Father Thor; he proceeded to carry on fighting like nothing happened and it healed.

Hulk.

Would Hulks claps effect her? otherwise I really don't know here.

Monica whoops his ass, there's nothing Hulk can do to her. And she can cut off his head. He's not going to die but its enough for a win.

@jay_z94: What's hulk going to do to her though?

Hulk

@fuillermo: I don’t know, I was just refuting that guy’s post. How will she cut of his head? Consistently speaking it takes adamantium weaponry to do that.

Stalemate

@jay_z94: 30 years ago, she could cut Skyfather's like Zeus with lightening which is one of her craziest feats but nobody talks about it. The fact that the most powerful lightening God at that time in Marvel got cut by lightening was shocking to me.

She can put him in a hard light construct, and just take her sweet time using a focused light beam. Which should be about 10 nanoseconds.