Minato Namikaze vs Whitebeard

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Minato starts in Bijuu Mode. Minato and Edward are both in character. They fight at Marineford to the death. Minato is not allowed Edo regeneration and the starting distance is 100 feet.

Who wins?

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Namikaze.

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@shiryu said:

@thatguywithheadphones: So WB has no chance, huh?

Nah he has a chance. I just think Namikaze would win due to his speed and Edward's lack of durability.

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Namikaze wins via blitz.

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@sophia89: I'd still take Jiraiya or Oro either both of them. They're not as powerful, but they will always be the original badass shinobi to me. Besides Hiruzen, of course.

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@shiryu said:

@thatguywithheadphones: So WB has no chance, huh?

Nah he has a chance. I just think Namikaze would win due to his speed and Edward's lack of durability.

While Minato has the speed advantage, and should win in this battle, what do you mean about Edward's lack of durability?

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#11  Edited By Scandy

@thatguywithheadphones:

Lol at WB having low durability.

And please dont bring up fodder swords and bullets, that has been debunked so many times its not funny.

http://www.animevice.com/one-piece/10-55/one-piece-durability-misconception-weaponry-and-haki/97-347598/

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/one-piece-vs-discussion-thread-power-strengths-abilities-etc-291098/102

#2039

On-topic:Namikaze wins with a BB.

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Do they have knowledge on each other?

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@kingh: No. Random encounter.

Can you guys answer a question for me: did Kakashi lose his Sharingan? I noticed Obito has both MS now.

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@scandy said:

@thatguywithheadphones:

Lol at WB having low durability.

And please dont bring up fodder swords and bullets, that has been debunked so many times its not funny.

http://www.animevice.com/one-piece/10-55/one-piece-durability-misconception-weaponry-and-haki/97-347598/

http://lounge.moviecodec.com/vs-general/one-piece-vs-discussion-thread-power-strengths-abilities-etc-291098/102

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On-topic:Namikaze wins with a BB.

The only thing he tanked that wasn't exactly what you just said was akainu's magma punch. Otherwise, thats what he died to. Well then again he did take quite the amount of those.

He took about 267 sword wounds, 152 gunshot wounds, 46 wounds from cannonballs, and got half of his face blasted off, resulting in 465 injuries in total. In additon, Whitebeard was also on the receiving end of Akainu's two magma blasts. And even after taking so much damage in his already weakened state, he died standing, an impressive feat when compared to other characters. So yeah his durability is great but his stamina is horrible in comparison to other characters(its great in consideration of the condition he was in but otherwise its lacking in comparison to the other characters)

Nami-kaze wins with superior agility and speed, and versatility.

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The Yellow Flash

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The Yellow (not as fast) Flash wins.

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#18  Edited By Scandy

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......Did you bother reading any of the pages I posted?

He also got lasered by Kizaru and was on life support before the battle.

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@shiryu: oh ok minato wins then. If whitebeard had knowledge he would be able to easily track his movements. Since he can effectively one shot minato.

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@kingh: What if speed was equalized?

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@scandy said:

@deathhero61:

......Did you bother reading any of the pages I posted?

He also got lasered by Kizaru and was on life support before the battle.

Nobody cares about how physically strong whitebeard is, and i know all of WB's abilities. WB lacks the stamina to constantly take attacks from minato, especially if minato is far faster than him.(if he can get tagged by bullets, canon fire, and fodder marine members, i can assure you minato who is the fastest ninja in the naruto universe can tag him.

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@deathhero61:

I already said that Minato wins.

As for the rest, you have no idea what you're talking about lmao.

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@scandy said:

@deathhero61:

I already said that Minato wins.

As for the rest, you have no idea what you're talking about lmao.

Great.

Fine don't care.

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@deathhero61: Whitebeards stamina is insane........ Most of the time whitebeard didn't bother to move lol. We know whitebeard is way faster than that since he blitzed akainu lol.

But anyway minato wins

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@kingh said:

@deathhero61: Whitebeards stamina is insane........ Most of the time whitebeard didn't bother to move lol. We know whitebeard is way faster than that since he blitzed akainu lol.

But anyway minato wins

Considering what he tanked i beg to differ, its either WB's durability sucks or his stamina sucks. Both cases are a bad thing. And akainu doesn't have speed feats so irrelevant.

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Shirohige crushes him with a quake. If an almost dead Whitebeard can severely damage Akainu, I don't see why a healthy Whitebeard couldn't take care of Minato.

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@deathhero61: Akainu easily outspend jinbe who is on par with gear second luffy lol. Besides that, via power scaling, everyone in the verse luffy tier and bove should be massively hypersonic lol.

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#28  Edited By Scandy

@kingh:

Anyone above Law is MHS since that meteor feat.And almost everyone and their mother are above him.

All CP9 members were hypersonic except for possibly Kalifa and pre-ts Usopp had hypersonic projectiles which Akainu would easily react to.

He also fought on par with Aokiji.

Every Admiral is MHS+ PERIOD.Unless you want me to believe Fujitora can blitz his fellow admirals.

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@kingh said:

@deathhero61: Akainu easily outspend jinbe who is on par with gear second luffy lol. Besides that, via power scaling, everyone in the verse luffy tier and bove should be massively hypersonic lol.

Scans of Jinbei legit outspeeding and showing speed on par with gear second luffy? Because sitting there and tanking his attack easily, and legit outspeeding him or keeping up with him are different things.

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#30  Edited By patrat18

Minato after hours of fighting.

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@deathhero61: Jinbe stopped a bloodlusted Luffy from attacking Black Beard.

Also,Scandy was talking about how almost everybody at Marineford has Haki and can increase their attacks with it.

Haki-Imbued Attacks>>>>>>>>normal attacks

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#32  Edited By Hungry_Sharky

I am going with Whitebeard here.

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@scandy: I consider law and luffy equals

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@patrat18: Why not Whitebeard anymore? What convinced you otherwise?

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@kingh:

Nah, A bloodlusted G2 Luffy would be too much for Law tbh

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@deathhero61: Jinbe stopped a bloodlusted Luffy from attacking Black Beard.

Also,Scandy was talking about how almost everybody at Marineford has Haki and can increase their attacks with it.

Haki-Imbued Attacks>>>>>>>>normal attacks

Jinbe was literally right next to him he already saw that he was about to attack him in the first place, and it shouldn't be that hard to jump in front of his path before luffy went to go attack blackbeard in the first place. And every time i look at that scene it seems that jinbei was there the entire time.

The only ones that laid damage to WB that could have used haki when he fought against them was akainu and even then we don't know how powerful he is in terms of striking strength.

No shit.

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@deathhero61:

Whats your point here?

Akainu fought a top tier in a verse where shit tiers have hypersonic projectiles. That should end the debate right there.

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@shiryu said:

@patrat18: Why not Whitebeard anymore? What convinced you otherwise?

Speed, the fact that Whitebeard will never land a hit.

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@scandy said:

@deathhero61:

Whats your point here?

Akainu fought a top tier in a verse where shit tiers have hypersonic projectiles. That should end the debate right there.

Nope it doesn't end the debate, you are simply using more powerscaling.

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@scandy said:

@kingh:

Nah, A bloodlusted G2 Luffy would be too much for Law tbh

Not really, since he has to attack law physically. All Law has to do is stay in room.

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@patrat18: Ah.

Hey, can I ask you a question? Is Minato retarded?

Why didn't he bother to use Sage Mode against Kurama when we now know he had it all along? And perfect Toad Sage Mode at that.

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#42  Edited By SonDeathEater

@deathhero61: No Jinbe wasn't read the chapter again

http://kissmanga.com/Manga/One-Piece/One-Piece-544?id=10501

Everyone was a good few meters away when luffy fought Black Beard and Jinbe didn't simply sidestep infront of Luffy.Jinbe seemingly appeared in front of luffy in an instant despite Luffy was in mid Soru and enraged. Both Luffy and Black Beard were completely surprised when he suddenly appeared.Note the ?! And !

All Vice Admirals were said to have atleast one type of Haki and if you actually read the links he posted weaker characters like Hody tank bullets with ease.

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#43  Edited By Scandy

@deathhero61:

Powerscaling is fine as long as its not abused.

Akainu being above Law or pre TS G2 Luffy is not powerscaling abuse.

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@shiryu said:

@patrat18: Ah.

Hey, can I ask you a question? Is Minato retarded?

Why didn't he bother to use Sage Mode against Kurama when we now know he had it all along? And perfect Toad Sage Mode at that.

Hmm. LoL i have no idea.

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@shiryu: Maybe he didn't meditate since whatever her name was pregnant and having a baby.Best answer,Plot.

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@patrat18: Thanks.

@sondeatheater: But he was shown to activate it almost instantly... something just doesn't sound right here.

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@shiryu said:

@patrat18: Thanks.

@sondeatheater: But he was shown to activate it almost instantly... something just doesn't sound right here.

Kishi had not thought to give it to him yet.

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#48  Edited By DeathHero61

@shiryu: Maybe he didn't meditate since whatever her name was pregnant and having a baby.Best answer,Plot.

@patrat18 said:

@shiryu said:

@patrat18: Ah.

Hey, can I ask you a question? Is Minato retarded?

Why didn't he bother to use Sage Mode against Kurama when we now know he had it all along? And perfect Toad Sage Mode at that.

Hmm. LoL i have no idea.

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@thatguywithheadphones: I don't even understand why he bothered at this point. The manga, although I thoroughly enjoy it (but less and less every year now), is a series of asspulls.

@deathhero61: I swear... Kishi is so backwards. Minato professes his lack of proficiency in senjutsu but for some reason he has perfect Toad Sage Mode? Ah, whatever.

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Minato, if he plays it smart WB wont get a hit thanks to his speed+ftg