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MCU (Avengers + GotG)

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  • Captain America
  • Thor
  • Iron Man (AoU armour/no hulkbuster)
  • Vision
  • Quicksilver
  • Falcon
  • Scarlet Witch
  • Hawkeye
  • Black Widow
  • Hulk
  • GotG (Drax and Star Lord)

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Non-MCU (Bastards)

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  • Toby Spider-Man
  • Bana Hulk
  • Garfield Spider-Man
  • Blade
  • The Fantastic 4
  • The Original X-Men (Cyclops, Storm, Wolverine, Jean Grey (No Phoenix))

Rules:

  1. Both teams have 1 month to train together
  2. Both teams are quickly prepped before battle
  3. Round 1 = morals on; Round 2 = morals off
  4. Standard equipment
  5. Win via KO/Retreat/Death/Incapacitation of at least 3/4 of each respective team
  6. Fight takes place in a destroyed Metropolis

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Who is Bana Hulk?

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Team 2

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#4  Edited By Raustle_al_Ghul

@hatemalingsia said:

Who is Bana Hulk?

The first Hulk that from that sub-par Ang Lee film that came out in 2003 starring Eric Bana as the lead -- about five years before the MCU reboot that starred Edward Norton.

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@hatemalingsia said:

Who is Bana Hulk?

The first Hulk that from that sub-par Ang Lee film that came out in 2003 starring Eric Bana as the lead -- about five years before the MCU reboot that starred Edward Norton.

I found this to be quite amusing. Lol. Tx.

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I am going to go with Team 2.

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Team one I think. They will have much better team work and have more raw power and versatility

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NO ONE CALLS HIM A BASTARD

and team 2 wins

spidey (tobey) can take out a lot of them on his own

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Team 1 wins both rounds.

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#14  Edited By UFT

jean. mindrape city.

also alba invisible woman with 1 month to train would be popping brains all over the place

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Team 1 easily.

Scarlet Witch handles everyone Thor doesn't solo (MAYBE Jean Grey, though she seems to suck/struggle a lot). The others being there just makes it unfair.

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@spider-manwins: Tobey lost to Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Sandman, and Venom. Deus ex machina plot saved him everytime. Iron Man, Thor, or Vision can take him and Andrew out after some effort.

Bana Hulks feats are not as impressive as MCU Hulk.

X Men can be soloed by any of the Avenger heavy hitters.

Same for the Fantastic 4.

Or Blade.

Drax is the least impressive of everyone and Peter Quill has too many random gadgets they wouldn't anticipate. Not to mention his unorthodox fighting style.

The street level Avengers are great distractions.

The problem for team 2 is that they only have 1 true heavy hitter. The Avengers have 4. Kind of unfair.

Iron Man is better at airborne fights than Stom, Or Torch.

They have no answer for Thor, Vision, or Hulk.

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@tony_shark: the way i see it, spider-man has better strength feats than widow, hawkeye, cap and iron man

better durability feat than all those as well

better agility/ reflexes than all of them and somewhat faulty spidersense

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The Bastards lose

Lol

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MCU Team

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So Thor, Hulk and Vision and to a lesser extent Tony with pointless cannon fodder

vs

Unless Jean wins it for her team with telepathy making Thor and Hulk fight Ironman and Vision, team MCU wins, and easily.

Nobody on team 2 has the offense to take out Hulk, and they would have hell trying to take out Vision, Tony, or Thor.

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Team 1 because of Thor, Vision and hulk. Maybe IM if he lives long enough for his genius mind to be put to good use

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Team 1

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Team 1 spite

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Team 1 stomp

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@spider-manwins: Strength isnt better than Iron Man nor his durability.

He was actually getting cut by blades and knocked out by Goblin granades.

Iron Man's 3rd armor tanked a tank shell with ease. That's already a better feat than anything Spider-Man has showed. Also, Spider-Man gets tagged by people much slower than him.

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Team 1 will win

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We forgetting that hulk was a certified speedster in the 2003 film as was out running helicopters, catching missiles with his hands and tanking a nuke effortlessly? Blade and spideys can take out all themselves with the exception of thor,hulk and possibly vision and ironman still granted i'd take pete over mcu ironman

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Team 1. To strong and to versatile. Team 2 doesn't have enough heavy hitters to take the win.

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may go either way

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#31  Edited By WastelandMan

Team 1.

Kinda shocked some people are saying Team 2.

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team 2. GotG are borderline non-factors. The two Spidermen can incap Thor, Bana's Hulk can hold off MCU Hulk until the rest of the team comes in for the assist. Reed can be used to trip Quicksilver, and Thing can KO him. Invisible Woman > Scarlet Witch. Human Torch can pretty much solo the rest with the HEAT OF A SUPERNOVA. Even if he can't, Blade and the X-Men are enough to win the day. Vision is the last one standing, and retreats.

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@buttersdaman000: You've given me an idea for a battle (a real one, not a rustle one) so I guess I should thank you.

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@tony_shark: getting thrown out of the sky is apparently tanking it with ease

strongest thing i remeber ironman doing is lifting that one passenger carrier in aou, which is definitely higher than what spider-man done, but doesnt go over him by much

and thats only juan feat of that. spidey has stopped a train, and carried that huge part of from dock ocks lair.

not to mention that the webs can probably incap iron man

he still has a spidey sense, better agility and reflexes.In my opinion, spider-man has better durability. he tanked many hits from a gigantic sandman, from venom, and took i believe 2 speeding trains to the face in spider-man 2. Higher pain threshold as well.

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@spider-manwins: It is when there is not a scratch on him. It obviously caught him by surprise. Spider-Man alone doesn't survive a direct hit like that. Or how about when Iron Man survived being in the Helicarrier turbine for 10 or 15 secs? That proves how durable that armor really is.

Iron Man has kicked Thor hard enough to send him flying a bit and thrown him around. Regardless, Tony mostly uses his weapons and not meele.

Spider-Man used physics intelligently to stop the train, not sheer strength. He uses multiple webs to slow down the train and it still left him useless. Otherwise, he would have stopped on his first try when he tried to put his foot on the tracks. It was going too fast and hurt his foot. Also, proof of durability that isn't as good as you think. Iron Man would have easily stopped it. Hell, he was able to push the turbine from the Helicarrier. That thing is serveral hundreds of tons heavier than a train. So, no, train feat is useless.

Faster and better reflexes than Iron Man? You bet. Inconsistent Spider Sense? Yes. Was Spider-Man still tagged by Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Hob Goblin, and Sandman? Yes. So his reflexes don't make him untaggable. Just harder to hit. And Iron Man deals hits faster and stronger than any of those villians. He isnt going to stand there and try to punch Spider-Man. He'll do what he always does. Stay in the air, use repulsors, or missiles, or blitz at mach speed. You can't seriously tell me that Spider-Man iz going to dodge everything he throws at him, including high power explosives.

Also, the webs couldn't keep Green Goblin trapped, or Doc Ock, or the Lizard. All who are much weaker than Tony. Seems to me that the webs aren't as effective as you want them to be.

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@tony_shark: iron man 3

his suits were being ripped by super strength and heat

spider-man was nearly KOD'ed from stopping the train due to him getting hit in the face by 2 trains

Dock Ock either, had super strngth as well, or spider-man was pulling his punches tremendously

iron man struggled with a van

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@spider-manwins: Iron Man 3 was the worst lowball ever.

Either way, AoU redeemed Iron Man.

Spider-Man waa never hit in the face by two trains?

And you still didn't adress the webbing stuff, or him being terrible against aerial apponents, or all his opponents killing themselves.

Either way, Spider-Man makes no difference against him or Thor or Vision or Hulk.

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@tony_shark: spider-man > cap, hawkeye, black widow, and possibly even quicksilver

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How they gonna handle vision, hulk, thor and SW?

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poor bastards... LMAO

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#41  Edited By GraniteSoldier

Vision, Thor, Hulk, and the Witch go to work.

Cap gives them orders. Then realizes they don't need them.

Hawkeye and Widow hang out with Hawk's family at his farm.

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Team 2

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non-mcu

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@spider-manwins: I do not disagree with that at all. I'll even give you Quicksilver since he's less experienced and his durability isn't the best.

However,

Thor, Hulk, Vision, And Iron Man > Spider-Man (Tobey or Garfield).

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Assuming Fantastic 4 is without Silver Surfer Team 1 stomp all over them.

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I actually think team two would win.

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Also, Scarlet Witch is so overrated. She couldn't even sneak up on Hawkeye, how she sneaks up on others won't make sense. Plus she needs to be close to someone, try getting close to Wolverine and she'll die.

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team 1 both rounds thor hulk quicksilver scarlet witch and drax

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@tony_shark: of course those can beat him

but the thing is that spider-man, considering his speed and agility has a better chance of taking out the ones i said, before thor or hulk takes out spider-man

not to mention andrew spidey is WAY faster, although weaker than tobey

imo tobey and andrew can take iron man

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@pyrogram: Actually she can mind control masses of people at once, so I don't really see why she doesn't just make team two fight each other...