Maxima vs Martian Manhunter
Maxima
vs
Martian Manhunter
This one is quite simple. Maxima wants John to be her mate and isn't going to take no for an answer. John respectfully declines her generous offer and she takes it as a sign of great disrespect. Naturally, a battle ensues and these 2 DC powerhouses square off.
Fight takes place on the Moon.
Martian Manhunter. As far as telepathy goes, I think they are equals. As far as a physical fight goes, they are both on par with Superman in strength. However, Martian Manhunter has the advantage due to his intangibility.
" @Static Shock said:" Martian Manhunter. As far as telepathy goes, I think they are equals. "Really? Maxima is that good? "
No. I don't think Maxima is at J'onn's level wiith telepathy in terms of strength and use. She is portrayed as having used more abilities with it though (astral combat, hypnotic paralysis, mind bolts).
She might be.... her profile says that she has a lot of mental defense (when braniac elevated his telepathic powers to cosmic levels Maxima was able to resist becoming his slave), she also has mind control powers (J'onn can do this too).
But J'onn is said to be the most powerful telepath on earth and even affected the Spectre with his telepathy, Aquaman says MM is a powerful telepath even among other Martians............ and after reading his profile i think his mind is far more powerful than Maxima's.
But that's just opinion.
I believe so. Apart from Martian Manhunter using his telepathy on people like the Spectre (who was unconscious when he did it), I don't think she needs something of that nature to be able to measure up with him. On top of that, Maxima's telepathy is better tailored for combat (because she uses it a lot in battle). Her telekinesis is quite powerful as well, having been able to shift continental plates with it even when she was weaken. Then there was the time she used her mind to create at psionic highway to provide intergalactic transport, and the time she defeated a powered Brianwave in the Astral Plane"Really? Maxima is that good? "
I haven't seen anything that would make Martian Manhunter a better telepath then her. If they were to engage in psionic combat, it would be too close to call.
"@AtPhantom said:I do agree.I believe so. Apart from Martian Manhunter using his telepathy on people like the Spectre (who was unconscious when he did it), I don't think she needs something of that nature to be able to measure up with him. On top of that, Maxima's telepathy is better tailored for combat (because she uses it a lot in battle). Her telekinesis is quite powerful as well, having been able to shift continental plates with it even when she was weaken. Then there was the time she used her mind to create at psionic highway to provide intergalactic transport, and the time she defeated a powered Brianwave in the Astral Plane I haven't seen anything that would make Martian Manhunter a better telepath then her. If they were to engage in psionic combat, it would be too close to call. ""Really? Maxima is that good? "
Any Maxima supporters in CV land?
"Me. I love her and I think that if J'onn didn't have intangibility that she would take this rather easily."
Any Maxima supporters in CV land?
" @Jake Fury said:"Me. I love her and I think that if J'onn didn't have intangibility that she would take this rather easily. ""
Any Maxima supporters in CV land?
They seem to be really evenly matched.
"MM might have his intangibility but Maxima can teleport. I think either of them could win. "
I thought her power was to teleport other people...... eh.... Her profile says she doesn't like to use that power, she'd rather fight head on, but if she feels her opponent is unworthy she'll teleport them away... i doubt she would think that of MM.......
@Jake Fury said:
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Any Maxima supporters in CV land?
I like her... more than the average comics fan... but MM seems like he'd win.
" How does intangibility help J'onn here? "I figured if he went intangible, she would have a hard time hitting him with physical attacks. But, she could have other ways of attacking him, I guess.
" Maxima was the only one besides Superman capable of hurting Doomsday. "True. But, for some reason, Wonder Woman being unable to fight him was too hard to swallow. :(
" @Switchdoctor said:Oh, she certainly can deal with J'onn if he went intangible. I see this probably going to a telepathic duel more often than not, and considering she already knows about J'onn's psychosomatic fear of fire, she can start there without even probing for a weakness like she often does. I noticed you posted the Maxima Doomsday fight. I would have referenced that one, but it looks like you knew where I was going ahead of time. Compare that fight to the J'onn Doomsday fight, and Maxima wins. Aside from mentioning that he didn't think he had ever been hit so hard in his life, J'onn said that Doomsday was so fast that he didn't have time to use his phase power." How does intangibility help J'onn here? "I figured if he went intangible, she would have a hard time hitting him with physical attacks. But, she could have other ways of attacking him, I guess. "
I think Jonn's best reflex feat was when he smashed towers on seven different continents, and landed 4 punches on 4 White Martians before they could react. Maxima's best showings are probably against Doomsday and Superman, where she fights, dodges, and performs difficult maneuvers at speed. I don't remember the issue, but in JLA, Maxima commented on Jay Garrick's speed in battle, and she said that he'd make an Almeracian soldier proud or something to that effect. Also, I'm thinking that the intergalactic psionic highway feat from OWAW is pretty uber as well considering she stopped mid-transit to deal with Kyle and Clark blocking her way, but I don't think I have to press that one for the moment.
" Martian Manhunter is stronger and way faster. I'd say he wins this. "Ummm, I highly doubt that.
@Switchdoctor said:
" How does intangibility help J'onn here? "It's the only way that she can't actually touch him. If he couldn't go all phasey then Maxima would win this without a doubt.
Uh. Okay. Considering all the ways that Maxima could still hurt J'onn even if he was phased, what's stopping you from removing all doubt.
@Switchdoctor said:" How does intangibility help J'onn here? "It's the only way that she can't actually touch him. If he couldn't go all phasey then Maxima would win this without a doubt. "
" @courtney12490 said:I don't know enough about him to be able to properly gauge his telepathic skill against hers.Uh. Okay. Considering all the ways that Maxima could still hurt J'onn even if he was phased, what's stopping you from removing all doubt. "
@Switchdoctor said:" How does intangibility help J'onn here? "It's the only way that she can't actually touch him. If he couldn't go all phasey then Maxima would win this without a doubt. "
While I'm not a Maxima fan I think she could take this one. Physically she has taken on Superman (which lets face it MM cant) She may be slightly behind him as a telepath but she does have other mental powers that make up for this. I dont see shape changing or intangibility helping Jonn' (is so how does he attack since he porb' wont win in a mental assault. Add to which Maxima is a warrior type who is far more likely to take this battle to the next level (and next after that and so on).
" @Static Shock: I was mainly questioning the poster who claimed that J'onn was stronger and way faster than Maxima without referencing anything to back up that remark. Could J'onn phase before Maxima melted his martian brain in a quick draw? Eh. I think you're looking at a 50/50 shot.Well, there was the time he phased right before Superboy Prime could hit him with heat vision.
Superman and Wonder Woman have been able to keep up with the Flash at supersonic speeds. But, they have never been able to do the same when Flash is exceeding light speed." @courtney12490: I don't. His speed is fast enough to keep up with the Flash. "
Thus, keeping up with the Flash when he's not at his top speed isn't really a feat.
" @EpitomeofCool said:Not only that, but Maxima has been able to keep up with Superman.Superman and Wonder Woman have been able to keep up with the Flash at supersonic speeds. But, they have never been able to do the same when Flash is exceeding light speed. Thus, keeping up with the Flash when he's not at his top speed isn't really a feat. "" @courtney12490: I don't. His speed is fast enough to keep up with the Flash. "
"While I'm not a Maxima fan I think she could take this one. Physically she has taken on Superman (which lets face it MM cant) She may be slightly behind him as a telepath but she does have other mental powers that make up for this. I dont see shape changing or intangibility helping Jonn' (is so how does he attack since he porb' wont win in a mental assault. Add to which Maxima is a warrior type who is far more likely to take this battle to the next level (and next after that and so on). "
Taking down Ultraman
Superman has stated that MM is at the top of the llist of people he doesn't want to get into a fight with, and that MM is the most powerful being on the planet. MM has also said that he is just as strong as Superman, but people forget this.
If i could blow up these pics, they have a convo here about MM's strength (they're really small so i wont post them)
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