#1 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9184 posts) - - Show Bio

   
 
vs 
       
 
 
Midnighter 
vs 
GA Superman 
 
Location: Metropolis  
 
Rules:  
 Round 1:
Winner by death or KO.  
Random encounter.  
No Doors.  
Midighters doesn't have his computer.   
Morals on.

#2 Posted by LONGTIME (926 posts) - - Show Bio

GA Superman doesn't play around, he wrecks this nobody.

#3 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio
@LONGTIME: Did you just call The Midnighter a nobody?
#4 Posted by King Saturn (223985 posts) - - Show Bio
Golden Age Superman could beat Midnighter... even during Superman's early years he had some impressive feats... and during the latter part of the Golden Age. Superman started showing feats near his Silver Age levels. 
#5 Posted by ThexX (1564 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a spite thread Moderaters please lock

#6 Posted by OmegaDynasty (9184 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
Golden Age Superman could beat Midnighter... even during Superman's early years he had some impressive feats... and during the latter part of the Golden Age. Superman started showing feats near his Silver Age levels. 
@ThexX said:

This is a spite thread Moderaters please lock

Going with the Golde Age version, who is 20-30 ton range, and can't fly.  So not the one with SA powers.
#7 Posted by Static Shock (47329 posts) - - Show Bio

Without the computer, Midnighter has his work cut out for him.  
 
-Waits for Buckshot-

#8 Posted by HolySerpent (12515 posts) - - Show Bio

Answer ....man of steel

#9 Posted by YoungThriller (746 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes wrecks him quiet easily.

#10 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnighter would prolly, flirt Clark instead of fighting him, I mean he is the man of steel, Lois lane didn't fell for him for nothing

#11 Edited by OmegaDynasty (9184 posts) - - Show Bio
@YoungThriller said:

Supes wrecks him quiet easily.

Think so?  
From what I know of GA Superman he doesn't have the normal powers of Superman of today.  
Strength: 20-30 tons 
Durablity: Invunerable to bullets, artillery shells and bigger rounds can hurt him cause him to bleed and or die.
Flight: Can't fly, but can jump really high.  
Heat vision: No heat vision, but has telescopic vision that works kinda in the same way.  
#12 Posted by eatmore_payless (2210 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by YoungThriller (746 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.

#14 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungThriller: dude, superman is tough but he is not immune to portal slice and this is where he only as fast as a speeding bullet.

@eatmore_payless: superman can turn gay with pink kryptonite too

#15 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5344 posts) - - Show Bio

Without battle computer Midnighter loses, with it he can take GA Supes 6/10

#16 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

Does he get nano-aids, or pocket nuke?

#17 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nerx said:

Does he get nano-aids, or pocket nuke?

The pocket nuke should be standard equipment. The nano-aids capsule is not, as far as I know, it was in Krigstein's lab and he doored himself there to get it.

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#18 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Wbt the carrier laser he used to wipe out kriegstein's men during their invasion?

#19 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nerx: What laser? He drove the Carrier through Gamorra Island, I don't recall him using a laser.

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#20 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nerx: Never mind, disregard what I said. Is this what you were talking about?

The Carrier isn't standard equipment, of course.

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#21 Posted by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

@YoungThriller said:

Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.

If this supes is a mostly unskilled 25 tonner that is quick, can jump high, and is bullet proof, I think Midnighter can take him even without his combat computer. Midnighter trades blows with Hawksmoor, a 40 tonner at minimum and has weathered hits from even stronger foes. Midnighter's speed is sufficient to allow him to brutalize enemies faster than they can register his movement and dodge bullets at close range (while saying he didn't need his computer to do it) so I don't think Superman is much faster than him if at all. So if they're on similar levels when it come to speed and strength, I think Midnighter's actual fighting skill (there are examples of him training and identifying martial arts which indicate he has knowledge other than what the computer tells him to do) would win it for him.

@Nerx said:

Does he get nano-aids, or pocket nuke?

I was assuming he got nothing but his staff and maybe his shuriken since most people don't realize he carries explosives of varying intensities and so probably didnt think about that when putting the fight together.

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#22 Posted by Enemybird (3216 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman would tank everything

#23 Posted by Pistolwhip1 (840 posts) - - Show Bio
@Enemybird said:

Superman would tank everything

Not sure about that GA supes wasn't that powerful, compared to today's Superman. 
#24 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8279 posts) - - Show Bio

Without his battle computer Midnighter has lost one of his primary advantages. Still, he is pretty amazing without it. This is a fairly well balanced fight, as Midnighter will completely outclass Superman in combat skill, but will not do that much damage to him.

#25 Posted by capfan80 (348 posts) - - Show Bio

Does Midnighter have his Jackhammer? :(

#26 Posted by Pistolwhip1 (840 posts) - - Show Bio

Well here are some scans of GA Superman I found.  
 

#27 Posted by termiteone4ever (7132 posts) - - Show Bio

Ga supes was a bit weaker but he had no weakness and really invulnerable. I dont recall seen this fool really getting hurt.

#28 Posted by Wyldsong (5320 posts) - - Show Bio

@Buckshot said:

@YoungThriller said:

Midnighter isn't in that range,bullets can hurt midnighter like any other human to my understanding,Considering I've only read storm watch,and the authority relentless. He isn't strong enough to lift much,he's pretty fast,but not GA superman fast,who can still respond to things like bullets at point blank range.And midnighter has a battle computer but I doubt that would help.Plus midnighters pain receptors are turned off,but even Ga supes can punch him into pulp where it wouldn't matter.Supes wins in my opinion.

If this supes is a mostly unskilled 25 tonner that is quick, can jump high, and is bullet proof, I think Midnighter can take him even without his combat computer. Midnighter trades blows with Hawksmoor, a 40 tonner at minimum and has weathered hits from even stronger foes. Midnighter's speed is sufficient to allow him to brutalize enemies faster than they can register his movement and dodge bullets at close range (while saying he didn't need his computer to do it) so I don't think Superman is much faster than him if at all. So if they're on similar levels when it come to speed and strength, I think Midnighter's actual fighting skill (there are examples of him training and identifying martial arts which indicate he has knowledge other than what the computer tells him to do) would win it for him.

I do believe early GA Supes was about as you described. Late GA Supes was nearing SA levels I believe though. If so, with early GA, I think Midnighter can take it. Late GA, I'll go with Supes.

#29 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnighter.

#30 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Yeah, but its like their base which thy got 24/7

#31 Posted by Nerx (15088 posts) - - Show Bio
#32 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

@OmegaDynasty said:

From what I know of GA Superman he doesn't have the normal powers of Superman of today.

GA Supes is still way faster and way stronger, he didn't hold back during the golden age either and often killed criminals

#33 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade: Midnighter has moved faster than a speedster could see, and he's killed three speedsters in his career. GA Supes isn't that much faster than a bullet, but Midnighter's speed bursts appear to be. GA Supes is quite a bit stronger, but Midnighter has been able to hurt Apollo and a female version of Apollo, as well as Maul. All three of them have durability around pre-Flashpoint Superman levels, so Midnighter should be plenty effective enough to hurt GA Supes. And he never holds back at all, either.

#34 Posted by laflux (15044 posts) - - Show Bio

@Esquire said:

@Charlie_Jade: Midnighter has moved faster than a speedster could see, and he's killed three speedsters in his career. GA Supes isn't that much faster than a bullet, but Midnighter's speed bursts appear to be. GA Supes is quite a bit stronger, but Midnighter has been able to hurt Apollo and a female version of Apollo, as well as Maul. All three of them have durability around pre-Flashpoint Superman levels, so Midnighter should be plenty effective enough to hurt GA Supes. And he never holds back at all, either.

This. If the Op is limiting Superman to the level I think he is, then I'd say Midnighter wins.

#35 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: The best comparison I can come up with for GA Supes is Hawksmoor on the Carrier, although Jack is massively stronger. And Midnighter still owned him twice. He's never struggled with enhanced durability, and he's done things like kill a kinetic energy absorber by cutting of blood flow to the brain. He's beaten far better than this guy, assuming it's the Supes who couldn't fly and was around a 30-tonner.

#36 Posted by God_Spawn (37569 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna let my biased side come out. Supes wins, I hate Nighter. My troll logic>>>>anyone else's rational logic.

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#37 Posted by turoksonofstone (13199 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman punts him.

#38 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

@LONGTIME said:

GA Superman doesn't play around, he wrecks this nobody.

What do you think of Midnighters new costume?

#39 Posted by dondave (35985 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnighter ftw

#40 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

did he forget his battle computer?

#41 Posted by laflux (15044 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade said:

did he forget his battle computer?

Urghh

#42 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's what happened after Assassin8 could no longer rely on a special toxin to weaken Midnighter:

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#43 Posted by logy5000 (5713 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman puts his cape around Midnighter.

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#44 Edited by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

chopping off a beaten person's legs and arms doesn't make you powerful or superheroic

It means midnighter is lower than an Arab extremist,

that's all.

Midnigher has the power and honor on the same level of extremist muslims who capture journalists and saw off their limbs and then post the clips on youtube

Supes got this, he can move faster than Midnighter reacts

Superman hits as hard as a locomotive, Midnighter is done after the first strike

be glad Superman actually has a little nobility and honor unlike Midnighter

#45 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

I'm gonna let my biased side come out. Supes wins, I hate Nighter. My troll logic>>>>anyone else's rational logic.

Midnighter fights like a troll anyway, sawing off a beaten person's limbs isn't exactly cool

Wildstrom's Midnighter is a person who has the same level of honor as an Afghan jihadist

#46 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade said:

chopping off a beaten person's legs and arms doesn't make you powerful or superheroic

It means midnighter is lower than an Arab extremist,

that's all.

Midnigher has the power and honor on the same level of extremist muslims who capture journalists and saw off their limbs and then post the clips on youtube

Supes got this, he can move faster than Midnighter reacts

Superman hits as hard as a locomotive, Midnighter is done after the first strike

be glad Superman actually has a little nobility and honor unlike Midnighter who has the same level of honor as an Afghan jihadist

GA Superman's not even a quarter as strong as some of the bricks Midnighter has one-shotted. He hits as hard as a locomotive? Good for him. Midnighter has killed Incubites who could toss locomotives around like toys, thrashed Hawksmoor (a guy who can chuck propane tankers and destroy tanks just by falling through them) and brought down Maul with a nerve-strike. Maul could eat the Titanic if he felt like it, forget about punching as hard as a locomotive. I haven't seen anything that indicates GA Superman can strike faster than Midnighter can react.

The rest of your post is just the empty rant of an upset troll. Not interested.

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#47 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

Midnighter owning Maul = Cap beating in hand to hand Rhino = Deathstroke beating Flash in hand to hand = utter PIS

You have heard of the concept of PIS Bane?

#48 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

All hating aside it's not always PIS when a far weaker person drops or one shots a vastly stronger opponent..daredevil dropped Hyde with one shot and he is capable of lifting 40-50 tons..with pure skill. I think midnighter could bet GA supes,,he's not nearly as impressive as his SA feats or others

#49 Posted by Saren (25569 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade said:

Midnighter owning Maul = Cap beating in hand to hand Rhino = Deathstroke beating Flash in hand to hand = utter PIS

You have heard of the concept of PIS Bane?

I'm moderately amused because you posted Assassin8 beating Midnighter with a plot device, and knowing you, you probably haven't even read the issue and were posting it as an example of an ordinary human beating Midnighter. Which would have been PIS, but I doubt that would have met with any objection from you.

Midnighter's nerve-strike against Maul is consistent. He has a track record of bringing down super-strong, super-durable opponents with his hits, whether you like it or not. Maul's strength and durability increase in accordance with his size, and at that size he probably wasn't on Majestic's level or anything like that, but he was comfortably at least 10 times stronger than GA Superman.

I suppose it's a good thing I didn't bring up Midnighter taking a kick from Sebastian, the evil Majestic, and getting up to kick him right back. I can only imagine how much pain that would have caused you.

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#50 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21359 posts) - - Show Bio

Golden age superman stomps...

If you mean action comics one superman then its pretty fair but I say supes still wins

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