Midnighter vs GA Superman

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#1  Edited By OmegaDynasty

   
 
vs 
       
 
 
Midnighter 
vs 
GA Superman 
 
Location: Metropolis  
 
Rules:  
 Round 1:
Winner by death or KO.  
Random encounter.  
No Doors.  
Midighters doesn't have his computer.   
Morals on.

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#2  Edited By LONGTIME

GA Superman doesn't play around, he wrecks this nobody.

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#3  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
@LONGTIME: Did you just call The Midnighter a nobody?
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#4  Edited By King_Saturn
Golden Age Superman could beat Midnighter... even during Superman's early years he had some impressive feats... and during the latter part of the Golden Age. Superman started showing feats near his Silver Age levels. 
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#5  Edited By ThexX

This is a spite thread Moderaters please lock

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#6  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@King Saturn said:
Golden Age Superman could beat Midnighter... even during Superman's early years he had some impressive feats... and during the latter part of the Golden Age. Superman started showing feats near his Silver Age levels. 
@ThexX said:

This is a spite thread Moderaters please lock

Going with the Golde Age version, who is 20-30 ton range, and can't fly.  So not the one with SA powers.
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#7  Edited By Static Shock

Without the computer, Midnighter has his work cut out for him.  
 
-Waits for Buckshot-

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#8  Edited By HolySerpent

Answer ....man of steel

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#9  Edited By YoungThriller

Supes wrecks him quiet easily.

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#10  Edited By eatmore_payless

Midnighter would prolly, flirt Clark instead of fighting him, I mean he is the man of steel, Lois lane didn't fell for him for nothing

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#11  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@YoungThriller said:

Supes wrecks him quiet easily.

Think so?  
From what I know of GA Superman he doesn't have the normal powers of Superman of today.  
Strength: 20-30 tons 
Durablity: Invunerable to bullets, artillery shells and bigger rounds can hurt him cause him to bleed and or die.
Flight: Can't fly, but can jump really high.  
Heat vision: No heat vision, but has telescopic vision that works kinda in the same way.  
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#13  Edited By YoungThriller

Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.

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#14  Edited By Nerx

@YoungThriller: dude, superman is tough but he is not immune to portal slice and this is where he only as fast as a speeding bullet.

@eatmore_payless: superman can turn gay with pink kryptonite too

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#15  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

Without battle computer Midnighter loses, with it he can take GA Supes 6/10

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#16  Edited By Nerx

Does he get nano-aids, or pocket nuke?

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#17  Edited By Saren

@Nerx said:

Does he get nano-aids, or pocket nuke?

The pocket nuke should be standard equipment. The nano-aids capsule is not, as far as I know, it was in Krigstein's lab and he doored himself there to get it.

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#18  Edited By Nerx

@CitizenBane: Wbt the carrier laser he used to wipe out kriegstein's men during their invasion?

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#19  Edited By Saren

@Nerx: What laser? He drove the Carrier through Gamorra Island, I don't recall him using a laser.

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#20  Edited By Saren

@Nerx: Never mind, disregard what I said. Is this what you were talking about?

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#21  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

@YoungThriller said:

Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.

If this supes is a mostly unskilled 25 tonner that is quick, can jump high, and is bullet proof, I think Midnighter can take him even without his combat computer. Midnighter trades blows with Hawksmoor, a 40 tonner at minimum and has weathered hits from even stronger foes. Midnighter's speed is sufficient to allow him to brutalize enemies faster than they can register his movement and dodge bullets at close range (while saying he didn't need his computer to do it) so I don't think Superman is much faster than him if at all. So if they're on similar levels when it come to speed and strength, I think Midnighter's actual fighting skill (there are examples of him training and identifying martial arts which indicate he has knowledge other than what the computer tells him to do) would win it for him.

@Nerx said:

Does he get nano-aids, or pocket nuke?

I was assuming he got nothing but his staff and maybe his shuriken since most people don't realize he carries explosives of varying intensities and so probably didnt think about that when putting the fight together.

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#22  Edited By Enemybird

Superman would tank everything

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#23  Edited By Pistolwhip1
@Enemybird said:

Superman would tank everything

Not sure about that GA supes wasn't that powerful, compared to today's Superman. 
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#24  Edited By lady_liberty

Without his battle computer Midnighter has lost one of his primary advantages. Still, he is pretty amazing without it. This is a fairly well balanced fight, as Midnighter will completely outclass Superman in combat skill, but will not do that much damage to him.

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#25  Edited By capfan80

Does Midnighter have his Jackhammer? :(

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#27  Edited By termiteone4ever

Ga supes was a bit weaker but he had no weakness and really invulnerable. I dont recall seen this fool really getting hurt.

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#28  Edited By Wyldsong

@Buckshot said:

@YoungThriller said:

Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.

If this supes is a mostly unskilled 25 tonner that is quick, can jump high, and is bullet proof, I think Midnighter can take him even without his combat computer. Midnighter trades blows with Hawksmoor, a 40 tonner at minimum and has weathered hits from even stronger foes. Midnighter's speed is sufficient to allow him to brutalize enemies faster than they can register his movement and dodge bullets at close range (while saying he didn't need his computer to do it) so I don't think Superman is much faster than him if at all. So if they're on similar levels when it come to speed and strength, I think Midnighter's actual fighting skill (there are examples of him training and identifying martial arts which indicate he has knowledge other than what the computer tells him to do) would win it for him.

I do believe early GA Supes was about as you described. Late GA Supes was nearing SA levels I believe though. If so, with early GA, I think Midnighter can take it. Late GA, I'll go with Supes.

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#29  Edited By jeanroygrant

Midnighter.

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#30  Edited By Nerx

@CitizenBane: Yeah, but its like their base which thy got 24/7

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#32  Edited By Charlie_Jade

@OmegaDynasty said:

From what I know of GA Superman he doesn't have the normal powers of Superman of today.

GA Supes is still way faster and way stronger, he didn't hold back during the golden age either and often killed criminals

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#33  Edited By Esquire

@Charlie_Jade: Midnighter has moved faster than a speedster could see, and he's killed three speedsters in his career. GA Supes isn't that much faster than a bullet, but Midnighter's speed bursts appear to be. GA Supes is quite a bit stronger, but Midnighter has been able to hurt Apollo and a female version of Apollo, as well as Maul. All three of them have durability around pre-Flashpoint Superman levels, so Midnighter should be plenty effective enough to hurt GA Supes. And he never holds back at all, either.

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#34  Edited By laflux

@Esquire said:

@Charlie_Jade: Midnighter has moved faster than a speedster could see, and he's killed three speedsters in his career. GA Supes isn't that much faster than a bullet, but Midnighter's speed bursts appear to be. GA Supes is quite a bit stronger, but Midnighter has been able to hurt Apollo and a female version of Apollo, as well as Maul. All three of them have durability around pre-Flashpoint Superman levels, so Midnighter should be plenty effective enough to hurt GA Supes. And he never holds back at all, either.

This. If the Op is limiting Superman to the level I think he is, then I'd say Midnighter wins.

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#35  Edited By Esquire

@laflux: The best comparison I can come up with for GA Supes is Hawksmoor on the Carrier, although Jack is massively stronger. And Midnighter still owned him twice. He's never struggled with enhanced durability, and he's done things like kill a kinetic energy absorber by cutting of blood flow to the brain. He's beaten far better than this guy, assuming it's the Supes who couldn't fly and was around a 30-tonner.

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#36  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

I'm gonna let my biased side come out. Supes wins, I hate Nighter. My troll logic>>>>anyone else's rational logic.

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#37  Edited By turoksonofstone

Superman punts him.

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#38  Edited By Charlie_Jade

@LONGTIME said:

GA Superman doesn't play around, he wrecks this nobody.

What do you think of Midnighters new costume?

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#39  Edited By dondave

Midnighter ftw

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#40  Edited By Charlie_Jade

did he forget his battle computer?

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#41  Edited By laflux

@Charlie_Jade said:

did he forget his battle computer?

Urghh

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#42  Edited By Saren

Here's what happened after Assassin8 could no longer rely on a special toxin to weaken Midnighter:

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Superman puts his cape around Midnighter.

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#44  Edited By Charlie_Jade

chopping off a beaten person's legs and arms doesn't make you powerful or superheroic

It means midnighter is lower than an Arab extremist,

that's all.

Midnigher has the power and honor on the same level of extremist muslims who capture journalists and saw off their limbs and then post the clips on youtube

Supes got this, he can move faster than Midnighter reacts

Superman hits as hard as a locomotive, Midnighter is done after the first strike

be glad Superman actually has a little nobility and honor unlike Midnighter

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#45  Edited By Charlie_Jade

@god_spawn said:

I'm gonna let my biased side come out. Supes wins, I hate Nighter. My troll logic>>>>anyone else's rational logic.

Midnighter fights like a troll anyway, sawing off a beaten person's limbs isn't exactly cool

Wildstrom's Midnighter is a person who has the same level of honor as an Afghan jihadist

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#46  Edited By Saren

@Charlie_Jade said:

chopping off a beaten person's legs and arms doesn't make you powerful or superheroic

It means midnighter is lower than an Arab extremist,

that's all.

Midnigher has the power and honor on the same level of extremist muslims who capture journalists and saw off their limbs and then post the clips on youtube

Supes got this, he can move faster than Midnighter reacts

Superman hits as hard as a locomotive, Midnighter is done after the first strike

be glad Superman actually has a little nobility and honor unlike Midnighter who has the same level of honor as an Afghan jihadist

GA Superman's not even a quarter as strong as some of the bricks Midnighter has one-shotted. He hits as hard as a locomotive? Good for him. Midnighter has killed Incubites who could toss locomotives around like toys, thrashed Hawksmoor (a guy who can chuck propane tankers and destroy tanks just by falling through them) and brought down Maul with a nerve-strike. Maul could eat the Titanic if he felt like it, forget about punching as hard as a locomotive. I haven't seen anything that indicates GA Superman can strike faster than Midnighter can react.

The rest of your post is just the empty rant of an upset troll. Not interested.

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#47  Edited By Charlie_Jade

Midnighter owning Maul = Cap beating in hand to hand Rhino = Deathstroke beating Flash in hand to hand = utter PIS

You have heard of the concept of PIS Bane?

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#48  Edited By Bane_of_sith

All hating aside it's not always PIS when a far weaker person drops or one shots a vastly stronger opponent..daredevil dropped Hyde with one shot and he is capable of lifting 40-50 tons..with pure skill. I think midnighter could bet GA supes,,he's not nearly as impressive as his SA feats or others

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#49  Edited By Saren

@Charlie_Jade said:

Midnighter owning Maul = Cap beating in hand to hand Rhino = Deathstroke beating Flash in hand to hand = utter PIS

You have heard of the concept of PIS Bane?

I'm moderately amused because you posted Assassin8 beating Midnighter with a plot device, and knowing you, you probably haven't even read the issue and were posting it as an example of an ordinary human beating Midnighter. Which would have been PIS, but I doubt that would have met with any objection from you.

Midnighter's nerve-strike against Maul is consistent. He has a track record of bringing down super-strong, super-durable opponents with his hits, whether you like it or not. Maul's strength and durability increase in accordance with his size, and at that size he probably wasn't on Majestic's level or anything like that, but he was comfortably at least 10 times stronger than GA Superman.

I suppose it's a good thing I didn't bring up Midnighter taking a kick from Sebastian, the evil Majestic, and getting up to kick him right back. I can only imagine how much pain that would have caused you.

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#50  Edited By AllStarSuperman

Golden age superman stomps...

If you mean action comics one superman then its pretty fair but I say supes still wins