Captain America vs Deathlok
Start 50m apart and fighting on top of a helicarrier.
Round 1
Morals on, H2H only.
Round 2
Morals on, Standard equipment.
Captain America vs Deathlok
Start 50m apart and fighting on top of a helicarrier.
Round 1
Morals on, H2H only.
Round 2
Morals on, Standard equipment.
Cap throws a motorcycle into him.
Cap.
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Yeah I love MCU fights.
@super_mod: Yeah same, they're really what drew me to the vine
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The Battles Forum seems to be the main draw for what I perceive to be most new users. I know that it's what made me wanna join as well.
I think Cap takes it in H2H, but with standard gear, maybe Mike could take him. Cap's never really taken on a full-blown cyborg before. No, Winter Soldier is not a cyborg. He just has a metal arm. He doesn't have the upgrades Mike has. Plus, neither of them want to kill each other. R1, Cap easily. R2, Mike with fair difficulty.
Not seeing how Cap wins this, I feel like most people just don't watch Agents of SHIELD. Deathlok is a straight up cyborg, with metal under all of his skin, built in missile launchers, is bulletproof, and can survive being in the middle of huge explosions. He can brick walls by sticking his fingers into them as well, and that was before becoming a cyborg. I do not think Cap can hurt him. He is more skilled, but that is really the only clear advantage he has.
Not seeing how Cap wins this, I feel like most people just don't watch Agents of SHIELD. Deathlok is a straight up cyborg, with metal under all of his skin, built in missile launchers, is bulletproof, and can survive being in the middle of huge explosions. He can brick walls by sticking his fingers into them as well, and that was before becoming a cyborg. I do not think Cap can hurt him. He is more skilled, but that is really the only clear advantage he has.
Uuhh...per his shield training, Cap is physically above him. He doesn't have metal under all of his skin, he has under skin enhancements, sure, but it's technology laced through, not simply armor plating. You're confusing the intention. In the actual scene they mention his Hydra enhancements, you see a diagram of it up on Simmons' screen.
Not seeing how Cap wins this, I feel like most people just don't watch Agents of SHIELD. Deathlok is a straight up cyborg, with metal under all of his skin, built in missile launchers, is bulletproof, and can survive being in the middle of huge explosions. He can brick walls by sticking his fingers into them as well, and that was before becoming a cyborg. I do not think Cap can hurt him. He is more skilled, but that is really the only clear advantage he has.
Uuhh...per his shield training, Cap is physically above him. He doesn't have metal under all of his skin, he has under skin enhancements, sure, but it's technology laced through, not simply armor plating. You're confusing the intention. In the actual scene they mention his Hydra enhancements, you see a diagram of it up on Simmons' screen.
All we know is that Cap can push that bulldozer faster than him. Deathlok's actual feats are overall superior. I am not exactly sure about his the specific details of what is under his skin, but bullets don't affect him, and he does have an entirely prosthetic leg.
Deathlok was flying around in the last episode. His agility and acrobatics were incredible. I don't think cap can last long.
Steve takes R1, solidly. He's probably stronger on some categories based on that statement of comparison between them during Deathlok's training. Mike is far more durable, but it's not going to close the larger skill gap. Eventually, Peterson gets pinned and beaten the sht out of him.
R2 goes to Deathlok in a good fight. Steve's shield is going to help, but it's way too much firepower to deal with. Cap's fight with Ultron is noteworthy here.
Can anyone remind me what it was that Mike used to threaten Skye by making Ward have a heart attack?
@anthp2000: It was a disk-like projectile that he could shoot out. Once it hit its target it could stop their heart on command.
Captain america, both rounds. He is stronger than Deathlok, and better skilled. He is also very good at improvising and quick and successful thinking.
@rbt: a pushing feat isn’t enough to take cap down. Mike needs more than that. Since IRL humans can achieve the feat (not as fast, but still).
I’d say curling a 2-3 ton helicopter would be harder to do than pushing a 58 ton bulldozer. As pulling and Pushing aren’t the same thing, and pulling strength is usually better.
Steve stomps in R1 loses R2
@rbt: a pushing feat isn’t enough to take cap down. Mike needs more than that. Since IRL humans can achieve the feat (not as fast, but still).
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@rbt: a pushing feat isn’t enough to take cap down. Mike needs more than that. Since IRL humans can achieve the feat (not as fast, but still).
I’d say curling a 2-3 ton helicopter would be harder to do than pushing a 58 ton bulldozer. As pulling and Pushing aren’t the same thing, and pulling strength is usually better.
Steve stomps in R1 loses R2
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@rbt: a pushing feat isn’t enough to take cap down. Mike needs more than that. Since IRL humans can achieve the feat (not as fast, but still).
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IRL humans can pull airplanes/trucks, though they're doing it on smooth, flat surfaces with wheels to assist them.
@rbt: you’re welcome.
@rbt: but on a serious note. Striking isn’t the same as pushing. This is obvious. And pulling>pushing.
you need to give me a striking feat, pushing isn’t always relevant in a fight. You’d know that if you‘ve been in a fight. I’ve been in a ring before. You haven’t.
@rbt: a pushing feat isn’t enough to take cap down. Mike needs more than that. Since IRL humans can achieve the feat (not as fast, but still).
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IRL humans can pull airplanes/trucks, though they're doing it on smooth, flat surfaces with wheels to assist them.
You mean Helicopters, right?
This is over/around 100 tons.
@avengergamer676: humans actually can pull airplanes on wheels.
@rbt: but on a serious note. Striking isn’t the same as pushing. This is obvious. And pulling>pushing.
you need to give me a striking feat, pushing isn’t always relevant in a fight. You’d know that if you‘ve been in a fight. I’ve been in a ring before. You haven’t.
We've got a badass average viner over here.
@rbt:
Lol apparently a 2-3ton feat is superior to a 30-40ton feat on comicvine.
Unless pple scale Cap from him based on that offhand statement then Cap is dying.
Lol apparently a 2-3ton feat is superior to a 30-40ton feat on comicvine.
Indeed. Pulling>>>>Pushing, didn't you know? Also that guy has been in a ring. He obviously knows what he's talking about.
Unless pple scale Cap from him based on that offhand statement then Cap is dying.
That's the last crutch of Cap fanboys. First they will try to prove how helicopter feat>bulldozer feat, fail and then fall back to the statement. Because we all know a non reliable statement from a non named character from a non canon show >>>>> WoG from Russos.
@rbt:
I was discussing with kk88 and he seriously suggested that you can scale mcu Spiderman to mcu hulk, Thanos and Thor and I just ended the debate.
IIRC it was also a mcu Cap thread where I suggested you can't scale cap to Spiderman based on their airport scene and he said Cap can replicate every feat Peter performed in CW since Steve was able to pull Peter towards himself.
Point is, People love wanking mcu Cap.
@rbt:
I was discussing with kk88 and he seriously suggested that you can scale mcu Spiderman to mcu hulk, Thanos and Thor and I just ended the debate.
IIRC it was also a mcu Cap thread where I suggested you can't scale cap to Spiderman based on their airport scene and he said Cap can replicate every feat Peter performed in CW since Steve was able to pull Peter towards himself.
Point is, People love wanking mcu Cap.
I really wish this surprised me, but it really doesn't. Its sometimes weird, but mostly funny, trying to see them scale Cap to anyone and anythingm hoping something would stick.
@rbt:
I was discussing with kk88 and he seriously suggested that you can scale mcu Spiderman to mcu hulk, Thanos and Thor and I just ended the debate.
IIRC it was also a mcu Cap thread where I suggested you can't scale cap to Spiderman based on their airport scene and he said Cap can replicate every feat Peter performed in CW since Steve was able to pull Peter towards himself.
Point is, People love wanking mcu Cap.
I really wish this surprised me, but it really doesn't. Its sometimes weird, but mostly funny, trying to see them scale Cap to anyone and anythingm hoping something would stick.
*in that specific film (IW/EG) because Spider-Man, according to the Russos was like a mini-Hulk
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