Ozai, Bumi, Yoda, Grand Master Luke, Albus Dumbledore, Road Runner, Azula, Aang Tarrlok, Zorro, Swamp thing, Zatanna vs Doctor Strange, Zoom, Darkseid, Dr doom, Darth Sidious, Darth Zannah, Shadow King, and 400,000 xenomorphs(and growing at 100 a minute)
What....? Strange is not a Villain...... the opposite.
I do not rely on wiki information, they usually say if it's villian or not villain From what people have been debating, when I made a beat my team Villians only thread, multiple people stressed Strange was a villain. So I'l change it.
Ozai, Bumi, Yoda, Grand Master Luke, Albus Dumbledore, Road Runner, Azula, Aang Tarrlok, Zorro, Swamp thing, Zatanna vs Zoom, Darkseid, Dr doom, Darth Sidious, Darth Zannah, Shadow King, and 400,000 xenomorphs(and growing at 100 a minute)
Swamp Thing could only be possibly killed by Darkseid here, since he is the Green unless Darkseid wants him gone he's gonna be BFRed but most likely just reform.
Flyers might be able to avoid the Aliens but they aren't taking them down either. Non Fliers are going to get killed by the massive swarm. Teleporters could teleport away but that is about it. Zoom could also leave but even with his powers I can't see him taking all of them down.
If the Dip can kill a toon, the Aliens acidic blood should also so Zoom can just steal Zorros sword cut off an aliens head and poors blood on Roadrunner before he moves so toonforce never gets a chance.
@MasterJohn: Ozai, Bumi, Yoda, Grand Master Luke, Albus Dumbledore, Road Runner, Azula, Aang Tarrlok, Zorro, Swamp thing, Zatanna vs Zoom, Darkseid, Dr doom, Darth Sidious, Darth Zannah, Shadow King, and 400,000 xenomorphs(and growing at 100 a minute)
Well first we should rule out the weakest characters as factors. As in those who are not factors. Then you can get a better picture of who this fight is between. Team 1 is severely outnumbered/matched at this point which would make it nearly impossible for them to win.
@MasterJohn: Ozai, Bumi, Yoda, Grand Master Luke, Albus Dumbledore, Road Runner, Azula, Aang Tarrlok, Zorro, Swamp thing, Zatanna vs Zoom, Darkseid, Dr doom, Darth Sidious, Darth Zannah, Shadow King, and 400,000 xenomorphs(and growing at 100 a minute)
Well first we should rule out the weakest characters as factors. As in those who are not factors. Then you can get a better picture of who this fight is between. Team 1 is severely outnumbered/matched at this point which would make it nearly impossible for them to win.
Dumbledore is not weak, that is your personal opinion. Keep opinion out of this and keep fact in this.
He and Voldermort are the most powerful wizards in the potterverse, and Dumbledore near-stomped Voldermort.
Bumi is nowhere near weak, what do you know about him?
Firelord Ozai is nowhere near weak. Again, what do you know about him?
Aang is NOWHERE near weak, Azula maybe, Zorro is weak. He's just there for backup, but he's a master swordsman..Thus the title "MASTERS vs VILLIANS"
Swamp Thing can take Darkseid, Yoda can take Darth Zannah, Luke can take Sidious.
Will Dr Doom be able to even catch Road Runner?
The only problem I see here is the Shadow King. This is where Zatanna comes in. She has summoned demons from Hell to fight for her before. She could possibily summon one to fight Shadow King.
Road Runner is there for zoom
Dumbledore, Ozai, Bumi, Azula, Aang, Tarrlok, are all there for the Xenomorphs.
So please, stop injecting your opinion into my thread. Those "weak" characters you crossed out aren't weak. That's fact. Aang is master of all elements, Ozai firebending master, Bumi the master Earthbender, Tarrlok master Waterbender and bloodbender, Azula master lightning bender. Etc.
@MasterJohn: It is not my opinion it is a fact. Certain characters may be top dog in their own verses but in a different verse they would be rather weak in comparison with the other characters. For example, Zoom could speed blitz Dumbledore, Bumi, Azula, Aang, Tarlokk, and Ozai since they are nowhere near fast enough to keep up with him. And those from the Avatarverse have no defense against reality warp and magic so yeah not factors.
@MasterJohn: What are Dumbledore, Bumi, Ozai or Aang going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom? In fact, what is ANYONE on that team going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom?
There's no one on that team that can deal with him. Grandmaster Luke probably has the best shot, but he's still going to get smashed in the ground pretty much instantly.
@MasterJohn: What are Dumbledore, Bumi, Ozai or Aang going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom? In fact, what is ANYONE on that team going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom?
There's no one on that team that can deal with him. Grandmaster Luke probably has the best shot, but he's still going to get smashed in the ground pretty much instantly.
What will Zoom do to Road Runner? Like Daffy Duck, you can speed-blitz and beat his head in, it'll simply pop back up good as new.
More importantly: What is Zoom doing against Swamp thing? Zoom is impressive and fast, but there is NO way he's taking on Swamp Thing alone.
@MasterJohn: What are Dumbledore, Bumi, Ozai or Aang going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom? In fact, what is ANYONE on that team going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom?
There's no one on that team that can deal with him. Grandmaster Luke probably has the best shot, but he's still going to get smashed in the ground pretty much instantly.
What will Zoom do to Road Runner? Like Daffy Duck, you can speed-blitz and beat his head in, it'll simply pop back up good as new.
More importantly: What is Zoom doing against Swamp thing? Zoom is impressive and fast, but there is NO way he's taking on Swamp Thing alone.
1. Knock him out. Then again, you'll just claim it can't be done because of toonforce. Despite toonforce users only coming back when affected by other toonforce users, or ACME products. Neither of which Zoom uses.
2. Congratulations. He can instantly beat everyone on that team except Swamp Thing. Who still loses to the rest of his team.
And if this is a battle to the death, and you keep claiming toons cannot be killed, why are you putting them in these battles under these conditions? That's not very logical, now is it?
@MasterJohn: What are Dumbledore, Bumi, Ozai or Aang going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom? In fact, what is ANYONE on that team going to do against a bloodlusted Zoom?
There's no one on that team that can deal with him. Grandmaster Luke probably has the best shot, but he's still going to get smashed in the ground pretty much instantly.
What will Zoom do to Road Runner? Like Daffy Duck, you can speed-blitz and beat his head in, it'll simply pop back up good as new.
More importantly: What is Zoom doing against Swamp thing? Zoom is impressive and fast, but there is NO way he's taking on Swamp Thing alone.
1. Knock him out. Then again, you'll just claim it can't be done because of toonforce. Despite toonforce users only coming back when affected by other toonforce users, or ACME products. Neither of which Zoom uses.
2. Congratulations. He can instantly beat everyone on that team except Swamp Thing. Who still loses to the rest of his team.
And if this is a battle to the death, and you keep claiming toons cannot be killed, why are you putting them in these battles under these conditions? That's not very logical, now is it?
Do you have some sort of grudge against warner bros.? or ACME? Those are completely irrelevant in battles. That's like saying since Harry Potter is in a different universe, he couldn't hurt the Joker. It's nonsense.
You have not shown me Road Runner can be killed, you'll keep jumping to your talking points and tip-toeing around my explinations.
2... Seriously? Zannah and Sidious wouldn't last a second against Swamp Thing. He'd rot them like he does to his enemies. Then all he needs to deal with are Xenomorphs, which will be a cake-walk, then Darkseid, which will be the only challenge for him.
3. This is a talking point. I only have ONE toon in this battle, ONE. Maybe I should make battles about characters you know nothing about so you won't comment? You've been following me around ever since my "Beat my team" thread.
1. Road Runner, and other toonforcers, come back when affected by other toonforcers or ACME products. Show me Road Runner taking hits from someone on Zooms level, who isn't a toonforcer. You can't. Toonforce does not magically negate everything and anything, only other toonforce "attacks". Show me Road Runner hitting anyone with the force and speed that Zoom does. You can't. Just because Road Runner, or Toons in generally, aren't killed in a childrens cartoon, doesn't mean they're invincible. Why anyone would think that...is absurd.
2. Yes, seriously. Swamp Thing isn't soloing team 2.
3. Maybe you shouldn't make threads at all, if you're going to refuse to accept any and all logic about the characters, and then continue to fall back on your poor reasoning of "You dont know anything about this character ". No one cares that you like toonforce characters, people like who they like. It's simply disturbing how much you wank their "feats" so hard. Despite them clearly being outclassed.
It's pretty clear in your Mighty Mouse Respect Thread, that you're just going to say whatever you want when it comes to Toons, to try and justify your position. You clearly state in that thread that Mighty Mouse moves at the speed of light, despite there being overwhelming evidence that he doesnt, and you refuse to acknowledge otherwise (something stated in the thread itself).
If you can't handle people debating, and tell you that you're flat out wrong, don't use the internet.
Lastly, stop assuming everyone that tells you you're wrong hates Toons, Warner Brothers or ACME. It's disgustingly annoying, and just shows that you've finally reached the point where you actually have no legitimate points.
1. Road Runner, and other toonforcers, come back when affected by other toonforcers or ACME products. Show me Road Runner taking hits from someone on Zooms level, who isn't a toonforcer. You can't. Toonforce does not magically negate everything and anything, only other toonforce "attacks". Show me Road Runner hitting anyone with the force and speed that Zoom does. You can't. Just because Road Runner, or Toons in generally, aren't killed in a childrens cartoon, doesn't mean they're invincible. Why anyone would think that...is absurd.
This is the only logical thing you've said in that entire post, the rest is a bunch of Ad Hominiem.
No, I can't, but that's irrelevant. Your trying to put rules on Toonforce when you can't. The term "'toonforce" actually originated on Comicvine! *Sigh*. Yet, you can't show me Zoom killing Road Runner or Road Runner dying. You'll just jump right back to your talking points..Here's what gets to me.
Just because Road Runner, or Toons in generally, aren't killed in a childrens cartoon, doesn't mean they're invincible. Why anyone would think that...is absurd.
That is a CLEAR OPINION. OPINION. So, stick with your opinions, I will stick to my factual/opinionated stance on toonforcers.
Yes, seriously. Swamp Thing isn't soloing team 2.
He could just rot Zannah and Sidious, then go on to the next one: Darkseid. Swamp Thing is too big for Zoom to take him down.. Exhibit A:
He gets very big.
Plus, he's immortal, and could manipulate the microscopic algae in Zoom's body, and attack him from the inside out. Lets say team 2 defeats Swamp Thing (which is unlikely) he'll simply re-grow back. This is a no-prep round. Now on to your other qoutes.
3. Maybe you shouldn't make threads at all, if you're going to refuse to accept any and all logic about the characters, and then continue to fall back on your poor reasoning of "You dont know anything about this character ". No one cares that you like toonforce characters, people like who they like. It's simply disturbing how much you wank their "feats" so hard. Despite them clearly being outclassed.
If you know NOTHING about the characters you should not be commenting. Don't you have someone else to follow around on comicvine
No one cares that you like toonforce characters, people like who they like
Well, Road Runner is actually a DC comic character also, so is Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, etc...So I am actually in the bounds of the rules on comicvine. These are comic characters in comic fights. Mighty Mouse even has his own FORUMS here on comicvine. <.<
It's pretty clear in your Mighty Mouse Respect Thread, that you're just going to say whatever you want when it comes to Toons, to try and justify your position. You clearly state in that thread that Mighty Mouse moves at the speed of light, despite there being overwhelming evidence that he doesnt, and you refuse to acknowledge otherwise (something stated in the thread itself).
Mighty Mouse isn't a toon. He's a cartoon character. A cartoon superhero, along with a comicbook superhero. From what it looks like, he does move at the speed of light. Know what? Next earlier summer, in 2013, they have a Mighty Mouse 3D movie coming out. We will see if he really does move at the speed of light or not. Mighty Mouse still has fantastic feats.
Overwhelming evidence when you guys who like to team up on me and try to disprove me (must be a life goal) don't even know nothing about the character!?
If you can't handle people debating, and tell you that you're flat out wrong, don't use the internet.
.....You don't even know me. If you did, you know I am on Reddit, Youtube, and the off-topic forums on Comicvine debating Politics. And winning most of the time. This shows you are running out of talking points and just go straight to insulting and assuming. If you can't handle me coming on Comicvine, and keep thinking you should keep coming to my threads annoying me, then STOP following me. I've only made that request to 1 person personally on Comicvine. You are the 2nd.
Lastly, stop assuming everyone that tells you you're wrong hates Toons, Warner Brothers or ACME. It's disgustingly annoying, and just shows that you've finally reached the point where you actually have no legitimate points.
That is their opinion. I give solid feats, they try to ruin it, it's called patty cake. One person is PM'd on who to annoy me on my threads, then another. Who will it be next time?
Ozai, Bumi, Yoda, Grand Master Luke, Albus Dumbledore, Road Runner, Azula, Aang Tarrlok, Zorro, Swamp thing, Zatanna vs Zoom, Darkseid, Dr doom, Darth Sidious, Darth Zannah, Shadow King, and 400,000 xenomorphs(and growing at 100 a minute)
Team 1 would only stand a slight chance against the Xenomorphs if the Avatar characters created a giant dome of stone and bottlenecked the Aliens, with Dumbledore, Yoda, and Luke focusing fire.
Team 2 has way more firepower here. Most of Team 1 is getting taken out by them.
Swamp Thing is unkillable (A bit of problem in death match) but its possible Sidious could try to lock his mind from getting a new body.
Zoom, Shadow King and Darkseid could work in Tandum to take out RR. Zoom isn't fast as much as he is a time traveler, Shadow King jumps into RR mind. Darkseid uses is OB to undo RR. Darkseid took out Lobo in this way since Lobo couldn't go to heaven or hell.
Ozai, Bumi, Yoda, Grand Master Luke, Albus Dumbledore, Road Runner, Azula, Aang Tarrlok, Zorro, Swamp thing, Zatanna vs Zoom, Darkseid, Dr doom, Darth Sidious, Darth Zannah, Shadow King, and 400,000 xenomorphs(and growing at 100 a minute)
Team 1 would only stand a slight chance against the Xenomorphs if the Avatar characters created a giant dome of stone and bottlenecked the Aliens, with Dumbledore, Yoda, and Luke focusing fire.
Team 2 has way more firepower here. Most of Team 1 is getting taken out by them.
Swamp Thing is unkillable (A bit of problem in death match) but its possible Sidious could try to lock his mind from getting a new body.
Zoom, Shadow King and Darkseid could work in Tandum to take out RR. Zoom isn't fast as much as he is a time traveler, Shadow King jumps into RR mind. Darkseid uses is OB to undo RR. Darkseid took out Lobo in this way since Lobo couldn't go to heaven or hell.
Sidious would have to avoid being rot to death, or his algae in his body completely decapitating him.
Yoda can probably take the xenomorphs. He'd stomp the Xenomorph queen, Dumbledore can use some spells against them, Azula should be able to do something.
Most, not all. Road Runner survives, so does Yoda, Luke, Swamp Thing and Zatanna.
Road Runner could probably call down a big boulder onto Darkseid. He has held Anvils and Boulders into the air by his own will, what's stopping him from calling them down?
Now, the Shadow king is a real challenge for RR. If you can show me the Shadow King going faster then Road Runner, then I will agree RR won't make it. Espiscially if the Shadow King is in astral form.
RR is much faster then Darkseid's omega beams, even if the omega beams follow, RR, if he goes into a wall then the Omega beams vaporize the wall, and RR is still running around.
The only thing shown to be able to match Zolomon in speed is an amped Barry Allen (the fastest Flash) IIRC.
Road Runner is not outrunning the Omega Beams. He:
Doesn't have the speed
Would also have to avoid the energy trail, touching it will get you destroyed. (This may destroy a few other members of your team.)
Also, the OB can turn at Darkseid's will, performing improbable, and in some cases, almost impossible turns.
Calling a boulder down on Darkseid won't do jack. He's effortlessly tanked hits from powerhouses like Superman.
Shadow King is so powerful, he doesn't need to be as fast as the Road Runner. He's a telepath, if it's the Shadow King I think you're talking about, IIRC, so he can take Road Runner, and a number of your other characters via his telepathy.
Road Runner can only go into walls that someone paints a tunnel on.
Just to prove that Zoom can beat Road Runner. On Road Runner's best day he's about a Jay Garrick, and that's being damn generous.
- Takes on Jay Garrick and Wally West. Grabs Jay and throws him into a car. The following pages he trips Wally, then blocks dozens, maybe hundreds of punches with a single hand.
@MasterJohn: With Shadow King's Telepathy he can make Road Runner believe there is food to eat. While eating, SK uses Astral Form to sneak up on RR and takes his body as his own.
Also Shadow King could dominate the Alien Queen (whom was just mentioned) and get the Queen to use her children to only attack Team 1.
Yoda has never been shown to have enough feats to defeat that many enemies at once.
As for Swamp thing versus Sidious , Sidious and Zannahs TK should be strong enough to keep him at bay until Darkseid removes him from existence or at least BFRs him
Sidious would have to avoid being rot to death, or his algae in his body completely decapitating him.
Once he dies, he uses Essence Transfer.
I still don't understand how that'll KILL Swamp thing..Possess him sure, but I don't know how he'll kill.
What if Darkseid mistakes possessed-swamp thing for real Swamp thing and fires omega beams? That ends palpatine's essence transfer doesn't it?
@Quartermaim You don't think Yoda can defeat Xenomorphs on his own, or the Alien Queen's children? Seems like it's time for a new thread..
Bumi would also solo against the Alien Queen's children. You do understand, he's the strongest Earth Bender in the Avatar series?
All it takes is for him to do minimal movements, and he could turn the ground on the Xenomorphs, BFR them up into the sky with rock, send groups of boulders to them, make avalanche..Don't even mention Ozai, who could scorch the Xenomorphs to death if they ever got too close.
Dumbledore should be able to hold out against the Xenomorphs. He could summon the fiery rope to kill any Xenomorphs coming at him. Or use Expelliomous to decimate them to dust.
Zatanna, depending on what version, can defend against any type of possession. I will get the scans for you, but she can. So that may be a problem to Shadow King. What;s stopping her from banishing him to hell? Or summoning a demon from hell to fight him?
@MasterJohn: It's a different form of possession. Palpatine's essence literally takes over the body, not manipulate Swamp thing's consciousness.
And again, once Palpatine's next body dies, then Darkseid simply kills another of his team while Palpatine's spirit hangs around still or transfers his essence to another being.
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