Molecule Man Vs Vulcan

who would win?????? they r evenly matched im not sure

Not at all. Molecule Man could easily defeat him in ways where Vulcan woud have a defense for.

Molecule Man easily.

Although Vulvan can manipulate all energy fields, to a very high level, Molecule Man controls all matter (including the flesh of Vulcan's body) and all energy. Molecule Man dwarfs even the Silver Surfer in power and should be able to effect planet wide changes.

The scope of his powers should be similar to other cosmic cube entities like Kubik and the Shaper, which puts them in a similar ball park to Galactus.

Actually it is even worse than that.

Not only has the watcher declared MM the strongest being in the universe, but so did eternity. The only ones who exceeded him are/were TOAA, Living Tribunal, Eternity/Infinity, Death, White Crown Phoenix, the Infinity Gauntlet and the Cosmic Cubes (if universal desire was with them).

Molecule Man should win here rather easy

I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought.

Molecule man can control anything down to the molecular level, which in the marvel universe is somehow more precise and powerful than being able to control anything down to the atomic level in the marvel universe.

Korg says:

"I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought."

Molecule man is just below beyonder. Vulcan got layed out by gladiator after beating on a bunch of the weak people of that planet. Trust me your way off. If he really wanted to he'd turn vulcan to toast. Molecule man is a killer who else throws 150 billion tons mountains on a group a heroes?? I heard of a bomb being thrown maybe even a building but 150 billion ton mountain?? Some planets don't even weigh that much lol thats alot of hate.

And yet, all those heroes survived, so that didn't make him a killer. I'm well aware of Molecule Man's abilities as compared to Vulcan's. However when you look at what they've accomplished with their powers in the span of time they've had them, you have to admit Vulcan is much more brutal and ambitious. If Molecule Man really wanted to, he could obviously deconstruct Vulcan on the molecular level or turn him into a block of ice or whatever he wanted. I think the more likely scenario is that Molecule Man attacks Vulcan with less-than-lethal force, and Vulcan retaliates by killing him. Molecule Man is basically a nice guy who's not out to hurt anyone most of the time. Vulcan is a full-grown 15 year old who managed to bring the Shi'ar empire to its knees through the use of his immense powers in a very short period of time. He's a maniacal mass-murdering child in an adult's body. None of this makes him more powerful than his opponent in this fight, but I do think it gives him the edge.

zee crusher says:

"Korg says:

"I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought."

Molecule man is just below beyonder. Vulcan got layed out by gladiator after beating on a bunch of the weak people of that planet. Trust me your way off. If he really wanted to he'd turn vulcan to toast. Molecule man is a killer who else throws 150 billion tons mountains on a group a heroes?? I heard of a bomb being thrown maybe even a building but 150 billion ton mountain?? Some planets don't even weigh that much lol thats alot of hate."

All planets weigh more than 150 billion tons.

What about planetoids?

Dreadnaught says:

"zee crusher says:

"Korg says:

"I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought."

Molecule man is just below beyonder. Vulcan got layed out by gladiator after beating on a bunch of the weak people of that planet. Trust me your way off. If he really wanted to he'd turn vulcan to toast. Molecule man is a killer who else throws 150 billion tons mountains on a group a heroes?? I heard of a bomb being thrown maybe even a building but 150 billion ton mountain?? Some planets don't even weigh that much lol thats alot of hate."

All planets weigh more than 150 billion tons. "

Not the small ones and hollow ones right?

zee crusher says:

"Dreadnaught says:

"zee crusher says:

"Korg says:

"I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought."

Molecule man is just below beyonder. Vulcan got layed out by gladiator after beating on a bunch of the weak people of that planet. Trust me your way off. If he really wanted to he'd turn vulcan to toast. Molecule man is a killer who else throws 150 billion tons mountains on a group a heroes?? I heard of a bomb being thrown maybe even a building but 150 billion ton mountain?? Some planets don't even weigh that much lol thats alot of hate."

All planets weigh more than 150 billion tons. "

Not the small ones and hollow ones right?"

it would be an awfully small planet. more like an asteroid or a comet at that weight.

I'm with Korg on this.

Molecule Man is up there in the power department. So is Vulcan for that matter.

He basically is what Sinister has been stalking the Summer clan for the longest of time for. Vulcan is basically Jean's equivalent in regards to energy manipulation. Meaning there aren't any limits to what he can do in regards to energy in all its varrying forms.

His defeat at Gladiators hand was a cop-out, and do keep in mind that this defeat came after pretty much crossing multiple systems on his own power(sure he had a little rest in between this and figthing the Shi'ar but hardly enough) he took on the Shi'ar fighting force and did enough to warrant them sending their elite, who by the way got their rear's handed to them and beating pretty much all of them some worse than others even killing a few of them before Gladiator took him down. What's worse he did this on his first time facing them and lets face it he doesn't even have that much field-experience in comparison to a single one of them.

He still has no idea what all it is that he can actually do. and is only 15 meaning he still has to come into his powers.

Molecule Man may have experience and powers but I believe he lacks the rawness and ruthlessness that is Vulcan, who models himself after THE Roman Emperor Ceasar But I digress.

MM can do f.e. stuff to Vulcan's skin good for him. Vulcan can stop MM's brain function by disrupting the signals MM neuron's are sending or even melt him from the inside out. My favorite however would be using MM own powers to take him out.

MM uses psionics to manipulate matter or energy, Vulcan can use that very psionic energy use to counter disrupt and quiet possibly even switch it off.

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I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought.

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Molecule man can control anything down to the molecular level, which in the marvel universe is somehow more precise and powerful than being able to control anything down to the atomic level in the marvel universe.

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Vulcan gets stomped.

watch the language please

i don't think MM would need to be ruthless to beat vulcan. He could sense his energy level and just be prepared for the worse. Then after Vulcan expends all his energy, MM would take him to see Doc Sampson so Vulcan could work out his family abandonment issues.

" Reece curbstomps "

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zee crusher says:

"Dreadnaught says:

"zee crusher says:

"Korg says:

"I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought."

Molecule man is just below beyonder. Vulcan got layed out by gladiator after beating on a bunch of the weak people of that planet. Trust me your way off. If he really wanted to he'd turn vulcan to toast. Molecule man is a killer who else throws 150 billion tons mountains on a group a heroes?? I heard of a bomb being thrown maybe even a building but 150 billion ton mountain?? Some planets don't even weigh that much lol thats alot of hate."

All planets weigh more than 150 billion tons. "

Not the small ones and hollow ones right?"

it would be an awfully small planet. more like an asteroid or a comet at that weight.

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I disagree. Sure, Molecule Man has crazy abilities, but he's also a total pushover. He doesn't use his powers to anywhere near his full potential. Vulcan, on the other hand, started killing people by the dozens the first week he regained consciousness. He's a killer and MM isn't. I think MM would hesitate and try to reason with Vulcan, and Vulcan would just tear him apart without much thought.

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owen can control all matter, energy, spacetime, and prbly the physical laws
Gabe has no chance in hell

"Molecule Man still wins here "

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"Molecule Man still wins here "

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