Mirror Master vs Dr. Doom - Battles

#1 Posted by zombie flash (203 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

vs

They are fighting in a mall and neither one has prep time

#2 Posted by Fortanono (4890 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Dr. Doom. Spite.

#3 Posted by zombie flash (203 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Fortanono:
@Fortanono said:

"Dr. Doom. Spite. "

dude mirror master easily he could just go into dooms armor then turn him to glass

#4 Posted by Zoom (14638 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Morals on: Doctor Doom. Mirror Master likes playing with his food and he wouldn't know Doom has magic.

Morals off: Mirror Master turns Doom into glass.

#5 Posted by zombie flash (203 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Zoom:

Doom has Magic? i did not know that no magic for doom he has all his science though

#6 Edited by Zoom (14638 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo.

Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.

#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@Zoom said:

Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.

Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom

#8 Posted by ChaosBlazer (3930 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom

very casual bump there, lol

#9 Posted by Baldy (5021 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom

Loki isn't human.

#10 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Mirror Master wins this one, without prep Doom wouldn't know what's going on.

#11 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@ChaosBlazer said:

@jeanroygrant said:
@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom
very casual bump there, lol

Lol.

@Baldy said:

@jeanroygrant said:
@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom
Loki isn't human.

Haha, just realized.

#12 Posted by loadofmilark (195 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

dr doom goes on holiday to the mirror world or whatever it's called

#13 Edited by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Turning Doom into glass won't help since he can't turn Doom's will into glass. Even if Doom's auto shields don't protect or reflect the Mirror ray. Doom's will power will just will himself back. There's no stopping him. Mirror Master has no chance.

#14 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom

No he's not because Loki doesn't use conjuring magic. Therefore Doom is more powerful and better in every other way. What if Doom summons the power of Cyttorak or the Trinity of Ashes? What's Loki going to do? Nothing.... If Loki is far below Mephisto and Dormammu, he won't stand a chance against Doom who will just conjure powers up from every deity in existence.

#15 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@jeanroygrant said:
@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom
No he's not because Loki doesn't use conjuring magic. Therefore Doom is more powerful and better in every other way. What if Doom summons the power of Cyttorak or the Trinity of Ashes? What's Loki going to do? Nothing.... If Loki is far below Mephisto and Dormammu, he won't stand a chance against Doom who will just conjure powers up from every deity in existence.

Why does everything you say have to be with Juggernaut, or Cyttorak. So your saying Dr.Doom is a more powerful than Loki? I'm not even going to debate this, because it'snot a debate Loki is better than Dr.Doom in all parts. I swear i remember Loki beating Classic Dr.Strange, Silver Surfer before. Dr.Doom is in over his head, last time i remember he had trouble with Iron Man lol.

#16 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom
No he's not because Loki doesn't use conjuring magic. Therefore Doom is more powerful and better in every other way. What if Doom summons the power of Cyttorak or the Trinity of Ashes? What's Loki going to do? Nothing.... If Loki is far below Mephisto and Dormammu, he won't stand a chance against Doom who will just conjure powers up from every deity in existence.
Why does everything you say have to be with Juggernaut, or Cyttorak. So your saying Dr.Doom is a more powerful than Loki? I'm not even going to debate this, because it'snot a debate Loki is better than Dr.Doom in all parts. I swear i remember Loki beating Classic Dr.Strange, Silver Surfer before. Dr.Doom is in over his head, last time i remember he had trouble with Iron Man lol.

I'm not saying Doom is MORE POWERFUL.

I'm saying DOOM HAS """"CONJURING""""" POWERS. He can Conjure power from others allowing Doom's own power to exceed over Loki's.

Loki doesn't conjure powers.... All Loki does is channel his own powers to his spells. this way of using magic is not the same thing as Conjuring Magic.

#17 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@jeanroygrant said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom
No he's not because Loki doesn't use conjuring magic. Therefore Doom is more powerful and better in every other way. What if Doom summons the power of Cyttorak or the Trinity of Ashes? What's Loki going to do? Nothing.... If Loki is far below Mephisto and Dormammu, he won't stand a chance against Doom who will just conjure powers up from every deity in existence.
Why does everything you say have to be with Juggernaut, or Cyttorak. So your saying Dr.Doom is a more powerful than Loki? I'm not even going to debate this, because it'snot a debate Loki is better than Dr.Doom in all parts. I swear i remember Loki beating Classic Dr.Strange, Silver Surfer before. Dr.Doom is in over his head, last time i remember he had trouble with Iron Man lol.
I'm not saying Doom is MORE POWERFUL.
I'm saying DOOM HAS """"CONJURING""""" POWERS. He can Conjure power from others allowing Doom's own power to exceed over Loki's.
Loki doesn't conjure powers.... All Loki does is channel his own powers to his spells. this way of using magic is not the same thing as Conjuring Magic.

And Loki can't?

#18 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Why does everything you say have to be with Juggernaut, or Cyttorak

This has nothing to do with Juggernaut. However, Dr. Doom is practitioner of Cyttorak. You didn't know?

#19 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
@jeanroygrant said:
@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom
No he's not because Loki doesn't use conjuring magic. Therefore Doom is more powerful and better in every other way. What if Doom summons the power of Cyttorak or the Trinity of Ashes? What's Loki going to do? Nothing.... If Loki is far below Mephisto and Dormammu, he won't stand a chance against Doom who will just conjure powers up from every deity in existence.
Why does everything you say have to be with Juggernaut, or Cyttorak. So your saying Dr.Doom is a more powerful than Loki? I'm not even going to debate this, because it'snot a debate Loki is better than Dr.Doom in all parts. I swear i remember Loki beating Classic Dr.Strange, Silver Surfer before. Dr.Doom is in over his head, last time i remember he had trouble with Iron Man lol.
I'm not saying Doom is MORE POWERFUL.
I'm saying DOOM HAS """"CONJURING""""" POWERS. He can Conjure power from others allowing Doom's own power to exceed over Loki's.
Loki doesn't conjure powers.... All Loki does is channel his own powers to his spells. this way of using magic is not the same thing as Conjuring Magic.
And Loki can't?

Never in history has Loki asked or invoked another God to grant him more power.

#20 Posted by YoungJustice (5737 posts) - 9 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

Nick . Where are you.

#21 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 9 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

@jeanroygrant said:
Why does everything you say have to be with Juggernaut, or Cyttorak
This has nothing to do with Juggernaut. However, Dr. Doom is practitioner of Cyttorak. You didn't know?

Never said it does, and when since.

#22 Posted by CitizenBane (20286 posts) - 9 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

Mirror Master.

Online

#23 Posted by Docnick (10637 posts) - 9 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

Morals on: Dr. Doom. Morals Off: Mirror Master.

#24 Posted by 7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning (3575 posts) - 9 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:
@jeanroygrant said:
Why does everything you say have to be with Juggernaut, or Cyttorak
This has nothing to do with Juggernaut. However, Dr. Doom is practitioner of Cyttorak. You didn't know?
Never said it does, and when since.

#25 Posted by TDK_1997 (10075 posts) - 9 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Mirror Master.

#26 Posted by JonSmith (2571 posts) - 9 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

#27 Posted by Killemall (13946 posts) - 9 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

@7am_Waking_Up_In_The_Morning said:

Turning Doom into glass won't help since he can't turn Doom's will into glass. Even if Doom's auto shields don't protect or reflect the Mirror ray. Doom's will power will just will himself back. There's no stopping him. Mirror Master has no chance.

Why is Doom's shield any important? His entire armor is reflective, so Mirror Master can kill him from inside his armor.

Online

#28 Posted by XiiX (2447 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@Zoom said:

Morals on: Doctor Doom. Mirror Master likes playing with his food and he wouldn't know Doom has magic. Morals off: Mirror Master turns Doom into glass.

#29 Posted by nickzambuto (7884 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@YoungJustice said:

Nick . Where are you.

Yo.

#30 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (2882 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Doom is always the answer.

#31 Posted by dondave (8893 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Morals on: Doctor Doom. Mirror Master likes playing with his food and he wouldn't know Doom has magic. Morals off: Mirror Master turns Doom into glass.

#32 Posted by YoungJustice (5737 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@YoungJustice said:
Nick . Where are you.
Yo.

Not you you silly little troll :P

#33 Edited by CadenceV2 (10993 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

Dr. Doom should win this. I see the argument his armour is reflective. Well I never seen the inside of his Armour. I do believe its flat Gray or Flat Black. Also would Mirror Powers work on a guy with "Magic" Shielding, Science Shielding, and Psy Shielding at all time?

Seriosuly saying MM who is a one trick pony and cant beat Flash at all vs a Man who took Silver Surfers powers, Galactus powers, and even Pre Retcon Beyonders Powers seems silly. This guy on avergae duels Mephisto once a year for the longest time, gets one over the F4 every now and then, and outclasses Iron Man and the Might Avengers not too long ago is a beast.

#34 Posted by Esquire (3327 posts) - 6 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2

Weeeeel...Doctor Doom also has eyes, sooo...

Also, Mirror Master is far from a one trick pony. He has duplication, teleportation across any reflective surface, can bring in mirror copies to fight for him, can transmute, can turn people inside out... With prep, Doom can probably take him. Random encounter? I see MM as too fast and too versatile.

#35 Posted by CadenceV2 (10993 posts) - 6 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

@Esquire: Hes a one trick pony. Show me a Scan where he attacks someone of Dooms level and manages to get thru Magic and I will be impress.

#36 Posted by jobbernos (1372 posts) - 6 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

mm effortlessly.

#37 Posted by Dextersinister (3091 posts) - 6 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Esquire: Hes a one trick pony. Show me a Scan where he attacks someone of Dooms level and manages to get thru Magic and I will be impress.

The idea that Doom will have protection against such a specific and unorthodox attack is highly unlikely considering what has hit him before.

Mirror Master.

#38 Posted by Esquire (3327 posts) - 6 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@Esquire: Hes a one trick pony. Show me a Scan where he attacks someone of Dooms level and manages to get thru Magic and I will be impress.

BFR is legal. Mirror Dimension in an instant. How's Doom countering that?

Or how about you show me Doom countering Transmutation? Or countering someone turning him inside out?

Show me a scan that indicates Doom's magic will help him against someone who can do even one of the things Mirror Master can do, and we'll talk. Right now, Mirror Master has no trouble whatsoever.

#39 Posted by Quartermaim (465 posts) - 6 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Zoom said:
Doom is about the third most powerful human mage on marvel earth after Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo. Really, its his magic that would allow him to catch McCulloch. Even his considerable tech won't be able to pull Mirror Master from another dimension.
Actually Loki is better than Dr.Doom

True but Loki isn't human.

#40 Posted by Quartermaim (465 posts) - 6 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

I am a fan of Doom but in a random no prep fight most likely Mirror Master would win.

Its possible Doom could mind swap but I that as a last resort. I don't think he could do that if turned to glass but I wouldn't put it against him.

#41 Posted by CadenceV2 (10993 posts) - 6 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

@Esquire said:

@CadenceV2 said:
@Esquire: Hes a one trick pony. Show me a Scan where he attacks someone of Dooms level and manages to get thru Magic and I will be impress.
BFR is legal. Mirror Dimension in an instant. How's Doom countering that?
Or how about you show me Doom countering Transmutation? Or countering someone turning him inside out?
Show me a scan that indicates Doom's magic will help him against someone who can do even one of the things Mirror Master can do, and we'll talk. Right now, Mirror Master has no trouble whatsoever.

I know Doom has countered Transmutation before like he did from Beyonder. As for MM "science" by passing Dooms "Magic" defenses I call BS. Well agree to disagree there since no one with Science of MM ever tried to on Magic of Doom and vice versa.

The only Legit way is BFR it would seem. Even then I wonder what Mirror Master will do if he cant ever return to the Mirror Dimension due to Doom killing him with a Army of Darkness?

#42 Posted by XiiX (2447 posts) - 5 months, 5 days ago - Show Bio

*Bump