vs
Midnighter
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GA Superman
Location: Metropolis
Rules:
Round 1:
Winner by death or KO.
Random encounter.
No Doors.
Midighters doesn't have his computer.
Morals on.
Midnighter vs GA Superman
Golden Age Superman could beat Midnighter... even during Superman's early years he had some impressive feats... and during the latter part of the Golden Age. Superman started showing feats near his Silver Age levels.@ThexX said:
Going with the Golde Age version, who is 20-30 ton range, and can't fly. So not the one with SA powers.This is a spite thread Moderaters please lock
Midnighter would prolly, flirt Clark instead of fighting him, I mean he is the man of steel, Lois lane didn't fell for him for nothing
Think so?Supes wrecks him quiet easily.
From what I know of GA Superman he doesn't have the normal powers of Superman of today.
Strength: 20-30 tons
Durablity: Invunerable to bullets, artillery shells and bigger rounds can hurt him cause him to bleed and or die.
Flight: Can't fly, but can jump really high.
Heat vision: No heat vision, but has telescopic vision that works kinda in the same way.
Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.
@YoungThriller said:
Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.
If this supes is a mostly unskilled 25 tonner that is quick, can jump high, and is bullet proof, I think Midnighter can take him even without his combat computer. Midnighter trades blows with Hawksmoor, a 40 tonner at minimum and has weathered hits from even stronger foes. Midnighter's speed is sufficient to allow him to brutalize enemies faster than they can register his movement and dodge bullets at close range (while saying he didn't need his computer to do it) so I don't think Superman is much faster than him if at all. So if they're on similar levels when it come to speed and strength, I think Midnighter's actual fighting skill (there are examples of him training and identifying martial arts which indicate he has knowledge other than what the computer tells him to do) would win it for him.
@Nerx said:
Does he get nano-aids, or pocket nuke?
I was assuming he got nothing but his staff and maybe his shuriken since most people don't realize he carries explosives of varying intensities and so probably didnt think about that when putting the fight together.
Not sure about that GA supes wasn't that powerful, compared to today's Superman.Superman would tank everything
Without his battle computer Midnighter has lost one of his primary advantages. Still, he is pretty amazing without it. This is a fairly well balanced fight, as Midnighter will completely outclass Superman in combat skill, but will not do that much damage to him.
Ga supes was a bit weaker but he had no weakness and really invulnerable. I dont recall seen this fool really getting hurt.
@Buckshot said:
@YoungThriller said:
Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.
If this supes is a mostly unskilled 25 tonner that is quick, can jump high, and is bullet proof, I think Midnighter can take him even without his combat computer. Midnighter trades blows with Hawksmoor, a 40 tonner at minimum and has weathered hits from even stronger foes. Midnighter's speed is sufficient to allow him to brutalize enemies faster than they can register his movement and dodge bullets at close range (while saying he didn't need his computer to do it) so I don't think Superman is much faster than him if at all. So if they're on similar levels when it come to speed and strength, I think Midnighter's actual fighting skill (there are examples of him training and identifying martial arts which indicate he has knowledge other than what the computer tells him to do) would win it for him.
I do believe early GA Supes was about as you described. Late GA Supes was nearing SA levels I believe though. If so, with early GA, I think Midnighter can take it. Late GA, I'll go with Supes.
@Pistolwhip1: That ain't golden age superman, golden age can't fly
This is golden age superman (that links to his feats btw)
@OmegaDynasty said:
From what I know of GA Superman he doesn't have the normal powers of Superman of today.
GA Supes is still way faster and way stronger, he didn't hold back during the golden age either and often killed criminals
@Charlie_Jade: Midnighter has moved faster than a speedster could see, and he's killed three speedsters in his career. GA Supes isn't that much faster than a bullet, but Midnighter's speed bursts appear to be. GA Supes is quite a bit stronger, but Midnighter has been able to hurt Apollo and a female version of Apollo, as well as Maul. All three of them have durability around pre-Flashpoint Superman levels, so Midnighter should be plenty effective enough to hurt GA Supes. And he never holds back at all, either.
@Esquire said:
@Charlie_Jade: Midnighter has moved faster than a speedster could see, and he's killed three speedsters in his career. GA Supes isn't that much faster than a bullet, but Midnighter's speed bursts appear to be. GA Supes is quite a bit stronger, but Midnighter has been able to hurt Apollo and a female version of Apollo, as well as Maul. All three of them have durability around pre-Flashpoint Superman levels, so Midnighter should be plenty effective enough to hurt GA Supes. And he never holds back at all, either.
This. If the Op is limiting Superman to the level I think he is, then I'd say Midnighter wins.
@laflux: The best comparison I can come up with for GA Supes is Hawksmoor on the Carrier, although Jack is massively stronger. And Midnighter still owned him twice. He's never struggled with enhanced durability, and he's done things like kill a kinetic energy absorber by cutting of blood flow to the brain. He's beaten far better than this guy, assuming it's the Supes who couldn't fly and was around a 30-tonner.
@LONGTIME said:
GA Superman doesn't play around, he wrecks this nobody.
What do you think of Midnighters new costume?
chopping off a beaten person's legs and arms doesn't make you powerful or superheroic
It means midnighter is lower than an Arab extremist,
that's all.
Midnigher has the power and honor on the same level of extremist muslims who capture journalists and saw off their limbs and then post the clips on youtube
Supes got this, he can move faster than Midnighter reacts
Superman hits as hard as a locomotive, Midnighter is done after the first strike
be glad Superman actually has a little nobility and honor unlike Midnighter
@god_spawn said:
I'm gonna let my biased side come out. Supes wins, I hate Nighter. My troll logic>>>>anyone else's rational logic.
Midnighter fights like a troll anyway, sawing off a beaten person's limbs isn't exactly cool
Wildstrom's Midnighter is a person who has the same level of honor as an Afghan jihadist
@Charlie_Jade said:
chopping off a beaten person's legs and arms doesn't make you powerful or superheroic
It means midnighter is lower than an Arab extremist,
that's all.
Midnigher has the power and honor on the same level of extremist muslims who capture journalists and saw off their limbs and then post the clips on youtube
Supes got this, he can move faster than Midnighter reacts
Superman hits as hard as a locomotive, Midnighter is done after the first strike
be glad Superman actually has a little nobility and honor unlike Midnighter who has the same level of honor as an Afghan jihadist
GA Superman's not even a quarter as strong as some of the bricks Midnighter has one-shotted. He hits as hard as a locomotive? Good for him. Midnighter has killed Incubites who could toss locomotives around like toys, thrashed Hawksmoor (a guy who can chuck propane tankers and destroy tanks just by falling through them) and brought down Maul with a nerve-strike. Maul could eat the Titanic if he felt like it, forget about punching as hard as a locomotive. I haven't seen anything that indicates GA Superman can strike faster than Midnighter can react.
The rest of your post is just the empty rant of an upset troll. Not interested.
Midnighter owning Maul = Cap beating in hand to hand Rhino = Deathstroke beating Flash in hand to hand = utter PIS
You have heard of the concept of PIS Bane?
All hating aside it's not always PIS when a far weaker person drops or one shots a vastly stronger opponent..daredevil dropped Hyde with one shot and he is capable of lifting 40-50 tons..with pure skill. I think midnighter could bet GA supes,,he's not nearly as impressive as his SA feats or others
@Charlie_Jade said:
Midnighter owning Maul = Cap beating in hand to hand Rhino = Deathstroke beating Flash in hand to hand = utter PIS
You have heard of the concept of PIS Bane?
I'm moderately amused because you posted Assassin8 beating Midnighter with a plot device, and knowing you, you probably haven't even read the issue and were posting it as an example of an ordinary human beating Midnighter. Which would have been PIS, but I doubt that would have met with any objection from you.
Midnighter's nerve-strike against Maul is consistent. He has a track record of bringing down super-strong, super-durable opponents with his hits, whether you like it or not. Maul's strength and durability increase in accordance with his size, and at that size he probably wasn't on Majestic's level or anything like that, but he was comfortably at least 10 times stronger than GA Superman.
I suppose it's a good thing I didn't bring up Midnighter taking a kick from Sebastian, the evil Majestic, and getting up to kick him right back. I can only imagine how much pain that would have caused you.
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