Yeah...I don't know much about Miles but uh I don't think he's in Wolverines league. I could be wrong...but I doubt it. Taskmaster can't take Wolverine imo. So Wolverine wins.
Miles is stronger, faster, has a spider sense, and is vastly more mobile and versatile. Not to mention he has that venom sting, and he's smarter (by a lot). He's probably not going to get near Wolverine's claws, or let Wolverine's claws get near him.
Not to mention, one of his go-to moves is to incapacitate his opponent's with webbing, and once Wolverine's arms are pinned, he's done (if he can't slash, he can't cut them).
For those of you with the whole "Wolverine is more skilled" argument. If Miles stays more than 4 feet away from Wolverine and dances around him pinning him with webs, there's is LITERALLY NOTHING Wolverine can do about it. Unless Wolverine's opponent stays within 3-4 feet of him, Wolverine is 100% useless in a fight.
Miles is stronger, faster, has a spider sense, and is vastly more mobile and versatile. Not to mention he has that venom sting, and he's smarter (by a lot). He's probably not going to get near Wolverine's claws, or let Wolverine's claws get near him.
To be honest what has Miles done to say he is faster than wolverine? I would say spider-sense is balanced out with skill for the most part and I don't think Miles has the feats of using it in the same way 616 Peter has.
Not to mention, one of his go-to moves is to incapacitate his opponent's with webbing, and once Wolverine's arms are pinned, he's done (if he can't slash, he can't cut them).
From the debates I remember having with Cadence I remember him showing me 2 examples of Miles using webbing and one of the times he missed (you could argue he was rusty but even so). The other example was against fodder. And what noteable accuracy feats does Miles have with webbing to say he can tag wolverine?
For those of you with the whole "Wolverine is more skilled" argument. If Miles stays more than 4 feet away from Wolverine and dances around him pinning him with webs, there's is LITERALLY NOTHING Wolverine can do about it. Unless Wolverine's opponent stays within 3-4 feet of him, Wolverine is 100% useless in a fight.
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I don't think this is going to be an issue as Miles goes melee in a majority of his fights anyways. At least from the bit I've seen. As for pinning wolverine with webbing, he's been able to cut webbing from other spiders before. Its not impossible he can do it to Miles.
Based off a lot of the comments read in debates this past year, I truly believe folks don't know or simply don't remember 90% of Wolverine material. Or, if they're not really fans of the character, maybe they plainly just don't care to know and have never known.
Logan I grew up reading would school a teenage kid like Miles. He's big leagues. One of the most feared on the planet in Marvel land. We've just all somehow forgotten the fact during the whole Cornell fiasco.
Miles has the raw talent (he's a Spider-Man), but not the experience. Given several years and a whole lot of battles/wars, then yeah he could be a threat to Logan. Currently, not so much.
I agree with other posters. Logan 8/10 in the matchup.
Based off a lot of the comments read in debates this past year, I truly believe folks don't know or simply don't remember 90% of Wolverine material. Or, if they're not really fans of the character, maybe they plainly just don't care to know and have never known.
Logan I grew up reading would school a teenage kid like Miles. He's big leagues. One of the most feared on the planet in Marvel land. We've just all somehow forgotten the fact during the whole Cornell fiasco.
Lets not forget Miles, though a teenager, is still 15-20 times stronger, almost twice as fast, and has far more powers to call on than Wolverine.
Wolverine is what, 800 pounds? Miles is 6-8 tons, which is 12,000 to 16,000 pounds. Miles can almost pace a speeding car IIRC, Wolverine is like 20 mph at best?
Wolverine has adamantium bones, 8 inch claws (or so?), and a potent healing factor. Miles has superhuman strength, speed, reflexes, and durability. He has webbing, can climb walls, and can leap incredible distances. To top it all off, he has a Spider Sense.
Yes, Wolverine is a powerful opponent, and a top tier melee fighter. But he's going against someone who outclasses him in every other capacity.
And that's not even including Taskmaster, who has also fought all of Marvel's best.
The argument for Miles thus far is pretty much expecting us to take him as a big threat to Wolverine just because he's a Spider related person. The kid literally has no combat speed based feats thar are comparable to Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting fast enough to be too fast to have Psylocke track them with telepathy, fighting fast enough to make Spider-Man think he could be faster than him, etc. His best Web incap feat was against a bunch of fodder soldiers with no speed feats on par with Wolverine's and James has cut webbing from Spiders like Kaine. Yes, Miles has a Spider Sense. One that isn't as good as 616 Spider-Man's(Whom Wolverine has fought on equal terms with) and something he has ignored as an annoying buzzing at times. He also goes to mêlée combat more often than lot and he's engaging one of Marvel/DC's best melee fighters whom is on a completely different planet than him in terms of martial talent and can soak damage till the cows come home.
Wolverine handily beats Miles and then finishes Taskmaster.
The argument for Miles thus far is pretty much expecting us to take him as a big threat to Wolverine just because he's a Spider related person. The kid literally has no combat speed based feats thar are comparable to Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting fast enough to be too fast to have Psylocke track them with telepathy, fighting fast enough to make Spider-Man think he could be faster than him, etc. His best Web incap feat was against a bunch of fodder soldiers with no speed feats om8 par with Wolverine's and James has cut webbing from Spiders like Kaine. Yes, Miles has a Spider Sense. One that isn't as good as 616 Spider-Man's(Whom Wolverine has fought on equal terms with) and something he has ignored as an annoying buzzing at times. He also goes to mêlée combat more often than lot and he's engaging one of Marvel/DC's best melee fighters whom is on a completely different planet than him in terms of martial talent and can soak damage till the cows come home.
Wolverine handily beats Miles and then finishes Taskmaster.
The argument for Miles thus far is pretty much expecting us to take him as a big threat to Wolverine just because he's a Spider related person. The kid literally has no combat speed based feats thar are comparable to Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting fast enough to be too fast to have Psylocke track them with telepathy, fighting fast enough to make Spider-Man think he could be faster than him, etc. His best Web incap feat was against a bunch of fodder soldiers with no speed feats om8 par with Wolverine's and James has cut webbing from Spiders like Kaine. Yes, Miles has a Spider Sense. One that isn't as good as 616 Spider-Man's(Whom Wolverine has fought on equal terms with) and something he has ignored as an annoying buzzing at times. He also goes to mêlée combat more often than lot and he's engaging one of Marvel/DC's best melee fighters whom is on a completely different planet than him in terms of martial talent and can soak damage till the cows come home.
Wolverine handily beats Miles and then finishes Taskmaster.
The argument for Miles thus far is pretty much expecting us to take him as a big threat to Wolverine just because he's a Spider related person. The kid literally has no combat speed based feats thar are comparable to Wolverine and Sabretooth fighting fast enough to be too fast to have Psylocke track them with telepathy, fighting fast enough to make Spider-Man think he could be faster than him, etc. His best Web incap feat was against a bunch of fodder soldiers with no speed feats om8 par with Wolverine's and James has cut webbing from Spiders like Kaine. Yes, Miles has a Spider Sense. One that isn't as good as 616 Spider-Man's(Whom Wolverine has fought on equal terms with) and something he has ignored as an annoying buzzing at times. He also goes to mêlée combat more often than lot and he's engaging one of Marvel/DC's best melee fighters whom is on a completely different planet than him in terms of martial talent and can soak damage till the cows come home.
Wolverine handily beats Miles and then finishes Taskmaster.
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Not only that, but Venom Sting will do jack. Logan's taken blasts from Skrull-Spider Woman, who was vastly more powerful than the original (someone who's already got a more powerful bio-sting than Miles) before going down.
wolverine shouldn't be able to cut his way out of anything if the spider types just idk webbed him by the wrists, instead of positions where he can actually bend his arms or hands to cut his way out
Quick question, since they are from different universes, does Miles have any knowledge of Wolverine? Does he know anything about Ultimate Wolverine even though he's dead? Just curious
Quick question, since they are from different universes, does Miles have any knowledge of Wolverine? Does he know anything about Ultimate Wolverine even though he's dead? Just curious
there's nothing suggesting he knows him. It's honestly never come up,a nd I don't think it would.
What can tony even do to logan? I would argue he is a better martial artist but he doesn't have the strength and IIRC pressure points don't work on Logan....or am I missing something.
Miles IMO may have trouble by himself, but honestly I have seen him use webbing to incapacitate foes, and he has used time and again the Venom sting to put down super durable beings like Venom, who has a way better healing factor.
However Wolverine should be as fast, Miles is not the same speeds as 616 Peter imo at the time. Wolverine is more skilled too.
However again, miles has a huge boon in Task Master which would greatly increase the chances for Miles to win this fight with his partner here.
I don't think this is as easy for Wolverine as most are assuming. -.-.
Ikr. I think Taskmaster could give him a damn good fight alone. Miles being there doesn't exactly lessen their chances of a win.
The thing that people aren't really considering here(And mostly don't when it comes to two on one battles) is quality always comes before quality. Miles being here doesn't damn matter in the scheme of things. He has literally no speed feats within Wolverine's combat speed, he has never web incapped anyone near as fast or skilled as Wolverine, his blunt force output is laughably below what is needed to drop Wolverine, his Spider Sense isn't all that well developed, and he likes to go to melee combat when Wolverine is substantially better than him in that department due to the aforementioned reasons. This is all on top of the fact that Wolverine has very impressive performances against Spiders with better developed Spider Senses, better physical stats, and are just plain more adept combatants than Miles like 616 Spider-Man.
Honestly, only reason this is a solid fight is due to Taskmaster's presence, and while Tony is an extremely skilled and lethal fighter in his own right when he's not jobbing, he doesn't have neither the damage soak nor damage output to compete with adimantium laced Wolverine and it will be his downfall.
Team might make James sweat, but he's winning this 8+/10.
I don't think this is as easy for Wolverine as most are assuming. -.-.
Ikr. I think Taskmaster could give him a damn good fight alone. Miles being there doesn't exactly lessen their chances of a win.
Totally, they say Spider-Man is overrated but assuming this is a piece of cake is just too much. It's like "Wolverinez stabz Miles and stabz Tasky yeax!"
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