#1 Posted by Spiderben (264 posts) - - Show Bio

who is midnighter and can spider man beet him Nightwingprodigalson sed that he is a gay bat man why is he gay

#2 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderben says:

"who is midnighter and can spider man beet him Nightwingprodigalson sed that he is a gay bat man why is he gay"

He literally is Gay. As in, he likes men.

I think it's a draw. Midnighter will know just about every move Spidey will make, but Spidey's sense/agility will help him dodge Midnighters attacks.

#3 Posted by Nighthunter (28582 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderben says:

"who is midnighter and can spider man beet him Nightwingprodigalson sed that he is a gay bat man why is he gay"

first thing, here's a wiki page on the vine

http://www.comicvine.com/midnighter/2196/

second don't start a battle thread if you don't know the guy

third figure out why he is gay lol

fourth spiderman wins

#4 Posted by Donnieman v5.1 (44323 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnighter beats Spider-Man, period

#5 Posted by Spiderben (264 posts) - - Show Bio

so he likes men like friends or like my mom likes my dad

#6 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderben says:

"so he likes men like friends or like my mom likes my dad"

Like your mom likes your dad.

#7 Posted by Spiderben (264 posts) - - Show Bio

so who wins the batle

#8 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderben says:

"so who wins the batle"

Well, there's one vote for Spidey, one for Midnighter, and one for a draw.

#9 Posted by Spiderben (264 posts) - - Show Bio

i think spider man can win because he can beet bat man in a fight and midnigghter is a gay bat man

#10 Posted by Sparda (15795 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderben says:

"i think spider man can win because he can beet bat man in a fight and midnigghter is a gay bat man "

Midnighter is better than Batman. Midnighter has super-speed, strength, and the ability to see the outcome of the battle before it happens, among other things like a healing factor. I think that the two are pretty much evenly matched, although I don't know just how high Midnighters strength, speed, and reactions are.
Post Edited:2007-11-25 22:52:04

#11 Posted by Spiderben (264 posts) - - Show Bio

so he is more like a gay spider man than a gay bat man

#12 Posted by The_Martian (36984 posts) - - Show Bio

This battle has been done before. I think most said Spider-Man.

#13 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderben says:

"so he likes men like friends or like my mom likes my dad"

AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
That needs to go on a quotes list.

#14 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderben says:

"so he likes men like friends or like my mom likes my dad"

lmao

#15 Posted by Buckshot (18915 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

yeah i think Midnighter would win. if he could see the outcome of every battle then he should be able to compensate for spiderman's spider sense.

#17 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Even though the Midnighter can calculate every possible outcome, what if his implants can't come up with any outcomes because h doesn't have the strength or speed to match the solution?"

that's where the surroundings come in handy, same with spiderman he uses his surroundings against stronger appoints, midnighter would be better at it with his implants.

besides would they be about the same speed and same strength lvl?

#18 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

The real question is: will Pete hold back? Because if he does, he's finished.

#19 Posted by the creator (8576 posts) - - Show Bio

I still reference the things we have seen Midnighter do and the official published figures on the Authority (an RPG game) to know that Spiderman is nowdays far stronger and faster than Midnighter (Midnighter 1 - 2 tonnes, Spiderman 20 tonnes. Midnighter several times faster than a human, Spiderman 18 times).

The simulator is the difficult part because it permits a long term battle plan that is always updating as the fight progresses. The Spider sense typically only responds to the next action in most circumstances - so no longer term planning. This would give Midnighter a tactical advantage for sure. However, Midnighter would need to avoid Spideys blows and also land his own. The Spider sense would help here as it could limit Midnighters effectiveness.

The spider sense would alert Spiderman not to jump one way as Midnighters battle plan has him waiting to smack Spiderman in the chops. So Spiderman leaps the other way.

In this way the spider sense acts like for short duration 'telepathy' - it 'sees' the problem. So on a second by second basis, Spiderman could counteract the Midnighters battle plans. In this, a simulator would struggle to overcome a person who does not do what has been planned.

Spiderman has in the past be hit by being put in an encounter where danger was coming from more than one direction and he had indecision about where to leap to as his spider sense is giving off mixed messages.

I do think that Midnighter could get Spiderman in to a situation like this but this would take some time to arrange.

All in all, I would still favour Spiderman for the win due to the extent of his strength and agility - and that he is fairly resourceful himself.

#20 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"wow and people wonder why I don't like DC as much."

What does DC have to do with this?

#21 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"What does DC have to do with this?"

Midnighter is Wildstorm... which is now DC?

dunno, just trying to piece it together myself

M

#22 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Methos says:
"Static Shock says:
"What does DC have to do with this?"
Midnighter is Wildstorm... which is now DC? dunno, just trying to piece it together myself M "

WildStorm..DC..it's basically the same thing."

I know where he's from. I'm just saying. What does Midnighter being from DC/Wildstorm have to do with anything? That's besides the point of this thread.

#23 Posted by Buckshot (18915 posts) - - Show Bio

He's just a hater. One day we'll be rid of him.

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#24 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Buckshot says:

"He's just a hater. One day we'll be rid of him."

You mean Colt, right?

#25 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"I asked Acewasp a question about the Midnighter and the answer contributes to the reason why I don't read as much DC\WildStorm comics."

Either or, it's still besides the point...

#26 Posted by Buckshot (18915 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"The point is dead, We already established that the Midnighter wins."

Nothing has been "established".

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#27 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

it's a tough one...

Spiderman has the lead in Strength, Speed and Agility...

but i wouldn't could Midnighter out just for his psychological warfare tactics...

in theory, he could probably talk Spiderman into suicide in under 10 minutes

M

#28 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

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#29 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Methos says:

"it's a tough one...Spiderman has the lead in Strength, Speed and Agility...but i wouldn't could Midnighter out just for his psychological warfare tactics...in theory, he could probably talk Spiderman into suicide in under 10 minutesM"

I can't call this. Don't know who wins. I don't know a thing about Midnighter anyway. I haven't read a Wildstorm comic since 3rd grade.

#30 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

if anything i'm tempted to give it to Midnighter... only because he'd definitely go directly for 'the kill', while Spiderman would be reluctant to go directly for a killing blow

M

#31 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Midnighter talks too damn much, I guess...

#32 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"That's what I was asking earlier.The Midnighter's implant allows him to predict every possible outcome in a fight, but what if his opponent utclasses him in every aspect physically.Does the implants stil generate a solution.What if he fights Superman or Colossus, someone so mch stronger than him.Does the implants compensate for that? And how could the midnighter talk Spider-man into suicide?"

there's always a solution to any fight...

if it means retreating and coming back with a different weapon then that is what the implants will tell him to do.

as for talking him into suicide, Midnighter has used that method before to "break someone" instead of fighting them... it took one conversation to talk a seasoned metahuman marine to leave the battle field and settle down with his lover.

M

#33 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"But if Spider-man is in a fight he always seems to re-act right away.Especially when fighting Iron Man."

I have never seen Spiderman go directly for a killing blow at the start of a fight... never...

while that is all Midnighter does

M

#34 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Methos says:
"Colt Python says:
"But if Spider-man is in a fight he always seems to re-act right away.Especially when fighting Iron Man."
I have **never** seen Spiderman go directly for a killing blow at the start of a fight... never... while that is **all** Midnighter does M "

True. but alot of times I see Spider-man aiming to keep his enemy still by webbing them up from the begginning.I don't read alot of Spier-man but I have never seen anyone get out of those webs.Or at least not right away."

I heard his organic webbing held the Hulk down for a few minutes.

#35 Posted by the creator (8576 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"Static Shock says:
"Colt Python says:
"I asked Acewasp a question about the Midnighter and the answer contributes to the reason why I don't read as much DC\WildStorm comics."
Either or, it's still besides the point..."
The point is dead, We already established that the Midnighter wins.I wasn't trying to add to the point by what I said it was just in response to Acewasp's answer to my question."

A little bit early to be making that assumption...

#36 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to agree with the Creator on this one. Peter should come out on top, his Spider-sense will come into play and though the battle won't be a short one, it will end in Mr. Parker coming out on top.

#37 Posted by the creator (8576 posts) - - Show Bio

Colt Python says:

"The_Creator says:
"Colt Python says:
"Static Shock says:
"Colt Python says:
"I asked Acewasp a question about the Midnighter and the answer contributes to the reason why I don't read as much DC\WildStorm comics."
Either or, it's still besides the point..."
The point is dead, We already established that the Midnighter wins.I wasn't trying to add to the point by what I said it was just in response to Acewasp's answer to my question."
A little bit early to be making that assumption... "
A little bit late on my comment to still feel any sort of way about it..."

Sorry my life involves other activities than sitting on the vine. I came to your comment while trawling through thwe thread (in posting order). But the truth remains the truth when ever it is posted.

#38 Posted by Rotten gun (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

acewasp23 says:

"Colt Python says:
"Even though the Midnighter can calculate every possible outcome, what if his implants can't come up with any outcomes because h doesn't have the strength or speed to match the solution?"
that's where the surroundings come in handy, same with spiderman he uses his surroundings against stronger appoints, midnighter would be better at it with his implants. besides would they be about the same speed and same strength lvl? "

so midnighter is a gay man with implants. hmmmmn? well i wont be rooting for him eh? ah? um? i mean voting for him

#39 Posted by acewasp23 (6087 posts) - - Show Bio

Rotten gun says:

"so midnighter is a gay man with implants. hmmmmn? well i wont be rooting for him eh? ah? um? i mean voting for him"

Lmao i never put the Implants and the fact that he is a homosexual together.