@cadencev2: Wolverine even holding back and trying not to kill has showings like this:
So even if wolverine wasn't going for the kill he still has a lot of impressive displays. Yet Kaine managed to beat wolverine something Peter had issues with. That is why I still say Kaine vs wolverine is still an impressive feat for Kaine. On the subject of wolverines durability being downplayed it wasn't. Every time wolverines heart has been destroyed he has been knocked out temporarily. The showing in scarlet spider is not a low showing for wolverine. And his durability was acknowledged (hence Kaines comment of nearly breaking his hand).
I think Kaine would beat Wolverine, but it would be a dragged out fight. Wolverine Skill as seen on the Vine Battles is scary good and should more than have countered a Stab to the heart.
It makes no sense to me how quick and pathetic that battle was. Grey Hulk vs Wolverine was longer and more impressive!
Anyway. I in no way think Kaine would not own this match if it was vs Ultimate Peter. However their is many factors here.
1) Venom Sting that KOes Omega Red, 616 Peter (When Miles got serious), Scorpion, Giant Women, Rhino, Venom, ect..... Its a instant win with a touch on someone of Kaines durability, as long as Miles is blood lusted and using it at full power.
2) Miles has Spider Sense to negate Kaine's own Stealth Suit.
3) Miles has Invisibility, Kaine has no Spidey Sesne. Surprise attack is easy! Suprise Attack with a touch!
4) Kaine as the other fights with instainct and no skill as well does not use Stealth Suit. Easier win for a Stealth Venom Sting!
Miles should win this.
Alright, question...Miles has spider-sense...is it as advanced as 616 Peter's who could basically pinpoint and track?
Now, I can get scans of Kaine using the stealth suit in combat (not today, tomorrow if I have time). He has and does use it in fights.
As for Kaine fighting with instinct and no skill, I disagree. He may not be traditionally trained, but he is very skilled and fast. He has taken down teams of skilled assassins, and has plenty of experience fighting people with spider powers (Venom, Carnage, Spidey). Not to mention jumping through a being of pure energy and taking a lightning bolt and coming to within seconds -- not saying Miles could not take him out with a full powered blast or two, but Kaine is pretty durable and has good recovery time.
Miles even with spider sense has been proven to be able to be tagged by Spidey.