They fight in the above photo's environment and no prep, standard gear.
Mister Fantastic vs Silver Samurai
I'm inclined to say Silver Samurai would win.
I know this is an old comment but he wouldn't. He can't hurt reed.
@jashro44: Doesn't he have the ability to cut through anything except adamantium? Doesn't he supercharge his sword with kinetic energy or something? Not to mention he's a really good swordsman. With no prep, how would Reed win?
@jashro44: Doesn't he have the ability to cut through anything except adamantium? Doesn't he supercharge his sword with kinetic energy or something? Not to mention he's a really good swordsman. With no prep, how would Reed win?
Wolverine himself has failed to cut Reed.
There is another scan floating around of wolverine failing to cut reed. Harda won't do much better.
I'm inclined to say Silver Samurai would win.
I know this is an old comment but he wouldn't. He can't hurt reed.
Are you aware Silver Samurai is not just using some standard katana? He focuses tachyon particles through it, basically like a beam weapon. He can and has also discharged this energy in other ways. While Reed can deflect most standard blades he doesn't deflect energy ones that I am aware of. He will make a difficult target but SS is one of the most formidable close combat specialists in the Marvel universe. Reed's standard "go-to" attack is to wrap around his opponent. this is potentially a fatal move as SS can charge his armor just like his blade.
I'm inclined to say Silver Samurai would win.
I know this is an old comment but he wouldn't. He can't hurt reed.
Are you aware Silver Samurai is not just using some standard katana? He focuses tachyon particles through it, basically like a beam weapon. He can and has also discharged this energy in other ways. While Reed can deflect most standard blades he doesn't deflect energy ones that I am aware of. He will make a difficult target but SS is one of the most formidable close combat specialists in the Marvel universe. Reed's standard "go-to" attack is to wrap around his opponent. this is potentially a fatal move as SS can charge his armor just like his blade.
All the tachyon field does is make hardas blade really sharp. It doesn't burn or anything like that to my knowledge. His blade should be no more effective than wolverines claws unless I'm missing something.
I'm inclined to say Silver Samurai would win.
I know this is an old comment but he wouldn't. He can't hurt reed.
Are you aware Silver Samurai is not just using some standard katana? He focuses tachyon particles through it, basically like a beam weapon. He can and has also discharged this energy in other ways. While Reed can deflect most standard blades he doesn't deflect energy ones that I am aware of. He will make a difficult target but SS is one of the most formidable close combat specialists in the Marvel universe. Reed's standard "go-to" attack is to wrap around his opponent. this is potentially a fatal move as SS can charge his armor just like his blade.
All the tachyon field does is make hardas blade really sharp. It doesn't burn or anything like that to my knowledge. His blade should be no more effective than wolverines claws unless I'm missing something.
I think you are assuming Reed is invulnerable here. He can be cut by blades though he is mildly resilient. SS can cut anything but adamantium. It's not the sword that is cutting either, it's the tachyon field.
@dhumraketu: I'm not assuming anything. Wolverine couldn't cut reed. He can stretch to accommodate for silver samurais stabs. Scans have already been posted.... And again thats not the only time reed tanked wolverine claws.
Silver samurai cannot win.
I'm inclined to say Silver Samurai would win.
I know this is an old comment but he wouldn't. He can't hurt reed.
Are you aware Silver Samurai is not just using some standard katana? He focuses tachyon particles through it, basically like a beam weapon. He can and has also discharged this energy in other ways. While Reed can deflect most standard blades he doesn't deflect energy ones that I am aware of. He will make a difficult target but SS is one of the most formidable close combat specialists in the Marvel universe. Reed's standard "go-to" attack is to wrap around his opponent. this is potentially a fatal move as SS can charge his armor just like his blade.
All the tachyon field does is make hardas blade really sharp. It doesn't burn or anything like that to my knowledge. His blade should be no more effective than wolverines claws unless I'm missing something.
I think you are assuming Reed is invulnerable here. He can be cut by blades though he is mildly resilient. SS can cut anything but adamantium. It's not the sword that is cutting either, it's the tachyon field.
He literally could not be damaged by the sharpest and most durable metal in the Marvel Universe, Jashro isn't assuming anything.
@dhumraketu: I'm not assuming anything. Wolverine couldn't cut reed. He can stretch to accommodate for silver samurais stabs. Scans have already been posted.... And again thats not the only time reed tanked wolverine claws.
Silver samurai cannot win.
Okay I can see where the disconnect here is. The tachyon field cannot cut adamantium because adamantium is specifically immune to alterations of it's molecular stability. Tachyon fields like SS's do damage (theoretically) through destabilizing the matter which they come into contact with. Reed is not immune to any sort of matter destabilization as far as I know so he will get sliced up.
Sorry, should have explained that the first time.
@dhumraketu: I'm not assuming anything. Wolverine couldn't cut reed. He can stretch to accommodate for silver samurais stabs. Scans have already been posted.... And again thats not the only time reed tanked wolverine claws.
Silver samurai cannot win.
Okay I can see where the disconnect here is. The tachyon field cannot cut adamantium because adamantium is specifically immune to alterations of it's molecular stability. Tachyon fields like SS's do damage (theoretically) through destabilizing the matter which they come into contact with. Reed is not immune to any sort of matter destabilization as far as I know so he will get sliced up.
Sorry, should have explained that the first time.
Alright I just looked into Hardas handbook and I see what your saying. Fair point.
@dhumraketu: I'm not assuming anything. Wolverine couldn't cut reed. He can stretch to accommodate for silver samurais stabs. Scans have already been posted.... And again thats not the only time reed tanked wolverine claws.
Silver samurai cannot win.
Okay I can see where the disconnect here is. The tachyon field cannot cut adamantium because adamantium is specifically immune to alterations of it's molecular stability. Tachyon fields like SS's do damage (theoretically) through destabilizing the matter which they come into contact with. Reed is not immune to any sort of matter destabilization as far as I know so he will get sliced up.
Sorry, should have explained that the first time.
Alright I just looked into Hardas handbook and I see what your saying. Fair point.
Yeah I definitely should have explained it better from the get go. He's one of those characters we all know, but he's not exactly iterated on like Reed. Interestingly I know Reed has been cut by blades before and was unaware Wolverine hadn't been able to cut him. After doing some research I'm guessing I am either remembering wrong or it was some sort of oddity.
EDIT: I would add that if Reed put half his brain power into learning to fight better then he stands a good chance. His offensive potential is very untapped, but then I suppose that has always been a point of his character.
@dhumraketu: I just noticed you only have 26 posts. Are you new? If so than welcome to the site!
@jashro44: Not too familiar with Reed just know the basic knowledge .... How come he can't be cut ? Exactly what does he do ?
@jashro44: Not too familiar with Reed just know the basic knowledge .... How come he can't be cut ? Exactly what does he do ?
As he's being stabbed he stretches his body and expands it. He basically moves with the stab to the point where the blade doesn't penetrate him.
@jashro44: Not too familiar with Reed just know the basic knowledge .... How come he can't be cut ? Exactly what does he do ?
As he's being stabbed he stretches his body and expands it. He basically moves with the stab to the point where the blade doesn't penetrate him.
ohh okay, so does it work the same way with bullets?
@dhumraketu: I just noticed you only have 26 posts. Are you new? If so than welcome to the site!
Yup, and thank you. I actually have perused the site many times before but I have been working from home all week so I get to sneak in and have some fun. You would think preparing litigation would make me not want to argue more but there is a certain fun to doing it when it isn't involving people ruining the lives of others, well not real people at least.
@dhumraketu: No problem.
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