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#1 Posted by King Saturn (224265 posts) - - Show Bio
Can the Molecule Man defeat the Spectre in an all out battle ?

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#2 Posted by Lunacyde (19280 posts) - - Show Bio

Spectre is more BA.....but I think molecule man wins the fight ...perhaps

#3 Posted by King Saturn (224265 posts) - - Show Bio
I aint too sure who wins here... they both have powers on a Universal Scale...
#4 Posted by Lunacyde (19280 posts) - - Show Bio

yes...massive power

#5 Posted by Meteorite (3351 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm... hard....

#6 Posted by Lunacyde (19280 posts) - - Show Bio

very hard

#7 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm

ill go molecule man

#8 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio

In part it would depend on how much backing Spectre has from the Presence.  At full authority - and this being Secret Wars II Owen, I think the battle is a draw.  If Spectre is without full backing and this is MM any time past Secret Wars I, Spectre looses.

#9 Posted by King Saturn (224265 posts) - - Show Bio
Tevnoba said:
"In part it would depend on how much backing Spectre has from the Presence.  At full authority - and this being Secret Wars II Owen, I think the battle is a draw.  If Spectre is without full backing and this is MM any time past Secret Wars I, Spectre looses."
LOL

I was wondering when you would show up...

Goody
#10 Posted by OhTru (1583 posts) - - Show Bio

could Sentry beat Spectre?

#11 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@OhTru said:
" could Sentry beat Spectre? "
Not a chance in hell. Not then, not now, not ever.
#12 Posted by Tevnoba (3494 posts) - - Show Bio
@OhTru said:
" could Sentry beat Spectre? "
I doubt it, seriously.
#13 Posted by Morpheus_ (29873 posts) - - Show Bio

 Stop bumping all these threads. It grows tiresome.

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#14 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5470 posts) - - Show Bio

OMFG a non-Sentry thread in the top 10?
 
Depends on how much juice the Presence is giving the Spectre.

#15 Posted by AtPhantom (14521 posts) - - Show Bio
@CosmicSpiral said:
" OMFG a non-Sentry thread in the top 10?  Depends on how much juice the Presence is giving the Spectre. "
Spectre isn't powered by the Presence, he's depowered by the Presence on occasions. He has his own power not tied to God, but God may chose to limit that power if he sees fit.
 
And no versions of Spectre would lose to Sentry.
#16 Posted by King Saturn (224265 posts) - - Show Bio
@OhTru said:
" could Sentry beat Spectre? "
you gotta be kidding me... this year old thread of mine was bumped up for this ?
#17 Posted by capall (8278 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"@OhTru said:
" could Sentry beat Spectre? "
you gotta be kidding me... this year old thread of mine was bumped up for this ? "

sighs, almost spilled my milk
#18 Posted by BestChanceThor (97 posts) - - Show Bio

well since its been bumped lol. I'm going to go with spectre. 
I dont think that owen's powers will be as effective as they are on other less powerful chars but this is just my imo 
+ it seems that the spectre does worse things to people who have done particularly heinous things and owens been pretty bad.
#19 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5470 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom: Let me requote that.
 
It depends on how much the Spectre is limited by the Presence.
#20 Posted by FLCL1 (9580 posts) - - Show Bio
@OhTru said:
"could Sentry beat Spectre? "

dude.................
#21 Posted by IC3MAN (108 posts) - - Show Bio

mm

#22 Posted by Hoboseid (1022 posts) - - Show Bio

MM should win

#23 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio
@Hoboseid said:
MM should win
Well at least you bumped it to say something meaningful.
#24 Posted by IZZR (4289 posts) - - Show Bio

MM barely, and the guy who wrote the issue of Sentry killing MM needs to die

#25 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

PR Molecule man-Stomps a unbound Spectre. easy peasy lemon squeezy.  
Current MM- gets stomped by any Spectre.
#26 Posted by ManofSteel (115 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends, if Presence wants Spectre to win, he will.

#27 Posted by AssertingValor (5393 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecule man trump................

#28 Edited by tjizz350 (167 posts) - - Show Bio

@IZZR said:

MM barely, and the guy who wrote the issue of Sentry killing MM needs to die

that was terrible i strongly agree as far as this fight i will say stalemate i would love to see it.

#29 Posted by Saren (25694 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecule Man's powers don't work on conceptual abstracts, I heard? Can anyone confirm that?

And this does not need the bump.

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#30 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

Jim Corrigan>>>>>>>Owen Reece.

Spectre for the win.

#31 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecule Man by far.

#32 Posted by The_Mayhem_Theory (1060 posts) - - Show Bio
Molecule Man. Spectre seems too overpowered for my taste.
#33 Posted by Onemoreposter (4065 posts) - - Show Bio

Spectre for sure. The Spectre is beyond the reality MM has power over.

#34 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

@Onemoreposter:

No. Spectre gets beat down by a lot of people. Molecule Man repairs multiverses with a finger and destroys billions of dimensions in a twitch reflex. Sorry Spectre loses on this one.

#35 Posted by Onemoreposter (4065 posts) - - Show Bio

The Spectre is the eternal manifestation of the presence's vengeance. It has faced threats which have no trouble destroying infinite universes or the span of all time from EITHER ends. I'm not quite up on my MM but even if he can overpower the Spectre there's no way he can destory him. The Spectre has possibly infinite potential as he's directly powered by the presence.

#36 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

@Onemoreposter:

Molecule Man faced PR Beyonder and gave him a fight. Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos beat Spectre and Spectre was toyed with by Emperor Joker. PLUS Molecule Man has scans of his feats. Spectre I think has more scans of him having been one upped by someone rather than him showing off his power.

#37 Posted by Saren (25694 posts) - - Show Bio

@heymanjack: Lucifer has never beaten the Spectre. His only interaction with the Spectre was a short conversation in Spectre v3. Not that he can't, he just never has.

This just says Molecule Man. Doesn't specify a version. There are versions of Molecule Man who have lost to the Fantastic Four, versions that have lost to Man-Thing, versions that have lost to Sentry, and so on. None of those versions could beat the Spectre, and at any rate I've been told that Molecule Man's powers don't work on abstracts, for instance he cannot affect Death, and so all his power would mean nothing since the Spectre is an abstract entity itself.

Spectre has plenty of scans of his feats. I have the majority of them.

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#38 Posted by Onemoreposter (4065 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Well said.

#39 Posted by heymanjack (716 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

He is not below Death. Beyonder removed the concept of death so that all things can live forever. He can't reverse what beyonder did because beyonder does not allow death to exist.

#40 Posted by Saren (25694 posts) - - Show Bio

@heymanjack: I never said he was below Death. He can operate on a scale vastly above Death's capabilities. But can he or can he not affect abstracts?

And there's only one version of Molecule Man who could possibly beat Corrigan's Spectre. There are several others who would die quickly, so I'm not sure why you're going with the Secret Wars version when the OP doesn't specify.

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#41 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Thor's hammmer said:
PR Molecule man-Stomps a unbound Spectre. easy peasy lemon squeezy.  Current MM- gets stomped by any Spectre.
#42 Posted by Bo88gdan (4405 posts) - - Show Bio

MM wins i think

#43 Posted by Simon_the_digger (2996 posts) - - Show Bio

PR Molecule-Man wins.

#44 Posted by blackadamFTW (7867 posts) - - Show Bio

@heymanjack said:

@Onemoreposter:

Molecule Man faced PR Beyonder and gave him a fight. Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos beat Spectre and Spectre was toyed with by Emperor Joker. PLUS Molecule Man has scans of his feats. Spectre I think has more scans of him having been one upped by someone rather than him showing off his power.

Apparently that didn't happen, but if it did, that's because Lucifer Morningstar and Michael Demiurgos are the sons of God. While Spectre is just kind of an employee, haha

If Spectre's at his full potential, and so is Molecule Man, its a good fight and could go either way.

If its the current versions of both, Spectre would probably win.

#45 Posted by clemj (817 posts) - - Show Bio
@FLCL1: well not at all
#46 Posted by eternityx (2782 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecule Man stomps.

#47 Edited by The_Titan_Lord (5818 posts) - - Show Bio

MM

#48 Posted by lol (5167 posts) - - Show Bio

@saren said:

@heymanjack: I never said he was below Death. He can operate on a scale vastly above Death's capabilities. But can he or can he not affect abstracts?

And there's only one version of Molecule Man who could possibly beat Corrigan's Spectre. There are several others who would die quickly, so I'm not sure why you're going with the Secret Wars version when the OP doesn't specify.

So basically Spectre stomps any version of MM since his powers doesn't affect him?

#49 Edited by Hulkman123 (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

Molecule Man stomps

#50 Edited by ElmoHump (1333 posts) - - Show Bio

Did you guys really bump after a month..