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- No IG for Magus
- Random encounter in space
- To the KO or incapacitation
dude ran through multiple Supermen and Captain Atoms at once IIRC..." @King Saturn said:
" I am gonna back Monarch for the win here "Any specific reason? "
" @superdemon said:At that time Warlock was pretty much equal to Silver Surfer. Magus was smacking them, and Thanos around." @King Saturn said:dude ran through multiple Supermen and Green Lanterns at once IIRC... "" I am gonna back Monarch for the win here "Any specific reason? "
" @King Saturn said:not as impressive as what Monarch has done... smacking around Thanos is one thing... defeating multiple Supermen and Captain Atoms at once is more impressive IMO..." @superdemon said:At that time Warlock was pretty much equal to Silver Surfer. Magus was smacking them, and Thanos around. "" @King Saturn said:dude ran through multiple Supermen and Green Lanterns at once IIRC... "" I am gonna back Monarch for the win here "Any specific reason? "
Well, some people believe Thanos' power was doubled during the Magus saga. Magus had created an exact Thanos clone. They fought, and one of them won. He changed the other into a butterfly and ate him, essentially absorbing the others power permanently. So bringing it to Thanos is more impressive, IMO, than most give him credit for, as I do believe he did doubled his power.
I don't know how to call it.
" Well, some people believe Thanos' power was doubled during the Magus saga. Magus had created an exact Thanos clone. They fought, and one of them won. He changed the other into a butterfly and ate him, essentially absorbing the others power permanently. So bringing it to Thanos is more impressive, IMO, than most give him credit for, as I do believe he did doubled his power. I don't know how to call it. "well now... some people need to bring something to show that Thanos power was truly doubled during that arc... otherwise just saying it does not mean much...
" @superdemon said:It's actually obvious that he was upgraded" Well, some people believe Thanos' power was doubled during the Magus saga. Magus had created an exact Thanos clone. They fought, and one of them won. He changed the other into a butterfly and ate him, essentially absorbing the others power permanently. So bringing it to Thanos is more impressive, IMO, than most give him credit for, as I do believe he did doubled his power. I don't know how to call it. "well now... some people need to bring something to show that Thanos power was truly doubled during that arc... otherwise just saying it does not mean much... "
" @King Saturn said:this does not answer the question at hand though... Thanos could have been upgraded and NOT doubled in power... and since I do not see where it says his power doubled... the question still lingers..." @superdemon said:It's actually obvious that he was upgraded" Well, some people believe Thanos' power was doubled during the Magus saga. Magus had created an exact Thanos clone. They fought, and one of them won. He changed the other into a butterfly and ate him, essentially absorbing the others power permanently. So bringing it to Thanos is more impressive, IMO, than most give him credit for, as I do believe he did doubled his power. I don't know how to call it. "well now... some people need to bring something to show that Thanos power was truly doubled during that arc... otherwise just saying it does not mean much... "
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He absorbed his clone who was an exact copy of Thanos who was said to have even GREATER power than Thanos. So it probably did more than simply double him. Here" @superdemon said:
" @King Saturn said:this does not answer the question at hand though... Thanos could have been upgraded and NOT doubled in power... and since I do not see where it says his power doubled... the question still lingers... "" @superdemon said:It's actually obvious that he was upgraded" Well, some people believe Thanos' power was doubled during the Magus saga. Magus had created an exact Thanos clone. They fought, and one of them won. He changed the other into a butterfly and ate him, essentially absorbing the others power permanently. So bringing it to Thanos is more impressive, IMO, than most give him credit for, as I do believe he did doubled his power. I don't know how to call it. "well now... some people need to bring something to show that Thanos power was truly doubled during that arc... otherwise just saying it does not mean much... "
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" @King Saturn said:maybe... it's still an assumption... even if I gave you this... I still take Monarch feat over Magus feat anyday..." @superdemon said:He absorbed his clone who was an exact copy of Thanos who was said to have ever GREATER power than Thanos. So it probably did more than simply double him. Here "" @King Saturn said:this does not answer the question at hand though... Thanos could have been upgraded and NOT doubled in power... and since I do not see where it says his power doubled... the question still lingers... "" @superdemon said:It's actually obvious that he was upgraded" Well, some people believe Thanos' power was doubled during the Magus saga. Magus had created an exact Thanos clone. They fought, and one of them won. He changed the other into a butterfly and ate him, essentially absorbing the others power permanently. So bringing it to Thanos is more impressive, IMO, than most give him credit for, as I do believe he did doubled his power. I don't know how to call it. "well now... some people need to bring something to show that Thanos power was truly doubled during that arc... otherwise just saying it does not mean much... "
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" @superdemon said:" @King Saturn said:not as impressive as what Monarch has done... smacking around Thanos is one thing... defeating multiple Supermen and Captain Atoms at once is more impressive IMO..." @superdemon said:At that time Warlock was pretty much equal to Silver Surfer. Magus was smacking them, and Thanos around. "" @King Saturn said:dude ran through multiple Supermen and Green Lanterns at once IIRC... "" I am gonna back Monarch for the win here "Any specific reason? "
I aint posting the whole battle... cause I do not feel like looking for all the scans... "
Well... what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn: Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that absorbing something just as powerful as you would double your power. Its logical. And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say. lol I'm undecided for now. "
Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself, with tech." @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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" @King Saturn said:well technically Thanos used the Orb in the battle though... he may have not been amped by the Orb... but I do recall him using the power of the orb at some point to attack Tyrant IIRC... also, is this something that really shows that Thanos power was doubled though ? I mean at regular levels was not Thanos able to match the power of In Betweener and even hold up to Odin... or was he powered up then too ?Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself. "" @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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Yes, he blasted Tyrant with the orb twice. But when they were in an arm lock, it was pure strength on Thanos' part. Tyrant even said he was humbled by Thanos." @superdemon said:
well technically Thanos used the Orb in the battle though... he may have not been amped by the Orb... but I do recall him using the power of the orb at some point to attack Tyrant IIRC... also, is this something that really shows that Thanos power was doubled though ? I mean at regular levels was not Thanos able to match the power of In Betweener and even hold up to Odin... or was he powered up then too ? "" @King Saturn said:
Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself. "" @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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he had a Gem when he fought In Betweener... but I do not think he was using it at all times against In Betweener..." @King Saturn said:
I'm pretty positive this amping is what put him up to those levels. I'd have to go home and dig through my collection of Thanos comics and verify 100% though. But I'm almost positive. IIRC he had an infinity gem vs the Inbetweener didn't he though? "" @superdemon said:
well technically Thanos used the Orb in the battle though... he may have not been amped by the Orb... but I do recall him using the power of the orb at some point to attack Tyrant IIRC... also, is this something that really shows that Thanos power was doubled though ? I mean at regular levels was not Thanos able to match the power of In Betweener and even hold up to Odin... or was he powered up then too ? "" @King Saturn said:
Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself. "" @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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Thought so. And I'm not sure. I could look for scans if you want." @superdemon said:
" @King Saturn said:he had a Gem when he fought In Betweener... but I do not think he was using it at all times against In Betweener...I'm pretty positive this amping is what put him up to those levels. I'd have to go home and dig through my collection of Thanos comics and verify 100% though. But I'm almost positive. IIRC he had an infinity gem vs the Inbetweener didn't he though? "" @superdemon said:
" @King Saturn said:well technically Thanos used the Orb in the battle though... he may have not been amped by the Orb... but I do recall him using the power of the orb at some point to attack Tyrant IIRC... also, is this something that really shows that Thanos power was doubled though ? I mean at regular levels was not Thanos able to match the power of In Betweener and even hold up to Odin... or was he powered up then too ? "Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself. "" @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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also... I still do not see a real distinction between what Thanos can do at normal levels... and what he supposedly can do with this double in power...
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And just to throw this out there, if Thanos did succeed in amping himself with Tyrants orb, that would put him on even higher levels. But that's neither here nor there right now. =P "" @King Saturn said: Yes, he blasted Tyrant with the orb twice. But when they were in an arm lock, it was pure strength on Thanos' part. Tyrant even said he was humbled by Thanos. I'm pretty positive this doppelganger amping is what put him up to those levels. I'd have to go home and dig through my collection of Thanos comics and verify 100% though. But I'm almost positive. IIRC he had an infinity gem vs the Inbetweener didn't he though?
Thanos upgrading himself in general isnt the issue here... it's what he can do with this specific power double compared to when he was at normal levels... also, Thanos with the power double seems more like the Normal Thanos that is often used on this site in the Battle Forums... even if Thanos did augment himself and double his level of power... this augmented version of Thanos is more like the Thanos we normally use in the Battle Forums here... so your point almost becomes moot since we tend to use the Thanos who was able to to hold up to In Betweener, Odin, etc. in the Battles on this site..." @King Saturn said:
" @superdemon said:Thought so. And I'm not sure. I could look for scans if you want. I'll dig some stuff up and make some comparisons when I get home on the different power levels. Augmentation is part of Thanos' character though. He is constantly seeking ways of augmenting himself. Where it be an item, or permanent augmentation. Its not hard to believe he was upgraded. "" @King Saturn said:he had a Gem when he fought In Betweener... but I do not think he was using it at all times against In Betweener...I'm pretty positive this amping is what put him up to those levels. I'd have to go home and dig through my collection of Thanos comics and verify 100% though. But I'm almost positive. IIRC he had an infinity gem vs the Inbetweener didn't he though? "" @superdemon said:
" @King Saturn said:well technically Thanos used the Orb in the battle though... he may have not been amped by the Orb... but I do recall him using the power of the orb at some point to attack Tyrant IIRC... also, is this something that really shows that Thanos power was doubled though ? I mean at regular levels was not Thanos able to match the power of In Betweener and even hold up to Odin... or was he powered up then too ? "Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself. "" @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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also... I still do not see a real distinction between what Thanos can do at normal levels... and what he supposedly can do with this double in power...
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Not really. Some people around here don't even consider Thanos a planet buster. Most think current Surfer can beat him. He had shown us that he can fly and bust planets way before his Death upgrade, even. And then he's received multiple augmentations since then. Personally, I believe that even at his Odin fight level, he could mop the floor with Current Surfer." @superdemon said:
Thanos upgrading himself in general isnt the issue here... it's what he can do with this specific power double compared to when he was at normal levels... also, Thanos with the power double seems more like the Normal Thanos that is often used on this site in the Battle Forums... even if Thanos did augment himself and double his level of power... this augmented version of Thanos is more like the Thanos we normally use in the Battle Forums here... so your point almost becomes moot since we tend to use the Thanos who was able to to hold up to In Betweener, Odin, etc. in the Battles on this site... "" @King Saturn said:
" @superdemon said:Thought so. And I'm not sure. I could look for scans if you want. I'll dig some stuff up and make some comparisons when I get home on the different power levels. Augmentation is part of Thanos' character though. He is constantly seeking ways of augmenting himself. Where it be an item, or permanent augmentation. Its not hard to believe he was upgraded. "" @King Saturn said:he had a Gem when he fought In Betweener... but I do not think he was using it at all times against In Betweener...I'm pretty positive this amping is what put him up to those levels. I'd have to go home and dig through my collection of Thanos comics and verify 100% though. But I'm almost positive. IIRC he had an infinity gem vs the Inbetweener didn't he though? "" @superdemon said:
" @King Saturn said:well technically Thanos used the Orb in the battle though... he may have not been amped by the Orb... but I do recall him using the power of the orb at some point to attack Tyrant IIRC... also, is this something that really shows that Thanos power was doubled though ? I mean at regular levels was not Thanos able to match the power of In Betweener and even hold up to Odin... or was he powered up then too ? "Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself. "" @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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also... I still do not see a real distinction between what Thanos can do at normal levels... and what he supposedly can do with this double in power...
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" @King Saturn said:but see you are talking about some people... I can not vouch for everyone on the site... but in general those feats of Thanos holding his own against Odin and In Betweener are attributed to Thanos at normal levels... at least from what I know from the decent minds on this site... and you are right Thanos has received multiple augmentations... but for the most part they go unnoticed and are attributed to Thanos at normal levels still..." @superdemon said:Not really. Some people around here don't even consider Thanos a planet buster. Most think current Curfer can beat him. He had shown us that he can fly and bust planets way before his Death upgrade, even. And then he's received multiple augmentations since then. Personally, I believe that even at his Odin fight level, he could mop the floor with Current Surfer. "Thanos upgrading himself in general isnt the issue here... it's what he can do with this specific power double compared to when he was at normal levels... also, Thanos with the power double seems more like the Normal Thanos that is often used on this site in the Battle Forums... even if Thanos did augment himself and double his level of power... this augmented version of Thanos is more like the Thanos we normally use in the Battle Forums here... so your point almost becomes moot since we tend to use the Thanos who was able to to hold up to In Betweener, Odin, etc. in the Battles on this site... "" @King Saturn said:
" @superdemon said:Thought so. And I'm not sure. I could look for scans if you want. I'll dig some stuff up and make some comparisons when I get home on the different power levels. Augmentation is part of Thanos' character though. He is constantly seeking ways of augmenting himself. Where it be an item, or permanent augmentation. Its not hard to believe he was upgraded. "" @King Saturn said:he had a Gem when he fought In Betweener... but I do not think he was using it at all times against In Betweener...I'm pretty positive this amping is what put him up to those levels. I'd have to go home and dig through my collection of Thanos comics and verify 100% though. But I'm almost positive. IIRC he had an infinity gem vs the Inbetweener didn't he though? "" @superdemon said:
" @King Saturn said:well technically Thanos used the Orb in the battle though... he may have not been amped by the Orb... but I do recall him using the power of the orb at some point to attack Tyrant IIRC... also, is this something that really shows that Thanos power was doubled though ? I mean at regular levels was not Thanos able to match the power of In Betweener and even hold up to Odin... or was he powered up then too ? "Stalemated Tyrant for 1. And no, he was not amped by the orb. In order for the ord to amp you you have to use tech - just like Tyrant does. Thanos was seen after the fight attempting to amp himself. "" @superdemon said:
what feats did Thanos show after this to say his Power was Much Greater though... what did he do in this form to say he was much more powerful now then before..." @King Saturn:
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical.
And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say.
I'm undecided for now. XP
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also... I still do not see a real distinction between what Thanos can do at normal levels... and what he supposedly can do with this double in power...
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" thanos wasnt holding his own odin was going easy on him but odin was suprised by thanos's power so even while holding back thanos never really stood a chance at all so holding his own isnt really the thing to say for that fight "Odin was going easy, yet he destroyed parts of Asgard, and sent Asgardians fleeing from their homes?
" @superdemon: what fight are yous talking about im talking about odin smacking around surfer and thanos "Odin one shotted Surfer. And yes, I'm talking about the same fight. You're also neglecting to mention that Thanos didn't even want to fight. Plus, like I've already said.. he destroyed parts of Asgard, and sent Asgardians fleeing from their homes. He also said he was the toughest foe he's fought in Eons.
" @King Saturn:Have you read Arena? Monarch was a beast in that story.
Well, I mean I think it's fair to say that augmenting yourself with something just as powerful as you would double your power. Augmenting yourself with something more powerful would do even more. Its logical. And maybe you're right about the feats. It's hard to say. I'm undecided for now. XP "
Monarch would beat classic magus that's 8n the op. But latest magus stomps
"classic" Magus still had soul hax, so this is completely incorrect.
Depends on how serious Monarch is, because he can easily blitz
Monarch blitzing is pretty bizarre. Most of his fights is him standing or not moving very much: mostly because he doesn't need to do so, and the fact that he just isn't that fast in general.
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Monarch blitzing is pretty bizarre. Most of his fights is him standing or not moving very much: mostly because he doesn't need to do so, and the fact that he just isn't that fast in general.
use your brain
all this proves is that Monarch is so freaking fast that even on the panel he looks like he is frozen in place
@professorrespect: eh but more modern magus is more powerful overall. Busted many planets as a side effect
@sirdragonfly: magus stands a chance here
@sirdragonfly: magus stands a chance here
He knows that.
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