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Harvey can shoot him. Crane can dose him. Steve won't go for them first when Batman is standing there.
But, Steve wins. Because f**k logic, that's why.
MCU wanking is turning into full blown orgy.
Yes, because its not like steve hasn't blocked bullets before. Crane doses him before or after steve decapitates him with a shield toss? Bruce is a nonfactor.
And statements like this are why I cannot even take you seriously. A guy who shrugged of a 100m drop while on fire and overpowered a guy whose punches can shatter concrete is not a non factor.
What so you're not using the 400 foot fall from a skyscraper feat? What's the matter, I thought that was your go to for Batman's durability?
And I hope you're not trying to pass the fall in Batman Begins off as 100 meters. You realise 100 meters is over 30 stories? Are you trying to say that the building fell from in the Narrows scene is 30 stories and Batman fell from the top floor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkFWH7-2c7I&spfreload=10
This is what a 30 story building looks like. I hope you're not trying to pass the building Batman fell off in that scene off as 100 meters (30 stories). It's 5 stories (15 meters) at the absolute maximum and that's being generous, it seems more likely to be 4 stories counting the number of floors that he passes, which is still very impressive. But 100 meters is a massive stretch. Are you saying that the random apartment building in the Narrows is as tall as a skyscraper?
Yes, I know you'll say "but it took him 5 seconds to fall" and yes, a fall of five seconds for an average man means a fall of about 366 feet.
But it's pretty clear Nolan makes use of cinematic time and uses slow motion (from 1:19 to 1:22 specifically) in the scene as well as showing the fall from multiple angles. Not only that, you can clearly see the number of windows he passes, which is very much less than 30 windows. All in all, he fell 50 feet at max. I'm not trying to say the feat isn't impressive, a 50 foot fall while on fire is freaking insane and should definitely show that he won't be one shotted. But 50 feet and 300 feet are very different things.
And yes, I know, you'll probably say "Oooooh, you're just lowballing this feat again". But think about what you're saying. You're saying that the building Batman fell from was 30 stories tall and the size of a skyscraper. Use your eyes. Use your common sense.
Oh wait, but OF COURSE they would have skyscrapers in the Narrows. Of COURSE Batman fell out of a 36 story building in that scene which for some reason only had four or five windows! I mean, any 8th grade science text book will agree with you! I mean, it doesn't matter that it clearly isn't even close to a quarter of that height, nor does it make sense for their to be a skyscraper in that neighbourhood, but f*ck it!
Because Nolan doesn't CARE about logic does he? As you said, f*ck logic, right? Let's look at the skyscraper fall later in TDK! He fell for about 12 seconds, so that must mean Batman fell 1,482 feet! That's over 450 meters! That means the height Batman fell from in TDK is taller than the Empire State Building! Bruce's penthouse apartment is significantly taller than the Empire State Building and almost as tall as the World Trade Centre! Because that makes sense, right? Because according to you, Batman can fall nearly 500 meters without his cape and land completely uninjured with no damage to himself or the surface he lands on!
F*ck logic, right?
Come on.
But knowing you, you'll probably try to run away from this argument as well.
Steve ragdolls people with his attacks, something Bane can't do or achieve.
This is one of the worst logic I always see coming from MCU fans. Bane doesn't need to sent people flying to prove he can hit hard. Especially when he has a feat that puts him close to Steve. Superman level character fight in the comics all the time without sending each other flying.
Red Skull, who had same enhancements as Cap, at best dented steel. Bane punched a hole in concrete.
@randomsid said:
Harvey can shoot him. Crane can dose him. Steve won't go for them first when Batman is standing there.
But, Steve wins. Because f**k logic, that's why.
MCU wanking is turning into full blown orgy.
Yes, he can shoot a guy that regularly dodges and blocks bullets with his shield, great logic there.
And yet I remember Cap being shot multiple times in WS. Bucky had no extraordinary marksmanship feats either(with a handgun). And Cap was aim blocking. Nothing says that he can block a bullet that's not aimed at his torso.
What so you're not using the 400 foot fall from a skyscraper feat? What's the matter, I thought that was your go to for Batman's durability?
Don't worry. I was going to. But thanks for reminding me anyway.
Bruce survived a 400 ft fall.
And I hope you're not trying to pass the fall in Batman Begins off as 100 meters. You realise 100 meters is over 30 stories? Are you trying to say that the building fell from in the Narrows scene is 30 stories and Batman fell from the top floor
Did you see a floor number mentioned somewhere in the building Bruce fell from? Cause I didn't. What I saw was Bruce falling for 5 seconds, then taking forever to grapple to roof of building which was not even the tallest building in area.
Btw,
s=ut+1/2 at^2. Go nuts.
But knowing you, you'll probably try to run away from this argument as well.
Nah. I only skip arguments which are way too stupid and don't even deserve a reply. You've been falling a lot under that category.
And didn't you say Cap jumping from 50 ft and simply walking away was one of his best feats? Bruce replicated(and then some more) that feat while he was drugged, was lit on fire and didn't have luxury to do a roll to avoid injury. And walked away without any physical injury.
This is one of the worst logic I always see coming from MCU fans. Bane doesn't need to sent people flying to prove he can hit hard. Especially when he has a feat that puts him close to Steve. Superman level character fight in the comics all the time without sending each other flying.
Red Skull, who had same enhancements as Cap, at best dented steel. Bane punched a hole in concrete.
Superman level characters hit each other all the time with that level of force and manage to avoid being sent flying because of similar strength levels. When Superman hits humans, they get sent flying. Just like when Cap hits humans with moderate force.
And yet I remember Cap being shot multiple times in WS. Bucky had no extraordinary marksmanship feats either(with a handgun). And Cap was aim blocking. Nothing says that he can block a bullet that's not aimed at his torso.
He managed to tag a sprinting Natasha on a crowded street through the window of a car.
Don't worry. I was going to. But thanks for reminding me anyway.
So you're not running away this time? Good.
Did you see a floor number mentioned somewhere in the building Bruce fell from? Cause I didn't. What I saw was Bruce falling for 5 seconds, then taking forever to grapple to roof of building which was not even the tallest building in area.
Btw,
s=ut+1/2 at^2. Go nuts.
From my previous post:
This is what a 30 story building looks like. I hope you're not trying to pass the building Batman fell off in that scene off as 100 meters (30 stories). It's 5 stories (15 meters) at the absolute maximum and that's being generous, it seems more likely to be 4 stories counting the number of floors that he passes, which is still very impressive. But 100 meters is a massive stretch. Are you saying that the random apartment building in the Narrows is as tall as a skyscraper?
Yes, I know you'll say "but it took him 5 seconds to fall" and yes, a fall of five seconds for an average man means a fall of about 366 feet.
But it's pretty clear Nolan makes use of cinematic time and uses slow motion (from 1:19 to 1:22 specifically) in the scene as well as showing the fall from multiple angles. Not only that, you can clearly see the number of windows he passes, which is very much less than 30 windows. All in all, he fell 50 feet at max. I'm not trying to say the feat isn't impressive, a 50 foot fall while on fire is freaking insane and should definitely show that he won't be one shotted. But 50 feet and 300 feet are very different things.
And yes, I know, you'll probably say "Oooooh, you're just lowballing this feat again". But think about what you're saying. You're saying that the building Batman fell from was 30 stories tall and the size of a skyscraper. Use your eyes. Use your common sense.
Oh wait, but OF COURSE they would have skyscrapers in the Narrows. Of COURSE Batman fell out of a 36 story building in that scene which for some reason only had four or five windows! I mean, any 8th grade science text book will agree with you! I mean, it doesn't matter that it clearly isn't even close to a quarter of that height, nor does it make sense for their to be a skyscraper in that neighbourhood, but f*ck it!
Because Nolan doesn't CARE about logic does he? As you said, f*ck logic, right? Let's look at the skyscraper fall later in TDK! He fell for about 12 seconds, so that must mean Batman fell 1,482 feet! That's over 450 meters! That means the height Batman fell from in TDK is taller than the Empire State Building! Bruce's penthouse apartment is significantly taller than the Empire State Building and almost as tall as the World Trade Centre! Because that makes sense, right? Because according to you, Batman can fall nearly 500 meters without his cape and land completely uninjured with no damage to himself or the surface he lands on!
F*ck logic, right?
Come on.
Nah. I only skip arguments which are way too stupid and don't even deserve a reply. You've been falling a lot under that category.
Again, you're simply sticking your fingers in your ears and hoping the argument goes away. You haven't pointed out what is "way too stupid" about my arguments. You're being utterly ridiculous and it's baffling that you don't see that.
And didn't you say Cap jumping from 50 ft and simply walking away was one of his best feats? Bruce replicated(and then some more) that feat while he was drugged, was lit on fire and didn't have luxury to do a roll to avoid injury. And walked away without any physical injury.
If you're using your logic, then the fall from one helicarrier to another was 257 feet and the fall from the Triskellion was 652 feet. But who's counting?
Btw,
s=ut+1/2 at^2. Go nuts.
Yes, let's apply this scientific logic, shall we? Even though you've been so determined to ignore it so many times.
Let's say Bruce's fall in Batman begins was 366 feet. That means the building he fell from was 30 stories, right?
Let's say that the building he fell from is SOMEHOW this tall.
Now let's apply that science. At a fall from that height, he'd be falling at around 85 MPH. That means that a weight of over 200 pounds falling at 85 MPH can't break the roof of a taxi or break its windows.
Fair enough.
Now let's go even further and apply it to the fall in TDK.
He fell for 12 seconds in TDK from the penthouse so that's about 1,483 feet or 452 meters. That means the penthouse apartment was significantly taller than the Empire State Building (even including the tip, which stretches it to 443 meters).
So that means that Batman without his cape was able to survive falling off a height greater than the very tip of the Empire State Building. Not only that, Batman with over 100 extra pounds of weight falling at 120 miles per hour by that point, doesn't have the required force to dent the roof of a taxi, or shatter the windows.
Fair enough.
Now, utter ridiculousness aside:
Let me ask you a few questions which I want you to answer.
1) Do you honestly believe that the building Batman fell from in Batman Begins is 30 stories?
2) Do you honestly believe that Wayne's apartment complex is taller than the Empire State Building?
3) Do you honestly believe that Wayne can fall off a building much taller than the Empire State Building and land completely uninjured?
4) Since you seemed to determined to apply science to these feats even when you selectively ignored science before, do you honestly believe that a 300 pound weight falling from a height of almost 500 meters at a speed of over 120 miles per hour would fail to leave a single dent on the roof of a car and fail to break the windows?
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