MCU Daredevil/Kingpin vs. Adrenaline Hit-Girl/Frank D'Amico

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  • Weapons: Matt gets his batons and Mindy gets her naginata but Fisk and D'Amico are unarmed.
  • No red suit feats.
  • No prep
  • Matt's morals are off but everyone else is in character.
  • The fight takes place in the Motherfucker's hideout.
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#3 Lunacyde  Moderator

DD and Fisk

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I'm very tempted to say Mindy solos.

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#5 Lunacyde  Moderator

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I'm very tempted to say Mindy solos.

She better because D'Amico is a non-factor.

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Unless Adrenaline makes Mindy a reality warper*, she doesn't take it.

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@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

I'm very tempted to say Mindy solos.

She better because D'Amico is a non-factor.

I need to watch the new DD series before commmenting, but I will say that D'Amico is probably a non-factor if Fisk is anything like his comic counter part.

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#9  Edited By RBT

Unless Adrenaline makes Mindy a reality warper*, she doesn't take it.

It makes her a speedster. Close enough.

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@rbt said:

@risingbean said:

Unless Adrenaline makes Mindy a reality warper*, she doesn't take it.

It makes her a speedster. Close enough.

I wouldn't go that far.

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@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

I'm very tempted to say Mindy solos.

She better because D'Amico is a non-factor.

He is if he has a RPG.

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@keehn93 said:

@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

I'm very tempted to say Mindy solos.

She better because D'Amico is a non-factor.

He is if he has a RPG.

Read the OP, he's unarmed.

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@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

@risingbean said:

Unless Adrenaline makes Mindy a reality warper*, she doesn't take it.

It makes her a speedster. Close enough.

I wouldn't go that far.

Me either. It seemed to me that the audience also got a hit of adrenaline when Mindy took it and we see things from her now jacked up on drugs point of view, where she feels like she is the Flash.

Either that or adrenaline in the Kickass universe =toonforce

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@lunacyde said:

@keehn93 said:

@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

I'm very tempted to say Mindy solos.

She better because D'Amico is a non-factor.

He is if he has a RPG.

Read the OP, he's unarmed.

Well then Fisk & Matt stomp hard then.

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@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

@risingbean said:

Unless Adrenaline makes Mindy a reality warper*, she doesn't take it.

It makes her a speedster. Close enough.

I wouldn't go that far.

Me either. It seemed to me that the audience also got a hit of adrenaline when Mindy took it and we see things from her now jacked up on drugs point of view, where she feels like she is the Flash.

Either that or adrenaline in the Kickass universe =toonforce

Do you know what a speedster is? Any person who can perform at speed faster than a peak human. Mindy was moving so fast everything else seemed slowed down. So yes, the final resort does makes her a speedster.

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@keehn93: You remember Mindy's fight with Mother Russia, right?

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@rbt: It doesn't make her a speedster, it just makes time seem dilated to her perceptions. Matt actually showed that a time or two when he was dodging bullets and when trying not to get cut with a knife. He doesn't seem to do it as often when facing people in hand to hand, though.

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@rbt said:

@risingbean said:

@lunacyde said:

@rbt said:

@risingbean said:

Unless Adrenaline makes Mindy a reality warper*, she doesn't take it.

It makes her a speedster. Close enough.

I wouldn't go that far.

Me either. It seemed to me that the audience also got a hit of adrenaline when Mindy took it and we see things from her now jacked up on drugs point of view, where she feels like she is the Flash.

Either that or adrenaline in the Kickass universe =toonforce

Do you know what a speedster is? Any person who can perform at speed faster than a peak human. Mindy was moving so fast everything else seemed slowed down. So yes, the final resort does makes her a speedster.

By that definition Storm Shadow is a speedster

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@rbt: 2 on 1 is a stomp dude. She is also unarmed. No weapons. Her best feats are with weapons.

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@keehn93 said:

@rbt: 2 on 1 is a stomp dude. She is also unarmed. No weapons. Her best feats are with weapons.

She has her naginata.

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@rbt: It doesn't make her a speedster, it just makes time seem dilated to her perceptions. Matt actually showed that a time or two when he was dodging bullets and when trying not to get cut with a knife. He doesn't seem to do it as often when facing people in hand to hand, though.

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It wasn't just to her perception. Mother Russia was completely frozen while Mindy was dancing all around her. Don't see why she can't do same to both Matt and Wilson. Not to mention her durability. Even without last resort, she can take much more damage than the team can dish out.

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#22  Edited By RBT

@lunacyde: I have no idea who he is. But if he can move and perform normal tasks faster than a peak human, then he is a speedster. You don't have to hit Mach speeds to be one.

@keehn93:

2 on 1 is a stomp dude. She is also unarmed. No weapons. Her best feats are with weapons.

She has her naginata. And like I said, her durability and speed is too much.

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@rbt said:

@lunacyde: I have no idea who he is. But if he can move and perform normal tasks faster than a peak human, then he is a speedster. You don't have to hit Mach speeds to be one.

Okay then, i wasn't aware people like Spider-Man were considered speedsters...

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i wana say kick ass team but ik marvel team stands great chance

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Mindy solos in an ungodly murder stomp.

You people need to see last resort Hit-Girl fight again, because you don't remember how fast she was.

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Mindy solos in an ungodly murder stomp.

You people need to see last resort Hit-Girl fight again, because you don't remember how fast she was.

You know, Hit-Girl probably does solo really.

I just hated that adrenaline bullsh*t so much, it was so stupid. That and the S-I-C stick.

I hated Kick-Ass 2.

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Hit-Girl solos speed blitz kills them with their own finger stomps.

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@thecomedian_ said:

Mindy solos in an ungodly murder stomp.

You people need to see last resort Hit-Girl fight again, because you don't remember how fast she was.

You know, Hit-Girl probably does solo really.

I just hated that adrenaline bullsh*t so much, it was so stupid. That and the S-I-C stick.

I hated Kick-Ass 2.

Same, dude.

Kick Ass 2, to me, had potential, but there was a lot of stupid shit in it. The sic stick and last resort were two of those things. This movie would have been so much better had the exact same people who made the first movie returned to work on the second.

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@rogueshadow said:

@thecomedian_ said:

Mindy solos in an ungodly murder stomp.

You people need to see last resort Hit-Girl fight again, because you don't remember how fast she was.

You know, Hit-Girl probably does solo really.

I just hated that adrenaline bullsh*t so much, it was so stupid. That and the S-I-C stick.

I hated Kick-Ass 2.

Same, dude.

Kick Ass 2, to me, had potential, but there was a lot of stupid shit in it. The sic stick and last resort were two of those things. This movie would have been so much better had the exact same people who made the first movie returned to work on the second.

Somewhere in there, there was a good film, it just got bogged down in bullsh*t. Iron Man 3 and TASM2 were the same, they always feel the need to go bigger and start jazz handsing it in the sequel. Usually though bigger just equals dumber.

Yeah, Wadlow tried to Vaughn it... but he just couldn't. In a way I feel sorry for him because I don't think anybody could have hit that tone the way Vaughn did.

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@thecomedian_ said:

@rogueshadow said:

@thecomedian_ said:

Mindy solos in an ungodly murder stomp.

You people need to see last resort Hit-Girl fight again, because you don't remember how fast she was.

You know, Hit-Girl probably does solo really.

I just hated that adrenaline bullsh*t so much, it was so stupid. That and the S-I-C stick.

I hated Kick-Ass 2.

Same, dude.

Kick Ass 2, to me, had potential, but there was a lot of stupid shit in it. The sic stick and last resort were two of those things. This movie would have been so much better had the exact same people who made the first movie returned to work on the second.

Somewhere in there, there was a good film, it just got bogged down in bullsh*t. Iron Man 3 and TASM2 were the same, they always feel the need to go bigger and start jazz handsing it in the sequel. Usually though bigger just equals dumber.

Yeah, Wadlow tried to Vaughn it... but he just couldn't. In a way I feel sorry for him because I don't think anybody could have hit that tone the way Vaughn did.

Agreed.

I haven't seen IM3 or TASM2, though, but I've heard enough to know what you're talking about.

And yeah, you're right. He would have had to have been the guy to make it or else it wouldn't have felt the same, which it, obviously, didn't.

I doubt they're going to make a Kick-Ass 3, but if they were going to, I'd hope that Matthew would be there to bring it to life.

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Dd and fisk. Fisk can just squish her head.

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Dd and fisk. Fisk can just squish her head.

You think either of them is fast enough to touch her?

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Marvel...maybe...it could go either way

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@thecomedian_: maybe not but they both have incredible damage soak. Where as she will go down a lot quicker. The drug doesnt last forever

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@thecomedian_: maybe not but they both have incredible damage soak. Where as she will go down a lot quicker. The drug doesnt last forever

She has better durability feats than either Matt or Fisk. Off adrenaline.

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#37  Edited By Deranged Midget

Matt's durability feats make Hit Girl's seem like a paper cut.

DD and Kingpin win this.

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@rbt: not even close. What has she tanked that trumps matt and fisk

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@rbt: not even close. What has she tanked that trumps matt and fisk

Mother Russia's hits. She is on or at least close to Steve in striking power and yet Mindy was tanking herhits. On adrenaline, she was not even feeling those punches.

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@rbt said:

@nerdchore said:

@rbt: not even close. What has she tanked that trumps matt and fisk

Mother Russia's hits. She is on or at least close to Steve in striking power and yet Mindy was tanking herhits. On adrenaline, she was not even feeling those punches.

What puts her in Steve's striking league? I haven't seen K-A2 in a while so I could be forgetting, but I don't remember her having a striking feat that good.

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@rbt said:

@nerdchore said:

@rbt: not even close. What has she tanked that trumps matt and fisk

Mother Russia's hits. She is on or at least close to Steve in striking power and yet Mindy was tanking herhits. On adrenaline, she was not even feeling those punches.

What puts her in Steve's striking league? I haven't seen K-A2 in a while so I could be forgetting, but I don't remember her having a striking feat that good.

IIRC, she sent Mindy flying more than once during their fight.

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@rbt said:

@rogueshadow said:

@rbt said:

@nerdchore said:

@rbt: not even close. What has she tanked that trumps matt and fisk

Mother Russia's hits. She is on or at least close to Steve in striking power and yet Mindy was tanking herhits. On adrenaline, she was not even feeling those punches.

What puts her in Steve's striking league? I haven't seen K-A2 in a while so I could be forgetting, but I don't remember her having a striking feat that good.

IIRC, she sent Mindy flying more than once during their fight.

And didn't she, like, rip a car door out with her bare hands?

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@rbt said:

@rogueshadow said:

@rbt said:

@nerdchore said:

@rbt: not even close. What has she tanked that trumps matt and fisk

Mother Russia's hits. She is on or at least close to Steve in striking power and yet Mindy was tanking herhits. On adrenaline, she was not even feeling those punches.

What puts her in Steve's striking league? I haven't seen K-A2 in a while so I could be forgetting, but I don't remember her having a striking feat that good.

IIRC, she sent Mindy flying more than once during their fight.

And didn't she, like, rip a car door out with her bare hands?

That too.

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@thecomedian_: maybe not but they both have incredible damage soak. Where as she will go down a lot quicker. The drug doesnt last forever

Matt's durability feats make Hit Girl's seem like a paper cut.

DD and Kingpin win this.

She moves faster than they can even imagine and she has her naginata.

How could you think she loses this? Daredevil's durability doesn't extend to getting stabbed a gazillion times before he even appears to move.

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@rbt said:

@super_mod said:

@rbt said:

@rogueshadow said:

@rbt said:

@nerdchore said:

@rbt: not even close. What has she tanked that trumps matt and fisk

Mother Russia's hits. She is on or at least close to Steve in striking power and yet Mindy was tanking herhits. On adrenaline, she was not even feeling those punches.

What puts her in Steve's striking league? I haven't seen K-A2 in a while so I could be forgetting, but I don't remember her having a striking feat that good.

IIRC, she sent Mindy flying more than once during their fight.

And didn't she, like, rip a car door out with her bare hands?

That too.

Is it on this level though?

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@thecomedian_: we dont know how matt will react to mindy. he might get some hits off.

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#48  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

@rbt: Cool, I didn't remember something on that level.

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Mindy solos.