All out, no holds barred, fight to the death. Please support your answer with a little explanation. Thank you.
Molecule Man Wearing Infinity Gauntlet VS. The Beyonder
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"Beyonder would still win... give Molecule Man the Heart of the Universe and we may have something here...
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"The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."Are you actually contending that Molecule Man is more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet? Last I heard, the Gauntlet gave nearly total mastery over creation. The Beyonder is an imperfect Cosmic Cube, which the Gauntlet has the edge on by a considerable margin.
"Tevnoba said:People just don't know the old history of neither the Molecule Man nor the Infinity Gems. Molecule Man was so goddam powerful that, in Secret Wars 2, all the Elders of the Universe had to bow their heads down when he walked by them. Granted, the Beyonder can do ANYTHING he wants in THIS reality, BUT, if nerd-turned-god Owen Reece had the Infinity Gems, and mastered them all, then I really think he would've been able to beat the Beyonder. How ? One gem would've made the difference: The Reality Gem ! Owen would've just trapped the Beyonder in another reality where his power would've been negated, and (even if his powers weren't negated), he would've had no way to get back to this reality ever again !!!"The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."Are you actually contending that Molecule Man is more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet? Last I heard, the Gauntlet gave nearly total mastery over creation. The Beyonder is an imperfect Cosmic Cube, which the Gauntlet has the edge on by a considerable margin.
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"Tevnoba said:This is not the horrible retcon versions (as far as I know). This is the originals. And yes, Pre Retcon Owen >>>>>>>>>>Infinity Gauntlet."The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."Are you actually contending that Molecule Man is more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet? Last I heard, the Gauntlet gave nearly total mastery over creation. The Beyonder is an imperfect Cosmic Cube, which the Gauntlet has the edge on by a considerable margin.
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"Illuminarch said:dude precon beyonder fought MM before and owned him like nothing even with IG it's still beyonder>>>>>>>>MM"Tevnoba said:People just don't know the old history of neither the Molecule Man nor the Infinity Gems. Molecule Man was so goddam powerful that, in Secret Wars 2, all the Elders of the Universe had to bow their heads down when he walked by them. Granted, the Beyonder can do ANYTHING he wants in THIS reality, BUT, if nerd-turned-god Owen Reece had the Infinity Gems, and mastered them all, then I really think he would've been able to beat the Beyonder. How ? One gem would've made the difference: The Reality Gem ! Owen would've just trapped the Beyonder in another reality where his power would've been negated, and (even if his powers weren't negated), he would've had no way to get back to this reality ever again !!!""The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."Are you actually contending that Molecule Man is more powerful than the Infinity Gauntlet? Last I heard, the Gauntlet gave nearly total mastery over creation. The Beyonder is an imperfect Cosmic Cube, which the Gauntlet has the edge on by a considerable margin.
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"The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."
Damn REALLY?!!
"Tevnoba said:"The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."Damn REALLY?!!"
well with one finger MM repaired the mutliverse when beyonder got a little mad.
"gunswordfist said:*SPITS OUT RED MOUNTAIN DEW*"Tevnoba said:well with one finger MM repaired the mutliverse when beyonder got a little mad.""The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."Damn REALLY?!!"
gunswordfist said:
"DC_Marvel_1000 said:"gunswordfist said:*SPITS OUT RED MOUNTAIN DEW*""Tevnoba said:well with one finger MM repaired the mutliverse when beyonder got a little mad.""The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting."Damn REALLY?!!"
add in that MM has the power of a bill dimensions well beyonder is made up of infinite.
Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities of Molecule Man, who ... [more]
Illuminarch said: Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities of Molecule ... [more]
DC_Marvel_1000 said: Illuminarch said: Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities ... [more]
DC_Marvel_1000 said: Illuminarch said: Oh, so the power of the Infinity Gems is a retcon, but not the Godlike abilities ... [more]
Adding the Infinity Gauntlet to Owen is like adding a flashlight to the sun - you would not even notice.
ok here is the most comprehensive answer.
1. Beyonder is NOT a being, he is a ENTIRE universe that was UNMANIFEST. Molecule man and even the infinity guantlet are still items and beings WITHIN a universe, so its like saying two pieces of a universe could defeat a entire universe. Its just not possible. Beyonder represented his entire multiverse in entirety. No glove, cosmic cubes or power will change that. The entire universe would have to attack at once and then it would stalemate as all universes are essentially equal in power and being constructed of energy immortal for our purposes.
2. The character The Brothers, unlike Beyonder who is a entire universe represent the yin and yang WITHIN a universe the polarities. Thusly Beyonder would be "stronger" than them as well.
3. The One Above All (TOAA), The Heart of the Universe (HOTU, TOAA's power) as invented by Stan Lee is the entirety of the marvel universe manifest as a fractal representation of the universe, which would make TOAA a even match for Beyonder. However while TOAA is manifest in the entire universe his power is not focused or centralized. Beyonder's is centralized and focused on one point in one individual. So it conceivable that Beyonder would win in a skirmish but would eventually stalemate as both universes can not effectively defeat each as each universe is immortal and can only be reordered or changed in form, frequency or energy type. Much like what happened to Beyonder when he became manifest into a whole universe with planets etc. He never died, he simply changed form.
ok here is the most comprehensive answer.
1. Beyonder is NOT a being, he is a ENTIRE universe that was UNMANIFEST. Molecule man and even the infinity guantlet are still items and beings WITHIN a universe, so its like saying two pieces of a universe could defeat a entire universe. Its just not possible. Beyonder represented his entire multiverse in entirety. No glove, cosmic cubes or power will change that. The entire universe would have to attack at once and then it would stalemate as all universes are essentially equal in power and being constructed of energy immortal for our purposes.
2. The character The Brothers, unlike Beyonder who is a entire universe represent the yin and yang WITHIN a universe the polarities. Thusly Beyonder would be "stronger" than them as well.
3. The One Above All (TOAA), The Heart of the Universe (HOTU, TOAA's power) as invented by Stan Lee is the entirety of the marvel universe manifest as a fractal representation of the universe, which would make TOAA a even match for Beyonder. However while TOAA is manifest in the entire universe his power is not focused or centralized. Beyonder's is centralized and focused on one point in one individual. So it conceivable that Beyonder would win in a skirmish but would eventually stalemate as both universes can not effectively defeat each as each universe is immortal and can only be reordered or changed in form, frequency or energy type. Much like what happened to Beyonder when he became manifest into a whole universe with planets etc. He never died, he simply changed form.
Mad Jim Jaspers is only a part of a single universe. Yet he can plague and kill an entire universe with his powers.
The same can be said of several characters who are universal level or higher.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
I'm confused, what's being argued here? Are we talking about PR Beyonder? Wasn't he right underneath TOAA?
The Current Mutant Inhuman Beyonder is featless. Though in a what if where the Illuminati manage to piss him off he manages to effortlessly destroy the Earth and everything.
Beyonder is a plot device and the pr beyonder is as strong or stronger than toaa beyonder wins with 1 finger
The Infinity Gauntlet would have little difference in this fight. It would be like adding a BB gun to two tanks fighting.
lol best answer ever. xD
If this is PRB we are talking about, he would solo regardless. But HoTU, now that might be a game changer.
this is a huge mismatch.
1. Living Tribunal >>>>Infinity Gauntlet, and Molecule Man >>>>>>>>>Living Tribunal (see scan beneath)
so : Molecule Man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Infinity Gauntlet
therefore IG will add MM nothing more what can add a tiny ant to an elephant to tank an exploding H-bomb
MoleculeMan is the most powerful being in MU.
2. Inifinity gems are part of the very construct of the universe, MoleculeMan already gathered all the power existing in the multiverse and still didn't have enough power to just create Beyonder-proof dome (see scan beneath)
3. Molecule Man compared to Beyonder is like comparing Captain America to Molecule Man, the difference in power is unconceivable, so basically adding IG to MM, is like giving Captain America a 2nd shield to fight Living Tribunal and hoping it will be enough (see scan beneath)
@illuminarch: thank you preach
How can beyonder be stronger than toaa if its said that he is stronger than EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in the marvel universe put together also isn't the living tribunal 2nd in command after toaa ? I don't see how beyonder beats them , can beyonder beat eternity since he is a universe
How can beyonder be stronger than toaa if its said that he is stronger than EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in the marvel universe put together also isn't the living tribunal 2nd in command after toaa ? I don't see how beyonder beats them , can beyonder beat eternity since he is a universe
Beyonder cannot beat TOAA. He loses because TOAA can erase him out of existence if it wanted to, but because TOAA is neutral, it does not.
@kool_chris: eternity is like a bug next to the sun that is the beyonder
@baron_von_santa: More like an atom to a universe
@lowlaville: I'm pretty sure he has not shown any thing he can do with someones soul
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