Morals off. Bloodlust on.
Fight takes place in deep space.
All holding nothing back.
Who wins?
@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:
This is a Thor Vs Superman battle in disguise...
Superman>Hulk
RKT>Monarch
lmao
But how about RKT vs Superman Prime & Monarch vs WWH
@never give up said:
@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:
This is a Thor Vs Superman battle in disguise...
Superman>Hulk
RKT>Monarch
lmao
But how about RKT vs Superman Prime & Monarch vs WWH
Well, IMO, RKT>>Superman and Monarch>>>WWH
@The_Lunact_And_Manic said:
This is a Thor Vs Superman battle in disguise...
Superman>Hulk
RKT>Monarch
Reasons?
Just going off of feats RKT is multi-galaxy level. Monarch has the potential to be universal level.
@Killemall: Well I didn't want to sound like a Thor hater, (which I am commonly mistaken to be.) Yeah I'm just going off how he's supposed to be above Odin, who is galaxy level. Though I'm still not convinced that puts him above or even on par with Monarch.
@logy5000: I have never actually put Monarch above a skyfather to be fair, i think Odin himself could beat Monarch. His best feat is defeating an army of Superman level being (i dont count busting the universe a feat as it wasnt done by him, but as a result of his death). Odin simply has better feats and well as seen in recent Thor: Everything Burns, he can absorb energies capable of destroying a universe with a one hand no less :p
@Killemall said:
@logy5000: I have never actually put Monarch above a skyfather to be fair, i think Odin himself could beat Monarch. His best feat is defeating an army of Superman level being (i dont count busting the universe a feat as it wasnt done by him, but as a result of his death). Odin simply has better feats and well as seen in recent Thor: Everything Burns, he can absorb energies capable of destroying a universe with a one hand no less :p
Odin can do that?!? I've been underestimating him. 0.0
But if Rune King Thor breaks Monarch's armor open, what would happen to Thor?
@logy5000 said:
Odin can do that?!? I've been underestimating him. 0.0
But if Rune King Thor breaks Monarch's armor open, what would happen to Thor?
Odin that fairly recently but you would need a little context to understand the feat.
Firstly Loki explains about Sutur's fire
So the fire to un-make the universe (so yeah universal fire). Then here we see Thor kill Surtur, using his only weakness Twilight Sword (not the real sword but its shadow), and Sutur explains how this act only releases the fire inside him, which was meant to unmake the universe.
And Odin pops up
RKT could likely find a way to channel the energies from Monarch as well.
Hulk is definitely the huge weak link here, but I dont buy RKT could beat Monarch, and especially not Superman Prime. Im going to say Superman Prime (if this is the DC One Million version, not adult Superboy Prime), he does solo, as the Hulk doesnt even have to be a threat to him until he wants him to be.
@deaditegonzo said:
Hulk is definitely the huge weak link here, but I dont buy RKT could beat Monarch, and especially not Superman Prime. Im going to say Superman Prime (if this is the DC One Million version, not adult Superboy Prime), he does solo, as the Hulk doesnt even have to be a threat to him until he wants him to be.
Im sure it's the Superman Prime that fought Monarch, no other reason besides the fact that they are always paired up in team fights and the OP doesn't say 1 million ........
Is this superman prime at his peak or running out of power? If at peak then curbstomps everyone, not then he still solos, Monarch could solo too.
I could see WWH being a good addition to Thor's team because RKT is so strong. It would not be fair to give him someone on his side that was close to his power, so Hulk makes sense, but not in Space. I know Hulk can survive in open space no problem, but he doesn't have flight. He is going to have to try and swim around to get to Supes and Monarch. If there was surfaces he could jump and bounce off of, then he would at least pose a small threat.
Monarch & Superman Prime take this. Superman Prime is invulnerable to magic, so RKT is useless against him. WWH would just get stomped by either of them anyway. Plus Monarch could potentially drain WWH of energy (don't think he can affect magic though.)
@Killemall: By the way, if Odin can absorb universal attacks into his hand, why was a hungry Galactus, who is multi-galaxy level, a huge threat to him?
How come SOME people only slightly put RKT above Odin? He is definitely, way above Odin. Capable of so much more and did what Odin couldn't do without breaking a sweat. RKT spite thread btw
@logy5000 said:
@Killemall: By the way, if Odin can absorb universal attacks into his hand, why was a hungry Galactus, who is multi-galaxy level, a huge threat to him?
Galactus is pretty powerful and Marvel seem to have a clear hierarchy. Heralds, Hell Lords (assuming outside their domain), skyfather, Celestial and Abstract seem to be just seemengly more powerful. Galactus is somewhere between Celestial and Abstract level most of the time.
Also not sure where multiple galaxy level tag comes from, Thor Annual 01 he nearly destroyed multiverse or universe (left a little ambigious) as a result of his fight against The Other and Scarier, both on same power level as Galactus.
Here i am going to copy paste my post from another thread:
Sure but i have to go step by step as its a little hard to explain the stuff.
Firstly, here among other the most important thing Obvilion says he he wants the multiverse to die and thats his wish.
Then we see how Obvilion addresses Mikaboshi as a mere aspect of himself and that he failed, but most importantly he says if the barricade that seperated The Other from our universe and hence keeps him at arms length from Scarier, if the barrier breaks (which does in the issue later by Thor), and if the two collide (not both are just Galactus level being, but more on that later) then Chaos War where 98% of the marvel multiverse was destroyed was merely a prelude and this would be the end of ALL universe.
The Galactus joins the fight with The Scarier and The Other, and the entire reality (generally a universe) is about to collapse and Obvilion is asking if this is the end (the end of multiverse) that he has been waiting for
Then we have Rachel asking Galactus and Scarier to stop because their fight would end everything, and eventually all 3 seem to accept it would and stopped fighting.
In line with what Oblivion states it does look like we are talking about the end of the multiverse.
And whats interesting is it was the same writer who wrote Galactus vs Odin fight, Odin's insane feat in The Might Thor 21 as well as Galactus feat here (Matt Fraction).
@Killemall: RKT Is WAY stronger than Odin by miles...
He defeated Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, including teleportation within a dimension (while even Odin could not), to Valhalla, Surtur's realm, and the Fates at the World Tree, Destroy a Mjolnir copy and channel it's energy into a magical force blast sufficient to destroy two demons simultaneously, unleash a wave of mystical energy strong enough to best Loki armed with a duplicate of Mjolnir, destroy the rebuilt Valhalla and slay numerous Rock Trolls in seconds, raise circular energy shields bordered by runes to block formidable blows of Mangog, see even without physical eyes and remove Loki's head without quenching his life.
Taken from
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/29-2268/rune-king-thor-help/92-657260/
@Pyrogram said:
@Killemall: RKT Is WAY stronger than Odin by miles...
He defeated Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, (were cestials weren't they?) including teleportation within a dimension (while even Odin could not), to Valhalla, Surtur's realm, and the Fates at the World Tree, Destroy a Mjolnir copy and channel it's energy into a magical force blast sufficient to destroy two demons simultaneously, unleash a wave of mystical energy strong enough to best Loki armed with a duplicate of Mjolnir, destroy the rebuilt Valhalla and slay numerous Rock Trolls in seconds, raise circular energy shields bordered by runes to block formidable blows of Mangog, see even without physical eyes and remove Loki's head without quenching his life. (might I add he didn't really exert much effort in the process)
Taken from
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/29-2268/rune-king-thor-help/92-657260/
U stay out of this :3
@Alyssabird said:
@Pyrogram said:
@Killemall: RKT Is WAY stronger than Odin by miles...
He defeated Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, (were cestials weren't they?) including teleportation within a dimension (while even Odin could not), to Valhalla, Surtur's realm, and the Fates at the World Tree, Destroy a Mjolnir copy and channel it's energy into a magical force blast sufficient to destroy two demons simultaneously, unleash a wave of mystical energy strong enough to best Loki armed with a duplicate of Mjolnir, destroy the rebuilt Valhalla and slay numerous Rock Trolls in seconds, raise circular energy shields bordered by runes to block formidable blows of Mangog, see even without physical eyes and remove Loki's head without quenching his life. (might I add he didn't really exert much effort in the process)
Taken from
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/29-2268/rune-king-thor-help/92-657260/
U stay out of this :3
@Pyrogram said:
@Killemall: RKT Is WAY stronger than Odin by miles...
He defeated Those Who Sit Above in Shadow, including teleportation within a dimension (while even Odin could not), to Valhalla, Surtur's realm, and the Fates at the World Tree, Destroy a Mjolnir copy and channel it's energy into a magical force blast sufficient to destroy two demons simultaneously, unleash a wave of mystical energy strong enough to best Loki armed with a duplicate of Mjolnir, destroy the rebuilt Valhalla and slay numerous Rock Trolls in seconds, raise circular energy shields bordered by runes to block formidable blows of Mangog, see even without physical eyes and remove Loki's head without quenching his life.
Taken from
http://www.comicvine.com/thor/29-2268/rune-king-thor-help/92-657260/
I have read the whole Ragnarok arc.
Firstly, Those Who Sit Above The Shadows was only first mention during Lord Of Asgard story arc and they were meant to be Gods that Asgardian pray to. We do not know how powerful they are, also Thor doesnt actually fight and beat him, he simply breaks the tread of fate that they feed upon. Also the whole point of this was to make Thor more human, so TWAIS couldnt predict his moves, while Odin was a pure Asgardian.
I am a little unsure to what you mean by teleport within a dimension while even Odin couldnt? Which dimension are you talking about? If you are talking about Valhalla, Loki has gone to Valhalla on his own accord, a kid Loki at that. Not sure why people think Odin cant go there, Odin is the allfather he can go to any realm connected to world engine.
The rest are impressive but doesnt even put him at Odin's level because Odin frankly has better feats than that, in pretty much every department. The only think that puts him above Odin is the bio which states he was above Odin.
Dont get me wrong, i am not against Thor or anything, but people at times tend to forget how truely impressive Odin is.
@Pyrogram said:
@Killemall: I understand you, Odin is impressive as anything, but RKT did what odin done but went the step further, he just has more power on paper but not feats wise.
Ha! Thor has OF, so Odins Feats count as well. Also, he's not merely a step, he's at least double. So try over the horizon. Also, Odin has more impressive feats than Galactus.
@Pyrogram said:
@Killemall: I understand you, Odin is impressive as anything, but RKT did what odin done but went the step further, he just has more power on paper but not feats wise.
Exactly, where he has outperformed Odin was actually when he merged with the universe , but thats about it. I have seen people claim Thor could see the future, forgetting that Odin actually foresaw The Regning long before it happened and was discussing against Watcher.
But on paper RKT is more powerful, but i dont understand where people get way more powerful from. All the bio says is more powerful than Odin.
@Pyrogram said:
@Killemall said:
@Alyssabird: @Pyrogram: Alright, i guess i will step aside and let you two love bird discuss :p Have fun
I am not amused at this comment. 0_o
Becuz for him, I am also over the horizon :3
@Alyssabird said:
Ha! Thor has OF, so Odins Feats count as well. Also, he's not merely a step, he's at least double. So try over the horizon. Also, Odin has more impressive feats than Galactus.
Firstly how does having OF change anything. Odin inhereted OF from Bor as well. Odin also has the Rune powers something people seem to not know, which is why Thor had to hang himself to death, twice, because Odin had done so once. I dont see how "over the horizon" is coming from? Where do we get RKT being a lot more powerful than Thor.
Also Odin doesnt really have more impressive feats than Galactus, has more number of feats i will give you that, impressive not really.
@Killemall said:
@Alyssabird said:
Ha! Thor has OF, so Odins Feats count as well. Also, he's not merely a step, he's at least double. So try over the horizon. Also, Odin has more impressive feats than Galactus.
Firstly how does having OF change anything. Odin inhereted OF from Bor as well. Odin also has the Rune powers something people seem to not know, which is why Thor had to hang himself to death, twice, because Odin had done so once. I dont see how "over the horizon" is coming from? Where do we get RKT being a lot more powerful than Thor.
Also Odin doesnt really have more impressive feats than Galactus, has more number of feats i will give you that, impressive not really.
Incorrect on all accounts, except the first.
Beta Ray Bill with sufficient prep time was able to take down Galactus. This is BRB!!! .... What do you think the all seeing RKT would do? Massive curb stomp
@Alyssabird said:
Beta Ray Bill with sufficient prep time was able to take down Galactus. This is BRB!!! .... What do you think the all seeing RKT would do? Massive curb stomp
You realise Galactus is not in the thread, and all BRB did was prevented Galactus from having his dinner :p
Still, if the mere intelligence of Beta Ray Bill could take down Galactus, imagine someone who knows everything, such as RKT fighting Galactus. Please be logical, Galactus can't beat RKT.
Killermall over powers Galactus, and depowers RKT to the point where he's 'just a bit' more powerful than Thor. Which is redundancy, and once you look at the feats and the people Galactus has been pwned and hurt by, the information doesn't stack up in Galactus's favour. Regardless, to each their own.
@Alyssabird said:
Killermall over powers Galactus, and depowers RKT to the point where he's 'just a bit' more powerful than Thor. Which is redundancy, and once you look at the feats and the people Galactus has been pwned and hurt by, the information doesn't stack up in Galactus's favour. Regardless, to each their own.
Firstly its KILL-EM-ALL :p
Secondly i did not say just a bit more powerful than Thor :p
Thirdly, statement was made in regards to fed galactus
Lastly, you sound drunk :p
@Killemall said:
@Alyssabird said:
Killermall over powers Galactus, and depowers RKT to the point where he's 'just a bit' more powerful than Thor. Which is redundancy, and once you look at the feats and the people Galactus has been pwned and hurt by, the information doesn't stack up in Galactus's favour. Regardless, to each their own.
Firstly its KILL-EM-ALL :p
Secondly i did not say just a bit more powerful than Thor :p
Thirdly, statement was made in regards to fed galactus
Lastly, you sound drunk :p
RKT > Galactus
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