#1 Edited by Backflip (2262 posts) - - Show Bio

Hey guys, so we've now managed to captivate both ends of the spectrum, from Street Level to Herald + with @beatboks1's tournament. Well let's give the middle ground some appreciation why don't we? We want characters that on Iron Man's level, maybe a little above, but definitely BELOW Herald level. (E.g, Yes to Captain Britain, No to Kyle Rayner)

Rules/Set Up

- Standard knock out tournament. Need 8 or 16 players (Preferably the latter)

- 6 Members per team

- Must be a Comic character (Or at least have appeared in a few issues even if they are not native to the comics e.g Luke Skywalker)

- Only 1 iteration of each character (E.g, say @cadencev2 gets in a picks Thor (Ultimate), then no one can choose Thor (616) for example)

- Strength limit - I think we'll allow a little over 100+ tons. (But don't go crazy. No one in Superman's level, but Namor/Wonder Man/Captain Britain is fine)

- Energy Manipulation - No greater than Vulcan (Might limit to a lower degree if I can find someone more appropriate)

- Psionics - Nothing above Rachel Grey/Emma Frost

- No Reality Warping/Time Manipulation

- Basically, you know what kinda power we're expecting, so judge it appropriately

- BFR might be allowed depending on scenario

- Prep will be available

- I'm going to nick an idea from Beatboks and we'll be having some form of boon for the winning team in each round.

- Also, I encourage picking teams that are compatible, team work is going to be essential at some points

Teams

Vallant

Captain Britain (w/Excalibur)

Meggan

Rachel Grey (No Phoenix)

Magik (Current)

Northstar

Sage

@youngjustice

Miss Martian (Earth 16)- Camo Suit

Raven (Teen Titans)- Standard Gear

Liberta (La Storia Della Arcana Famigla)- Standard Gear

Zatanna (Earth 16)- Standard Gear

Bulma (Dragon Ball)- Capsule Pack

Mystique

@sovereign91001

Guyver Gigantic

Emma Frost (Pre-AvX)

Noh Varr (Nega Bands)

Iron Man

Doctor Fate (Hall)

Black Bolt (Only Whisper)

@mrtrevorguy

Magneto

Colossus (Ultimate)

Wolverine

Batman

Carnage

War Machine

@diredrill

Joshua Coldrake

Amanda Sefton

Criti Noll

Grimlock

Leech

Moondragon

@havenless

Archangel

Namor

Strife

Havok

Vision

She-Hulk

@202122

Cyborg

Iron Fist

Luke Cage

Ms. Marvel

Red Tornado

Wonder Girl (Cassie Sandsmark)

@esquire

Exiles Mimic (Wolverine, Colossus, Cyclops, Beast, Northstar)

Shroud

Spider Woman

Warblade

Geo-Force

Jean Grey (No Phoenix)

@beatboks1

Vril Dox

Dr. Occult

Arion (Must rely on his own power)

Stargirl

Atom Smasher

Brainwave Jr.

@veitha

Invisible Woman

Storm

Exodus

Namora

Snowbird

Black Alice (Powers must fall in line with Limit)

@juiceboks

Armor

Warlock

Cannonball

Cable (Not Saviour)

Absorbing Man

Beast Boy

@18hunt

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Sonic

Aquaman

Crimson Dynamo

Starfire

@batatest

Ray Palmer

Hank Pym

Skaar

Caiera

Hiroim

Braniac 5

@supermanwithatan01

Dr Doom

Iceman (Not allowed to reform)

Nightcrawler (AoA)

Dr. Strange (Current)

Forge

Metamorpho

@cadencev2 and @nickzambuto

Raiden

Master Roshi (Energy limited)

Luffy

Thor (Ultimate)

Spawn

Vindicare Assassin (40K)

@thundergodswrath

Superboy (N52)

Loki

Midnighter

Dr. Light (Arthur)

Sersi

Vulcan (Without Darwin's powers)

Banned Characters

Blackheart

Mongul

Apocalypse

Blue Marvel

Juggernaut

Ultron

Graviton

Hyperion

Shaggy Man

Green Lantern (Any)

#3 Edited by Sovereign91001 (4210 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip: Is manga (not anime) alright? Technically they're comics right?

#4 Posted by Fetts (4449 posts) - - Show Bio

I might do this. We'll see. I got enough as is right now and track season just started and all.

#5 Edited by Supermanwithatan01 (3629 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Doom

Juggernaut (Classic)

Iceman

Nightcrawler (Age of Apocalypse)

Sorcerer Supreme Doctor Strange

Forge.

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#6 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20143 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip: I'm not very good at these type of powerful characters, so I'll pass.

#7 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

Aquaman, Super Skrull, Ultimate Kevin 11, Hercules, Starfire

#8 Posted by YoungJustice (6788 posts) - - Show Bio

How about..

Team Thank God For Comic Spin Offs

Miss Martian (Earth 16)- Camo Suit

Azula (ATLA)- Normal Clothing

Blue Beetle (Earth 16)- Scarab

Raven (Teen Titans)- Normal Clothing

Zatanna (Earth 16)- Normal Clothing

#9 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

Is herc too strong?

#10 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

Whoa, is my team too weak? I thought it was a lower level than juggernaut and zoom and stuff, he said iron man

#11 Edited by Sovereign91001 (4210 posts) - - Show Bio

Guyver Gigantic (let me know about manga)

Emma Frost (Pre AvX)

Noh-Varr (Nega bands)

Iron Man

Dr. Fate (Hector Hall)

Blackbolt

Edit: Had to drop Zatanna

#12 Posted by nickzambuto (13384 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip Is manga ok? Also, can I team up with another user?

#13 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

Changing my team- hulk Buster, Aquaman, Hercules, Ultimate Kevin 11, Super Skrull, Captain Marvel Junior

#14 Edited by Dredeuced (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanwithatan01 said:

Doctor Doom

Juggernaut

Iceman

Zoom

Doctor Strange

Forge.

EDIT: If I'm not allowed to use Juggernaut then substitute Nightcrawler (AOA) and if I can't use Zoom then substitute Reed Richards

OP says no Time Manipulation yet you have zoom on your team? Might want to change that, cuz without time manipulation he has 0 powers.

#15 Edited by Floopay (8721 posts) - - Show Bio

Woah, weird doing things in the new format. I'll be back later. Put me down as a definite maybe.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

#17 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3629 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanwithatan01 said:

Doctor Doom

Juggernaut

Iceman

Zoom

Doctor Strange

Forge.

EDIT: If I'm not allowed to use Juggernaut then substitute Nightcrawler (AOA) and if I can't use Zoom then substitute Reed Richards

OP says no Time Manipulation yet you have zoom on your team? Might want to change that to Reed Richards, cuz without time manipulation he has 0 powers.

See the big EDIT. I wasn't sure since Zoom is not a skyfather level character and didn't see the time manipulation ban if that was a loophole. I acknowledged the Reality one though Idk why I ignored the other. Anyways my team will be as Follows: Doom, Richards, Forge, Strange, Marko and Drake. This should suffice.

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#18 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn, Sovereign already got Noh-Varr. I was hoping to get him.

So how about:

Joshua Coldrake - Hah @esquire I got him this time.

Magik - Preferably with Phoenix powers but I'll take the normal version.

Criti Noll Impersonating Hank Pym

Grimlock - Transformers

Leech

Sage

#19 Edited by Dredeuced (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced said:

@supermanwithatan01 said:

Doctor Doom

Juggernaut

Iceman

Zoom

Doctor Strange

Forge.

EDIT: If I'm not allowed to use Juggernaut then substitute Nightcrawler (AOA) and if I can't use Zoom then substitute Reed Richards

OP says no Time Manipulation yet you have zoom on your team? Might want to change that to Reed Richards, cuz without time manipulation he has 0 powers.

See the big EDIT. I wasn't sure since Zoom is not a skyfather level character and didn't see the time manipulation ban if that was a loophole. I acknowledged the Reality one though Idk why I ignored the other. Anyways my team will be as Follows: Doom, Richards, Forge, Strange, Marko and Drake. This should suffice.

IF you're editing back in Reed I guess I'll have to change my team, oh well.

#20 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3629 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanwithatan01 said:

@dredeuced said:

@supermanwithatan01 said:

Doctor Doom

Juggernaut

Iceman

Zoom

Doctor Strange

Forge.

EDIT: If I'm not allowed to use Juggernaut then substitute Nightcrawler (AOA) and if I can't use Zoom then substitute Reed Richards

OP says no Time Manipulation yet you have zoom on your team? Might want to change that to Reed Richards, cuz without time manipulation he has 0 powers.

See the big EDIT. I wasn't sure since Zoom is not a skyfather level character and didn't see the time manipulation ban if that was a loophole. I acknowledged the Reality one though Idk why I ignored the other. Anyways my team will be as Follows: Doom, Richards, Forge, Strange, Marko and Drake. This should suffice.

IF you're editing back in Reed I guess I'll have to change my team, oh well.

Oh no, Sorry you can use Reed I'll just change mine. It's cool. New List will be:

Dr. Doom (MOD)

Forge

Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange

Iceman

Juggernaut (Classic)

and Nightcrawler (AOA)

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#21 Edited by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

Exiles Mimic (Wolverine, Colossus, Cyclops, Beast, Northstar)

Shroud

Spider-Woman

Warblade (Wildstorm)

Geo-Force

Jean Grey (No Phoenix)

#22 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

Madrox should be disallowed if you get Mimic because then you could have an army of Mimics running around.

#23 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@backflip: Im In.

Ultimate Iron Man

Man Thing

First Age Spawn (Hell king has the Time Power)

Ultimate Thor (LOL)

Ghost Rider (Blaze/Zarathos)

Ghost Rider (Ketch/Heaven on Fire)

#24 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@diredrill: It doesn't break any rules, it's just strategy. But I have other combos if people think that's too broken.

#26 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@esquire: Ultimate quicksilver? Now what do you know of Ult. Quicksilver hmmm?

#27 Posted by Dredeuced (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

Gonna mix my team up, actually:

Mirror Master

Mister Terrific

Swamp Thing

Midnighter

Reed Richards

Constantine

Don't need no storm.

#28 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: Psh, I know all the characters. He was just the first decent but not brokenly powerful speedster that came to mind. I like his feats better than 616 Quicksilver's, and Backflip already took Northstar.

#29 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

It is incredibly broken as an army of Superfast Mimics would be downright unstoppable.

#30 Edited by oceanmaster21 (7858 posts) - - Show Bio

loki

blackheart i wud only be using is physical strenght majic and tp. i promise i wont use no time manipulation from blackheart

antivenom

oceanmaster

qussar

balder

#31 Posted by Dredeuced (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn, Sovereign already got Noh-Varr. I was hoping to get him.

So how about:

Joshua Coldrake - Hah @esquire I got him this time.

Magik - Preferably with Phoenix powers but I'll take the normal version.

Criti Noll Impersonating Hank Pym

Grimlock - Transformers

Leech

Sage

OP already chose Magik

@backflip: Im In.

Ultimate Iron Man

Man Thing

First Age Spawn (Hell king has the Time Power)

Ultimate Thor (LOL)

Ghost Rider (Blaze/Zarathos)

Ghost Rider (Ketch/Heaven on Fire)

Normal Iron Man has been taken and the rules stated only 1 iteration of a character.

#32 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@diredrill: You forgot the part where you can't see them, either. Meh, I guess I'll change things up. I'm glad someone appreciates my genius, though.

#33 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@dredeuced: Im looking thru the lists. who took Iron Man?

#34 Edited by Dredeuced (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2 said:

@dredeuced: Im looking thru the lists. who took Iron Man?

Sovereign91001.

@esquire said:

@diredrill: You forgot the part where you can't see them, either. Meh, I guess I'll change things up. I'm glad someone appreciates my genius, though.

Should've tossed in Fantomex so you've also got a hundred Mimics with Misdirection, lol.

#35 Edited by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

I completely glazed over the team in the OP. Guess I'll trade out Magik for Amanda Sefton armed with Magik's Soul Sword and Armor.

Madrox even without Mimic is incredibly overpowered.

#36 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Man Thing

First Age Spawn (Hell king has the Time Power)

Ultimate Thor (LOL)

Ghost Rider (Blaze/Zarathos)

Ghost Rider (Ketch/Heaven on Fire)

Savage Hulk (Classic)

#37 Edited by beatboks1 (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

nuklon/ Atomic smasher

Doctor O cult

Star girl

Vril Dox

I'll have to think of my other 2

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#38 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

Whoa I'm remaking my team again,

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Hulk Buster

Hyperion

Shaggy Man/General

Aquaman

#39 Posted by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto

Ultimate Colossus

Wolverine

Batman

Carnage

War Machine

I thought we were useing ironman power level I think ghost rider is a bit extreme

And some of the other peoples characters are too

#40 Posted by Juiceboks (8476 posts) - - Show Bio

Chaos War Abomination

Jean Grey Phoenix Force(if not allowed then MODOK)

Etrigan

Cosmic Rulk

Gimme a minute to think of the last one.

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#41 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: Did you even read the limits? Every single character you've chosen breaks them. Etrigan is Superman-level, Abomination and Cosmic Rulk are both far too strong, and Phoenix is way above Emma Frost. Also, you get 6 characters, not just 5.

#42 Edited by Juiceboks (8476 posts) - - Show Bio

@esquire I saw someone take Classic Juggernaut and Blackheart so I didnt think Etrigan would be too far fetched. Also I wasnt sure about Phoenix Jean so I provided an alternative. Cosmic Rulk I can agree with but Blonsky is debatable. But then this is why we're here. To edit our teams wherever needed.

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#43 Posted by YoungJustice (6788 posts) - - Show Bio

If manga/anime is allowed..

Miss Martian (Earth 16)- Camo Suit

Raven (Teen Titans)- Standard Gear

Liberta (La Storia Della Arcana Famigla)- Standard Gear

Zatanna (Earth 16)- Standard Gear

Bulma (Dragon Ball)- Capsule Pack

#44 Edited by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

Almost everyone is posting characters above ironman level

Juggernaut

Ghost rider

Hercules

Cosmic Rulk

All of there's are way past the power limit

#45 Edited by beatboks1 (7142 posts) - - Show Bio

Add Brain wave Jr and Tempest ( garth) to my team

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#46 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

Crap I just noticed that Backflip has Sage too. Well then perhaps I can use this team:

Joshua Coldrake

Amanda Sefton

Criti Noll Impersonating Hank Pym

Grimlock - Transformers

Leech

Moondragon

#47 Edited by Sherlock (7255 posts) - - Show Bio

There isn't much left to pick from that I know well enough.Too many powerhouses taken already so I'm gonna have to pass

#48 Posted by DireDrill (2447 posts) - - Show Bio

It isn't about powerhouses, it is how you use them.

#49 Edited by Havenless (1334 posts) - - Show Bio

Archangel

Namor

Strife

Havok

Ultron

Vision

#50 Posted by Havenless (1334 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

Whoa I'm remaking my team again,

Super Skrull

Kevin 11000

Hulk Buster

Hyperion

Shaggy Man/General

Aquaman

Hyperion is WELL over 100+ Tons