Mewtwo vs Jean Grey

Jean

This is a very good battle. Mewtwo has to take this because a few things. Mewtwo was known to be the most powerful Pokemon of all. Of course now he isn't but he still maintains the title of the most powerful Psychic Pokemon. Since he now has two evolution forms I can only assume that Mewtwo's power levels shoot up significantly. Jean MUST have the power of the Phoenix to take down this Psychic Powerhouse.

No she doesn't, it's a common misconception that Jean needs the Phoenix to be powerful, she doesn't. Before her death she graduated to most powerful telepath on Earth even after Xavier got his powers back she was never second to him again after taking top spot. Jeans shields have tanked full bloodlusted blasts from a confirmed planet buster and then proceeded to take that planet buster down telepathically.

Jean herself is a psychic powerhouse, that frequently suffered from my morals demand I hold back syndrome, she stopped doing that when faced with the near death of her husband. She was not fighting at full capacity against the prime sentinel attack which indirectly lead to Scott being mortally wounded, she then gets pissed stops holding back and violently rips the nanotech from the PS, showing she could have stop the initial attack had she not let her morals stand in the way. She would crush Mewtwo.

jean gets blitzed!

...and that blitz hits a force field it took a guardian of the M'Kraan crystal to shatter with a sneak attack. After nothing happens she literally turns his thoughts to ash.

you're not getting it.

he disappears from the battlefield and appears right next to jean in mid strike. he has blitzed opponents before like that.

disappear then reappears while already in motion with his punch and hits the opponent before they can react or see where he is.

you're not getting it.

he disappears from the battlefield and appears right next to jean in mid strike. he has blitzed opponents before like that.

disappear then reappears while already in motion with his punch and hits the opponent before they can react or see where he is.

This^

so like a person with super speed or teleportation then..... things she has fought in the past.....

He has done that to powerless humans and fodder Pokemon that can't sense the intent of enemies in orbit, unlike Jean. Reactions are physical, Jean only needs to think. She will see him disappear and has experience with telepoters, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to think shield once their opponent vanished. Nor are you taking into account that Jean can instantly shift herself and others to the astral plane while time on the physical plane literally stops during the shift. That's how she was able to have a conversation with Beast and supercharge his powers in mid battle with no physical time passing.

So you tell me which is faster, thinking move, and physically moving while envisioning an attack with that move or just thinking die?

He has done that to powerless humans and fodder Pokemon that can't sense the intent of enemies in orbit, unlike Jean. Reactions are physical, Jean only needs to think. She will see him disappear and has experience with telepoters, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to think shield once their opponent vanished. Nor are you taking into account that Jean can instantly shift herself and others to the astral plane while time on the physical plane literally stops during the shift. That's how she was able to have a conversation with Beast and supercharge his powers in mid battle with no physical time passing.

So you tell me which is faster, thinking move, and physically moving while envisioning an attack with that move or just thinking die?

He has done that to powerless humans and fodder Pokemon that can't sense the intent of enemies in orbit, unlike Jean. Reactions are physical, Jean only needs to think. She will see him disappear and has experience with telepoters, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to think shield once their opponent vanished. Nor are you taking into account that Jean can instantly shift herself and others to the astral plane while time on the physical plane literally stops during the shift. That's how she was able to have a conversation with Beast and supercharge his powers in mid battle with no physical time passing.

So you tell me which is faster, thinking move, and physically moving while envisioning an attack with that move or just thinking die?

He has done that to powerless humans and fodder Pokemon that can't sense the intent of enemies in orbit, unlike Jean. Reactions are physical, Jean only needs to think. She will see him disappear and has experience with telepoters, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to think shield once their opponent vanished. Nor are you taking into account that Jean can instantly shift herself and others to the astral plane while time on the physical plane literally stops during the shift. That's how she was able to have a conversation with Beast and supercharge his powers in mid battle with no physical time passing.

So you tell me which is faster, thinking move, and physically moving while envisioning an attack with that move or just thinking die?

He has done that to powerless humans and fodder Pokemon that can't sense the intent of enemies in orbit, unlike Jean. Reactions are physical, Jean only needs to think. She will see him disappear and has experience with telepoters, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to think shield once their opponent vanished. Nor are you taking into account that Jean can instantly shift herself and others to the astral plane while time on the physical plane literally stops during the shift. That's how she was able to have a conversation with Beast and supercharge his powers in mid battle with no physical time passing.

So you tell me which is faster, thinking move, and physically moving while envisioning an attack with that move or just thinking die?

He has done that to powerless humans and fodder Pokemon that can't sense the intent of enemies in orbit, unlike Jean. Reactions are physical, Jean only needs to think. She will see him disappear and has experience with telepoters, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to think shield once their opponent vanished. Nor are you taking into account that Jean can instantly shift herself and others to the astral plane while time on the physical plane literally stops during the shift. That's how she was able to have a conversation with Beast and supercharge his powers in mid battle with no physical time passing.

So you tell me which is faster, thinking move, and physically moving while envisioning an attack with that move or just thinking die?

With out the Phoenix Force Jean Grey should lose but with it she stomps

@lordofallhumans: Correct for the Jean is a power house, but as I said due to his double evolution forms his psychic powers are presumably enhanced greatly. Making him an extreme threat. I really don't see Jean winning this at all.

That's the only way I see it.

@lordofallhumans: Correct for the Jean is a power house, but as I said due to his double evolution forms his psychic powers are presumably enhanced greatly. Making him an extreme threat. I really don't see Jean winning this at all.

That's the only way I see it.

Does he have any outstanding TP feats with these "double evolution forms"? If not, the level of TP he has is pure speculation and you have to go by what he has shown. What is his best TP feat? Or, if you can't think of a single one, what are his 3 best TP feats?

mewtwo stomp hard

mewtwo from what has been said already

I have a question, why do people keep bringing up his Evolution... is he allowed to use it in this battle, the op post didnt mention it..

From what I notice in battle forums. If it wasn't forbidden by the OP, it's fair game. Jean still stomps though.

How does Jean get stomped? I keep seeing it written with absolutely nothing to prove it.

I'm sorry for the confusion, I meant jean still stomps, as in she will stomp Mewtwo. Jean wins.

My bad don't know why I thought I saw the word gets...time to put this blunt down lol.

Jean.

I have a question, why do people keep bringing up his Evolution... is he allowed to use it in this battle, the op post didnt mention it..

@stormphoenix:

So no actual feats of power or skill that are above Jean's? You keep talking about stats and evolution but nothing concrete. Hell as a part of natural progression Jean evoled into the Phoenix and according to Death her true unique power is to wield it, but in this thread we are using Jean without tapping the Phoenix and need feats to established her level of power, which from what I can tell dwarfs Mewtwo by a fair amount.

Jean stomps.