Majestic starts out on an open field, and is healed after every round. Usual equipment for both, as well as no prep time for Majestic or any of his opponents. (In-Character) Morals are on for everybody. Can he clear it? Or, how far can he go?
Round 1: Superboy and Wonder Girl Round 2: Guy Gardner and John Stewart Round 3: Power Girl and Supergirl Round 4: Martian Manhunter Round 5: Saint Walker and Hal Jordan Round 6: Superman and Wonder Woman Round 7: Darkseid Round 8: Zoom(no morals for either)
@industrious: i dont think he can get past darksied or zoom as zooms far to fast for him and darksied only really needs to lay 1 hit with omega beams as mr majestics not protected from the source
" @industrious: Did u really give Zoom No morals? "
I see what you did there..
Anyway, in a way, Zoom does have morals. If he realizes that the one he's fighting is a hero, he might hold back. Sounds stupid, but his goal was always to 'make heroes better'. I don't remember him actually killing a hero.
I feel that if this is in order, Round 5 should be Round 6. Anyway, he loses at Martian Manhunter, Saint Walker (I LOVE that name, I'm changing my last name to Walker and naming my son Saint) and Hal Jordan or Zoom.
If he has telepathy protection I'm unaware of, he could beat MM. I don't think he gets through SW&HJ. A GL's power increases by twofold when in the presence of a BL. Seeing as Hal is already Superman level to begin with.. He's not beating Zoom. At least not without prep.
"@industrious: i dont think he can get past darksied or zoom as zooms far to fast for him and darksied only really needs to lay 1 hit with omega beams as mr majestics not protected from the source "
The only person protected by the source is darkseid himself,and even that may not be the case after final crisis. no one is protected by the source.
"@industrious: i dont think he can get past darksied or zoom as zooms far to fast for him and darksied only really needs to lay 1 hit with omega beams as mr majestics not protected from the source "
The only person protected by the source is darkseid himself,and even that may not be the case after final crisis. no one is protected by the source. "
He has his first spot of trouble at 4 and I think that could go either way (I already did a whole thread on that though). If he clears it 5 will be hard but he should do it. Same story for 6 and he'd have to be at the top of his game to make it out of that one. I imagine he'd have switched into serious warlord mode once he realized this was going to be a series of challenges so he would be at the top of his game by 6. 7 is just as hard as 6, but given DS's track record, I think Maj could eventually take it. He wouldn't beat Zoom with no morals. I always have to ask though, can Majestic take things from his enemies here? Walking out of the second fight with a couple rings would make subsequent fights easier. Add another green ring and a blue one to that and he'd be hella powerful. And WW's lasso would be nice but probably just for show at that point. Still though, without prep or morals for Zoom, Maj still isn't taking him.
@Afterglow: I know zoom has morals. Which is why i asked why he gave him NO Morals, idc who you are, you're not beating zoom with no morals. He whips everyones ass by holding back and trying to make them bettter. Imagine if he really wanted to kill you.
" @Afterglow: I know zoom has morals. Which is why i asked why he gave him NO Morals, idc who you are, you're not beating zoom with no morals. He whips everyones ass by holding back and trying to make them bettter. Imagine if he really wanted to kill you.
You can beat Zoom if he's actually trying to kill you. You just need to not play to his strengths. I can name a few who can beat Zoom without morals. Wondering if Majestic is one of them.
" @Afterglow: I know zoom has morals. Which is why i asked why he gave him NO Morals, idc who you are, you're not beating zoom with no morals. He whips everyones ass by holding back and trying to make them bettter. Imagine if he really wanted to kill you.
You can beat Zoom if he's actually trying to kill you. You just need to not play to his strengths. I can name a few who can beat Zoom without morals. Wondering if Majestic is one of them. "
He's not. Who can u name that can beat Zoom with no Morals?
" @Afterglow: I know zoom has morals. Which is why i asked why he gave him NO Morals, idc who you are, you're not beating zoom with no morals. He whips everyones ass by holding back and trying to make them bettter. Imagine if he really wanted to kill you.
You can beat Zoom if he's actually trying to kill you. You just need to not play to his strengths. I can name a few who can beat Zoom without morals. Wondering if Majestic is one of them. "
He's not. Who can u name that can beat Zoom with no Morals? "
Without going into the more high-end characters: Cloak. Classic Deadman. Randall Dowling. Shek Chi-Wai.
@industrious: You seem to be going for intangible characters but Majestic does not have a default intangible state so he could be hit where most of these characters can't. And even then I'm not sure these 4 could do it. The phantom cop might not be hittable but Zoom won't be tagged by bullets so there's no win there. I'm not sure what you're thinking of with Dowling, but he can be hit right off the bat and unless I'm forgetting something, he's not in any position to avoid hits from Zoom since Zoom could have killed him before Dowling is consciously aware of his presence. I don't know about Cloak's intangibility, but if he isn't intangible by default, Zoom could take him down faster than he could turn intangible, and even if he couldn't, Cloak would have a hard time catching Zoom if he didn't want to be caught. Deadman might be able to since not only is he intangible by default but he's invisible IIRC so Zoom won't know where's he's coming from when he tries to take over his body. Still though, that's assuming Zoom is staying in one place. All he'd have to do is keep moving and Deadman wouldn't catch him. Intangibility may allow these characters to not be hit and actually have time to perform an action, but if their action isn't one that allows them to hit Zoom, then it doesn't really matter. Majestic's problem is the reverse. He's more than capable of killing Zoom, but getting a hand on him would be impossible (without prep or Zoom having morals) and Zoom would have all the time in the world to attack Maj before he could start his own attack anyway.
Cloak is apparently either intangible or invisible at one time or another. His portrayal varies. Zoom gets to close to him either way, and he gets sucked into the man's cloak. Dowling's power is that anyone in his vicinity is him. Zoom gets too close(which he has to), and Dowling wins by default. Phantom Cop has been invisible before as well. With him, Zoom would eventually get bored, slow down to try to draw them out, and let his guard down.
I suppose I could possibly add Winter to the list; Zoom initiates his barrage, Winter absorbs an ungodly amount of energy, and then releases it in a wide arc. Maybe. I'm not sure.
As for Majestic, I was hoping he'd be able to get something done quickly enough to either counter Zoom or get away.
" Cloak is apparently either intangible or invisible at one time or another. His portrayal varies. Zoom gets to close to him either way, and he gets sucked into the man's cloak.Dowling's power is that anyone in his vicinity is him. Zoom gets too close(which he has to), and Dowling wins by default. Phantom Cop has been invisible before as well. With him, Zoom would eventually get bored, slow down to try to draw them out, and let his guard down. I suppose I could possibly add Winter to the list; Zoom initiates his barrage, Winter absorbs an ungodly amount of energy, and then releases it in a wide arc. Maybe. I'm not sure. As for Majestic, I was hoping he'd be able to get something done quickly enough to either counter Zoom or get away. "
If the Speed of 3 flashes in 1 cannot. What makes you think He's fast enough 2? Given he is very smart. His speed is irrelevant.
" @TheFlash4740: You forget Mr majestic, is the smartest being in the wildstorm universe "
mmmm no i Didnt. Which is why i said he was very smart. Now given i didnt say Genius, but you get the point. He could be The smartest man in comics, Doesnt really matter if you dont have enough time to think to do anything.
" Cloak is apparently either intangible or invisible at one time or another. His portrayal varies. Zoom gets to close to him either way, and he gets sucked into the man's cloak.Dowling's power is that anyone in his vicinity is him. Zoom gets too close(which he has to), and Dowling wins by default. Phantom Cop has been invisible before as well. With him, Zoom would eventually get bored, slow down to try to draw them out, and let his guard down. I suppose I could possibly add Winter to the list; Zoom initiates his barrage, Winter absorbs an ungodly amount of energy, and then releases it in a wide arc. Maybe. I'm not sure. As for Majestic, I was hoping he'd be able to get something done quickly enough to either counter Zoom or get away. "
I did a quick check and it appears cloak is intangible by default, but that still doesn't give him a win. Cloak winning depends entirely on Zoom running into him and he doesn't have to. Even if he does, I don't think Cloak is constantly absorbing whole beings, so unless he chooses to absorb Zoom (which he wouldn't be fast enough to do) Zoom wouldn't get sucked in. I know Dowling can stretch his mind, but I don't know if it's instant. The fact that it's described as him stretching his mind makes me think of it as a volitional act, not an unconscious one, so Zoom could take him down before he chose to do that (granted, I haven't read Planetary in quite some time so I don't know if that's actually how he worked). Even if he did manage to get his mind into Zoom, would he have instantly (really, it would have to be instant, the speedsters have been clocked at faster than thought at times and Zoom blows them all out of the water because of his time manipulation) taken control of him or would he have to exert that control (which would again leave him open to getting killed before he acted)? Additionally, Zoom need not get close. His sonic snaps are area affects and he could also just throw something from a distance. The Phantom Cop has the same issue as Deadman. He could do it simply because Zoom can't ever hit him, but for him to do it Zoom basically has to stop fighting, in which case he's not really being beaten in a fight anymore. Winter couldn't do it. Zoom would beat him down harder than the High did or just break his neck faster than he can react. And as I said before, your strategies are require something Majestic doesn't have, time to act (which you're trying to get through intangibility). Majestic won't have that in a straight fight. He doesn't have intangibility or any sort of aura of effect. He'd only get a chance to act with prep or Zoom being in character.
"I can make you a better hero". Im sure you know Zooms' MO before blatently posting scans of him. He goes around beating superheros up tryuing to make them better. Wally West more than anyone (Him being his arch nemesis and all). He WANTS The heros to beat him, if he wanted to kill the JLA, he would do so in a heartbeat. Anyone who hits Zoom, is writers making PIS.
I have a scan of Him beating Bats Supes and WW at the same time to refute that too, he wasnt trying to kill them, just get his message across. He wants WW to be better. It obviously worked.
" @Afterglow: I know zoom has morals. Which is why i asked why he gave him NO Morals, idc who you are, you're not beating zoom with no morals. He whips everyones ass by holding back and trying to make them bettter. Imagine if he really wanted to kill you. "
True, true.
@industrious said:
" I know he has a good deal of psychic ability, though.
EDIT: As for the Lanterns...
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Jordan has already programmed his ring to protect against removal.
@Afterglow: Does he have his hand protected against removal? Majestic carries swords capable of cutting pretty much anything (not even counting the two swords he has that actually cut through anything).
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