#51 Posted by 202122 (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyborg

Iron Fist with chi

Luke Cage

Ms. Marvel

Red Tornado

Cassie Sandsmark

#52 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4186 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

Whoa I'm remaking my team again,

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Hulk Buster

Hyperion

Shaggy Man/General

Aquaman

I already have Iron man dude.

#53 Posted by beatboks1 (7093 posts) - - Show Bio

@DireDrill trust me @sherlock knows how to play touney's VERY well.

#54 Edited by beatboks1 (7093 posts) - - Show Bio

<p>@Backflip

Swapping. Out Tempest for Marion. He. Was my first choice but I thought him too Op but since helms a little below or at best even with Dr Fate fans SS Strange should be Ok&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Team now&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Vril Dox leader strategist ( with Silica of course)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;nuklon /Atomic smasher - brick phase r&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Arion - mage/ utility&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Brain wave Jr&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dr Occult&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Star girl&lt;/p&gt;</p>

#55 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't doubt that but there is still plenty of talent out there.

#56 Edited by beatboks1 (7093 posts) - - Show Bio

There might be but. If. They are characters he doesn't know well enough to use properly it doesn't help him. I myself am limited to less than a dozen street level characters I can effectively use in a tourney

#57 Posted by Backflip (2262 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: Yes and Yes :P

@floopay:

Alright I'll reserve you for the moment :P

Doctor Doom

Juggernaut (Classic)

Iceman

Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)

Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange

Forge.

Juggernaut is way over the strength limit. You can have current strange, but no CLASSIC. That alright?

How about..

Team Thank God For Comic Spin Offs

Miss Martian (Earth 16)- Camo Suit

Azula (ATLA)- Normal Clothing

Blue Beetle (Earth 16)- Scarab

Raven (Teen Titans)- Normal Clothing

Zatanna (Earth 16)- Normal Clothing

That seems fine I think, although are you sure you want to go the Animated route

@backflip: Im In.

Ultimate Iron Man

Man Thing

First Age Spawn (Hell king has the Time Power)

Ultimate Thor (LOL)

Ghost Rider (Blaze/Zarathos)

Ghost Rider (Ketch/Heaven on Fire)

Surely both your Ghost Riders are above the likes of Iron Man and co.. I mean, you used them in the Planetary Draft so, I need some proof that they're not way above the limit as I'm not that familiar with Ghost Rider.

Gonna mix my team up, actually:

Mirror Master

Mister Terrific

Swamp Thing

Midnighter

Reed Richards

Constantine

Don't need no storm.

The Prep team? :P But yeah, accepted

Guyver Gigantic (let me know about manga)

Emma Frost (Pre AvX)

Noh-Varr (Nega bands)

Iron Man

Dr. Fate (Hector Hall)

Blackbolt

Edit: Had to drop Zatanna

How powerful is Hector Hall? Otherwise seems fine, but might Limit Black Bolt to just a whisper, because otherwise if he screams then he might be above the limit, would that seem fair to you?

loki

blackheart

antivenom

mongul

apocylapse

blue marvel

Blackheart, Mongul, Apocalypse and Blue Marvel are all over the limit.

Magneto

Ultimate Colossus

Wolverine

Batman

Carnage

War Machine

I thought we were useing ironman power level I think ghost rider is a bit extreme

And some of the other peoples characters are too

Yeah seems fine.

@18hunt said:

Whoa I'm remaking my team again,

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Hulk Buster

Hyperion

Shaggy Man/General

Aquaman

Hyperion and Shaggy Man are over the limit.

Crap I just noticed that Backflip has Sage too. Well then perhaps I can use this team:

Joshua Coldrake

Amanda Sefton

Criti Noll Impersonating Hank Pym

Grimlock - Transformers

Leech

Moondragon

Yeah this is fine.

Archangel

Namor

Strife

Havok

Ultron

Vision

Ultron? Really :P

@202122 said:

Cyborg

Iron Fist with chi

Luke Cage

Ms. Marvel

Red Tornado

Cassie Sandsmark

Seems fine :)

#58 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip My new team:

Exiles Mimic (Wolverine, Colossus, Cyclops, Beast, Northstar)

Shroud

Spider-Woman

Warblade (Wildstorm)

Geo-Force

Jean Grey (No Phoenix)

#59 Posted by 18hunt (2893 posts) - - Show Bio

I know my team has been made five times since they keep getting stronger, I'll remake it again...

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Hulk Buster

Aquaman

The Vision

War Machine

#60 Posted by beatboks1 (7093 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip

Did I make the tourney. You haven't mentioned my team.

Might be due to that crapping formatting ( note to self don't edit from tablet on CV beta)

My team is

Leader - Vril Dox

Dr occult

Arion

Stargirl

Nuklon/Atom Smasher

Brainwave Jr

#61 Posted by Sherlock (7252 posts) - - Show Bio

@diredrill: Give me about 20 minutes and i can give you a ridiculously strong line up.From there i would need about 1-3 hours of pure research(Each character) and likely another hour to figure out issue #s so i can "share" the issues and get scans to back my claims.Unfortunately i dont have time with school on my back.So when i say im limited its merely to people i can use quickly without doing a lot of digging.

@DireDrill trust me @sherlock knows how to play touney's VERY well.

My sincerest gratitude to thee kind sir

#62 Edited by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

War machine is taken by me

#63 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6097 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman 1 million

Star fire

Steal

Black Panther current

Donna Troy

Cyborg

#64 Posted by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

Vision is over the power limit

And I've got batman so he can't be used

#65 Edited by Sovereign91001 (4186 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

From the O.P: - Only 1 iteration of each character (E.g, say @cadencev2 gets in a picks Thor (Ultimate), then no one can choose Thor (616) for example).

Now I don't know if backflip didn't notice that I already have Iron man, but the rules state only one iteration which is why I had to drop Zatanna as someone had already picked a version of her and why Cadence couldn't use ultimate Iron man.

@backflip: Hall is about as strong as modern Strange: He's not nearly as strong as the Kent Nelson version of the character which is the one I'm assuming your trying to avoid. That sounds fine for Blackbolt.

#66 Edited by Supermanwithatan01 (3595 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll trade Juggernaut for Graviton. He's well within the perameters of the battle. That makes my team Graviton, Doctor Doom (current), Nightcrawler (AoA), Forge, Iceman (FP) and since Doctor Strange is indeed Sorcerer Supreme again I agree not to use Classic. I would like to argue however that a majority of his upper level feats (like Thanos) have been done with the usage of artifacts. In short I believe his feats without said artifacts should be allowed for argument since he hasn't had much effect since he gave up his mantle of SS. Now with it back I believe he should retain his original power level. As long as I don't use feats consisting of artifacts usage, I think in order to have feats, his should be admissable.

#67 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip: Ghost Rider stat wise fits fine with Iron Man.

Durability wise he can be shredded by normal bullets!

Strength Wise he is a mere 200 Toner at BEST! IM is way over 200 tons.

Speed Wise he can travel a couple of Machs on his Bike at best.

Healing Factor wise is the same as Bone Claw Wolverine .

His Energy Projection is Way Less than iron Man.

So why do I use him in the Planet Tourney? Cause like Dr. strange he has unique powers with his Hell Fire. Also he can beat anyone no matter how powerful they are if they have a Soul.

Stats wise both Ghost Riders are Below Iron Man.

Its how you use them that makes them tough to beat.

#68 Edited by Veitha (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn it, my girl Emma has been already taken :/

@backflip: I'm going to try with this team, anyway:

1. Susan Storm;

2. Storm;

3. Exodus;

4. Namora;

5. Snowbird;

6. Black Alice.

#69 Posted by Havenless (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip: Ultron does not have strength feats on the level of Hulk or Superman, he does not have Psionic powers that rival Rachel Grey, and he has never shown to do the absolutely ridiculous stuff Vulcan did during War of Kings. So technically, he's a solid choice per your rules. I mean, if you're letting in the invincible Juggernaut or 200 Tonner Hyperion, Ultron is right at home in this tournament.

#70 Posted by nickzambuto (13331 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 @esquire Either of you willing to team up, three on each? My roster:

-Raiden

-Master Roshi

-Luffy

#71 Edited by Havenless (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt I already took Vision at the end of the first page.

@mrtrevorguy said:

Vision is over the power limit

And I've got batman so he can't be used

What power limit is Vision over?


@veitha I believe the OP took Rachel Grey on the very first team in the tournament.

#72 Edited by Veitha (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

@havenless: oh, I haven't seen that... I'll edit my team

#73 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 @esquire Either of you willing to team up, three on each? My roster:

-Raiden

-Master Roshi

-Luffy

Whats up bro? You looking for a team up?

#74 Edited by nickzambuto (13331 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: Yeah, I figured either you or Esquire. Willing to sacrifice three of your guys for me?

#75 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: @backflip:

  • Raiden
  • Master Roshi
  • Luffy

Then my Team.

  • Ultimate Thor
  • Spawn (1st/3rd Age Version)
  • Vindicare Assassin (40K)

The Assassin has shown up a few times in the 40k Comics, Games, and Novels.

#76 Edited by Juiceboks (8387 posts) - - Show Bio

Reworked my team.

Armor

Warlock

Absorbing Man

Cannonball

Jean Grey(no phoenix if its not allowed)

Beast Boy

This seem alright?

Online
#77 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: I already have Jean Grey. (Assuming my team is accepted.)

#78 Edited by Dredeuced (5473 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@cadencev2 @esquire Either of you willing to team up, three on each? My roster:

-Raiden

-Master Roshi

-Luffy

...Roshi blew up a moon.

If manga is allowed I'll be swapping my team up sometime today or tomorrow.

#79 Posted by nickzambuto (13331 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced: After taking 20 minutes to charge. And afterwards he was completely drained.

#80 Edited by Dredeuced (5473 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: More like taking five-ten seconds to charge because there was a giant ape smashing up the place and trying to kill him. You over exaggerate because of how the anime depicted it, I guess. Both Dragonball and Z tended to inflate fight scene and charge up time lengths.

I mean I'm not specifically worried about Roshi, but he's vastly, absurdly above the energy projection level considering he vaporized a moon and busts mountains pretty casually.

#81 Posted by Juiceboks (8387 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto

Yea Master Roshi's energy projection is certainly above mid tier and anything IM can dish out with his reg armor. That specific blast can arguably one shot Hulk even if it drained him. Also which Raiden?

@esquire

Alright well I'll take Cable in place of her.

Online
#82 Posted by joewell (6288 posts) - - Show Bio

Avatar Aang: End Series, Staff

Avatar Korra: No gear

Percy Jackson ( he was in a comic...once ): Riptide, Hermes's Sandals, Tyson's Shield, Chameleon Armor, and A can of Necture

Danny Phantom: End series

Ben 10,000: Full control.

James Heller: All upgrades, end game

#83 Edited by Dextersinister (5939 posts) - - Show Bio

@esquire: I would have kept Madrox nothing wrong with 2 characters that work well together when that's not against the rules especially when the lists so far have characters that are way too strong.

There's someone with Swamp Thing and Mirror Master.

Online
#84 Posted by New_World_Order (12949 posts) - - Show Bio

Seems interesting.

#85 Edited by Dredeuced (5473 posts) - - Show Bio

@esquire: I would have kept Madrox nothing wrong with 2 characters that work well together when that's not against the rules especially when the lists so far have characters that are way too strong.

There's someone with Swamp Thing and Mirror Master.

Unless my swamp thing knowledge is scarce, I don't think he even comes close to breaking any rules (unless you count his regen, but I saw Iceman soooo). Mirror Master I KNOW doesn't come close to breaking any rules, he just has very powerful and versatile tech.

That said I didn't have too much of a problem with the Madrox + Mimic aside from the fact that, depending on the Mimic, he could break the rules normally without madrox.

#86 Edited by Dextersinister (5939 posts) - - Show Bio

@dextersinister said:

@esquire: I would have kept Madrox nothing wrong with 2 characters that work well together when that's not against the rules especially when the lists so far have characters that are way too strong.

There's someone with Swamp Thing and Mirror Master.

Unless my swamp thing knowledge is scarce, I don't think he even comes close to breaking any rules (unless you count his regen, but I saw Iceman soooo). Mirror Master I KNOW doesn't come close to breaking any rules, he just has very powerful and versatile tech.

That said I didn't have too much of a problem with the Madrox + Mimic aside from the fact that, depending on the Mimic, he could break the rules normally without madrox.

I've only read a couple of the new Swamp Things and haven't seen him in action but I've seen him rated on the high end of things on some of the threads.

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#87 Posted by 18hunt (2893 posts) - - Show Bio

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Sonic

Aquaman

Crimson Dynamo

Starfire

#88 Posted by thehellspawn (3 posts) - - Show Bio

War Machine

Wolverine

Batman (Pre New-52)

Green Lantern

Reed Richards

Spawn (Al Simmons)

#89 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@thehellspawn: War Machine, Batman, Spawn, and Reed Richards have all been picked already. Green Lantern (both Kyle and Hal) has planet-busting energy attacks, you aren't going to be able to use him, I'm afraid.

#90 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@dextersinister I could have kept him, but I prefer to make broken combos that nobody complains about. My genius was noted, so my ego has been assuaged, lol. And honestly, debating for a few dozen invisible Mimics dashing around at superspeeds is a little too easy.

#91 Edited by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

Really any Power Absorber plus Mimic is way overpowered. Esquire wasn't the first person to use it but his combo is rather broken as it was first used by DedmanWalkin in this thread. Sorry to steal your thunder, Esquire. If you combine it with even the most basic of powers, you can get out of hand pretty quick. I believe before he disappeared that he was using Rogue, Madrox, Sage, Trauma, and Northstar. Beating that combo would be difficult even for mid tier.

I did not mean to offend @sherlock. I was just hoping to fill this to 16 quick so we can get started.

#92 Posted by nickzambuto (13331 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto

Yea Master Roshi's energy projection is certainly above mid tier and anything IM can dish out with his reg armor. That specific blast can arguably one shot Hulk even if it drained him. Also which Raiden?

MGS Raiden.

I can just nerf Roshi if he's too much.

#93 Edited by BataTest (295 posts) - - Show Bio

Ray Palmer

Hank Pym

Brainiac 5

Hiroim

Skaar

Caiera

#94 Edited by Dredeuced (5473 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually, I'm gonna drop out of this one. I'm in two other tournaments and this one has a really high 6 character count that would probably take too much time in debates if I stretch myself between them. Feel free to add any of my guys to your teams, sorry Backflip! Your tournament seems really popular anyhow, so I'm sure you won't miss me too much. :P

#95 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@thehellspawn: I grabbed Spawn already ;) You can have Downing lol.

#96 Edited by beatboks1 (7093 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip:

How powerful is Hector Hall?

In theory Hector is as powerful as Fate can get. But he doesn't have many feats to back it up. based on feats he's around current Strange Level So I'd say OK. About his best feat was being able to watch mostly unknown the power players of DC ( Like Spectre etc) Of course when he did that Phantom Stranger did see him watching him and closed off the view.

@backflip

Did I make the tourney. You haven't mentioned my team.

Might be due to that crapping formatting ( note to self don't edit from tablet on CV beta)

My team is

Leader - Vril Dox

Dr occult

Arion

Stargirl

Nuklon/Atom Smasher

Brainwave Jr

#97 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: Raiden is solid.

He is a 60 toner at best in strength feats.

#98 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

will come back, have to think about my team brb

#99 Edited by Backflip (2262 posts) - - Show Bio

@esquire said:

@backflip My new team:

Exiles Mimic (Wolverine, Colossus, Cyclops, Beast, Northstar)

Shroud

Spider-Woman

Warblade (Wildstorm)

Geo-Force

Jean Grey (No Phoenix)

Perfect buddy :)

@veitha said:

Damn it, my girl Emma has been already taken :/

@backflip: I'm going to try with this team, anyway:

1. Susan Storm;

2. Storm;

3. Exodus;

4. Namora;

5. Snowbird;

6. Black Alice.

Bringing representation for the Women, I like it :P

@backflip

Did I make the tourney. You haven't mentioned my team.

Might be due to that crapping formatting ( note to self don't edit from tablet on CV beta)

My team is

Leader - Vril Dox

Dr occult

Arion

Stargirl

Nuklon/Atom Smasher

Brainwave Jr

Sorry buddy I missed you first time round, but yeah looks good :)

@backflip: Ultron does not have strength feats on the level of Hulk or Superman, he does not have Psionic powers that rival Rachel Grey, and he has never shown to do the absolutely ridiculous stuff Vulcan did during War of Kings. So technically, he's a solid choice per your rules. I mean, if you're letting in the invincible Juggernaut or 200 Tonner Hyperion, Ultron is right at home in this tournament.

Thing is, I'm not letting in Juggernaut or Hyperion. Ultron is a team buster, and whilst you're right that he doesn't break the individual rules, as a general rule, he's a team buster and is actually on like Thor's level.

Reworked my team.

Armor

Warlock

Absorbing Man

Cannonball

Cable (Current?)

Beast Boy

This seem alright?

This is good

@18hunt said:

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Sonic

Aquaman

Crimson Dynamo

Starfire

Alright

@batatest said:

Ray Palmer

Hank Pym

Brainiac 5

Hiroim

Skaar

Caiera

Nice I like it :D

#100 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip: Dont forget me and @nickzambuto team.

  • Raiden
  • Master Roshi
  • Luffy

Then my Team.

  • Ultimate Thor
  • Spawn (1st/3rd Age Version)
  • Vindicare Assassin (40K)