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#1 Edited by PALADIN_ (265 posts) - - Show Bio

Scenario

  1. Darth Vader & Yoda are in prime while also being blood lusted
  2. Thor has morals and is in current incarnation with out Odin Force
  3. Battle takes place in the Jedi Temple
  4. Darth Vader and Yoda know everything about Thor, Thor knows nothing about them
  5. Darth Vader and Yoda strike first
  6. Win by ko,bfr,incapcitation (10 minutes),death or submission.
#2 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

#3 Posted by Joygirl (19955 posts) - - Show Bio

Can Vader just crush his heart?

#4 Posted by IronBatmanfan (17 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm giving it to Thor for this one.

#5 Posted by PALADIN_ (265 posts) - - Show Bio

bump.

#6 Posted by layco (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor, too much power and strength.

#7 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl: OP did not state otherwise so yea, Vader wins.

#8 Posted by Bane_of_sith (2796 posts) - - Show Bio

Team wins...Vader and yoda together are impressive to say the least and Vader could crush his windpipe and heart since they have the drop on Thor

#9 Posted by logy5000 (6167 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor throws mjolnir through Vader and fries Yoda.

#10 Edited by BlueHope (360 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

Thor throws mjolnir through Vader and fries Yoda.

that

#11 Posted by Iragexcudder (5619 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Thor.

#12 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

Thor throws mjolnir through Vader and fries Yoda.

Yoda can dodge thor's attacks easily.

#13 Posted by Bo88gdan (4673 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

#14 Posted by BlueHope (360 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@logy5000 said:

Thor throws mjolnir through Vader and fries Yoda.

Yoda can dodge thor's attacks easily.

no

#15 Posted by AllStarSuperman (23008 posts) - - Show Bio

darth vader holds thor still and crushes his windpipe and yod chops his head off

#16 Edited by CosmosTyrant (492 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman:@Joygirl: @e3zombie: Ah No.

#17 Posted by _Psy_ (3410 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bane_of_sith: @e3zombie: @Joygirl: I highly doubt Vader using the Force would do something the Sun couldn't... 
 
@Kingjohnrocks
No, he can't. Thor's hammer can travel around the Earth in seconds.
#18 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

Do any of you have any thoughts?

#19 Posted by PALADIN_ (265 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor has morals he won't do that.

#20 Edited by ShootingNova (19098 posts) - - Show Bio

There are a number of factors not being considered here:

1. Thor has morals. Wouldn't that mean he is jobbing, at least early on? If it does, then this is a mismatch.

2. Prep time. Team 1 knows everything about Thor, so that is a massive advantage considering Thor knows nothing about them.

3. Ground advantage. This is a place where Team 1 has an advantage by knowing the massive Jedi Temple, whereas Thor doesn't. Morals on, he most likely will not be destroying the whole temple instantly, so it can still be of advantage.

4. Yoda and Vader get to land free first strikes. Regardless of whether it is either who does it, or even both, this is a huge advantage.

That said, Yoda has fought evenly with Palpatine in a lightsaber duel, while Palpatine has moved faster than Anakin (who has sub-light reaction speeds) could see (note that Yoda does not strike as fast as Palpatine, merely contending with him, but still enough to fight him evenly), has utilized his lightsaber fast enough to cover his body in light, generated afterimages of his lightsaber blade, carried a crate with a cannon on his back for miles, fell a hundred metres and suffered only a modest amount of harm, upheld the Last Call (Ventress's ship), thrown around Senate pods, effortlessly moved X-Wings, caused avalanches, lifted enormous pillars, effortlessly disarmed Ventress with a mere gesture, held his own against Palpatine's Lightning (which can kill beings and even destroy small armies) with Tutaminis (Absorption) and possibly Deflection in conjunction, defeated Master Windu, an amped Dooku, and stalemated Palpatine in dueling.

As for Vader:

said:

Vader has melted durasteel with his rage, knocked over titanic trees, crushed droids of gargantuan stature, crumbled cathedrals, thrown around ships, thrown people across alleyways, redirected projectiles and blaster shots with his bare hands, utilized Lightsaber Throw to the extent he was able to spin the blade around his body, ripped apart platforms to hurl debris at Roan Shryne, hurled everything possible in a Jedi Temple room against Ferus, moved so fast he was apparently "not there" when Ferus struck with his lightsaber (Ferus is a trained Force-user with all physical attributes heavily modified, including speed and reaction), and has used physical strength to slam people on the earth hard enough to crack stone beneath them, remain completely unaffected by the weight of a dozen stormtroopers, ripped off doors from ships (metal doors), crumpled crystalline pillars, and so on.

So..... yeah....... stomp.

#21 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@PALADIN_ said:

Scenario

  1. Darth Vader & Yoda are in prime while also being blood lusted
  2. Thor has morals and is in current incarnation with out Odin Force
  3. Battle takes place in the Jedi Temple
  4. Darth Vader and Yoda know everything about Thor, Thor knows nothing about them
  5. Darth Vader and Yoda strike first
  6. Win by ko,bfr,incapcitation (10 minutes),death or submission.

Read number 5.

Darth Vader holds Thor still, crush his skull, heart, windpipe, etc, etc. (Yeah I know, electrocuting Thor won't work)

Yoda could decapitate him, or just sit back and watch Vader do the job.

#22 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

Well. no-one is going to crush Thor's windpipe via force-crush nor his skull. If Hulk or Gladiator's blows did not crush his skull then Vader or Yoda won't be able to either. His bones are just too durable. His brain yes, his heart: possibly: I mean , his heart is still a muscle and Thor's muscles are inordinately strong and durable.

The team could win. Thor could also win. Depends on each ones strategy. The team knowing everything about Thor may be the edge they need to claim a victory but it is not going to be easy by any stretch of the imagination unless they begin by crushing his brain via the force, in which case it will be over very quickly.

#23 Posted by ShootingNova (19098 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheSwordsman: Yes, they can crush his brain with the Force (Vader is a master of Force Crush). It seems to me to be the fact that the OP has turned this into a landslide stomp by building up multiple conditions favouring the team over Thor.

#24 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: I Agree, brain crush stomps. OP is a little unfair IMO though.

#25 Edited by ShootingNova (19098 posts) - - Show Bio

The first strike basically turns this into a revolting curbstomp. Thor doesn't get to even try to fight before he dies. That's not good enough.....

#26 Posted by TheSwordsman (1954 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova said:

@TheSwordsman: Yes, they can crush his brain with the Force (Vader is a master of Force Crush). It seems to me to be the fact that the OP has turned this into a landslide stomp by building up multiple conditions favouring the team over Thor.

@TheSwordsman said:

Well. no-one is going to crush Thor's windpipe via force-crush nor his skull. If Hulk or Gladiator's blows did not crush his skull then Vader or Yoda won't be able to either. His bones are just too durable. His brain yes, his heart: possibly: I mean , his heart is still a muscle and Thor's muscles are inordinately strong and durable.

The team could win. Thor could also win. Depends on each ones strategy. The team knowing everything about Thor may be the edge they need to claim a victory but it is not going to be easy by any stretch of the imagination unless they begin by crushing his brain via the force, in which case it will be over very quickly.

Perhaps you didn't read my post carefully?

Yes, I agree he gave them full disclosure concerning Thor and gave Thor zero information about them, which is what really makes this unfair.

#27 Edited by NeonGameWave (9141 posts) - - Show Bio

Team, Force crushes him.

#28 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

Do any of you have any thoughts?

There are so many advantages for Yoda and Vader here that it is difficult to vote against them. ShootingNova's post sums it up well.

#29 Posted by logy5000 (6167 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: He can't dodge lightning.

#30 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: He can't dodge lightning.

Yoda can redirect/absorb lightning..

#31 Posted by logy5000 (6167 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Jedi lightning is nothing like Thor's.

#32 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Jedi lightning is nothing like Thor's.

Jedi don't use lightning, SITH do.

Sidious projects Lightning powerful enough to reduce a Sithspawn to ashes.

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Palpatine burns three Prophets of the Dark Side to bones with a burst of Lightning.

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He generates Lightning powerful enough to kill a legion of stormtroopers with enough precision not to kill the Royal Guards in the area.

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(Credit goes to silver)

I think it's pretty simillar. Yoda has redirected Sidious's lightning and has absorbed it.

Yoda redirects Palpatine's Lightning into the Royal Guards stationed nearby before being overpowered by the attack.

In the Senate Arena, lightning forked from the hands of a Sith, and bent away from the gesture of a Jedi to shock Redrobes into unconsciousness. Then there were only the two of them.
Their clash transcended the personal; when new lightning blazed, it was not Palpatine burning Yoda with his hate, it was the Lord of all Sith scorching the Master of all Jedi into a smoldering huddle of clothing and green flesh. A thousand years of hidden Sith exulted in their victory.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

He manages to absorb Sidious' Lightning throughout their duel before reaching his absorption limit.

The end came with astonishing suddenness. The shadow could feel how much it cost the little green freak to bend back his lightnings into the cage of energy that enclosed them both; the creature had reached the limits of his strength.

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

Plus Yoda since he knows everything about Thor could find a way to absorb/deflect his lightning. Plus Yoda is very very fast, he can dodge lightning.

#33 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Jedi lightning is nothing like Thor's.

Plus if Thor hits Yoda with lightning Yoda can just use force protection.

#34 Posted by logy5000 (6167 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks: Thor desoyed leviathens w/ his lightning.

Lightning moves at light speed, that's too fast for Yoda.

Thor's lightning is too broad for Yoda's small hand to contain.

#35 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

Thor throws mjolnir through Vader and fries Yoda.

#36 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Thor desoyed leviathens w/ his lightning.

Lightning moves at light speed, that's too fast for Yoda.

Thor's lightning is too broad for Yoda's small hand to contain.

While you are correct Yoda is not FTL, there's no indication that with morals on Thor throws lightning right away.

There is an argument given by Shootingnova on why Vader and Yoda win, and that argument stands well with many on the thread and factually speaking-decimates your argument.

#37 Posted by CosmosTyrant (492 posts) - - Show Bio

I love how all of you just ignored Thor Fighting in side of a sun, flying from Earth to the sun in moments and ABLE TO FIGHT INSIDE OF A DAMN SUN LIKE NOTHING. And you think force crush or lightning can actually hurt Thor or even hold him ???? ARE YOU FUC31N5 KIDDING ME!!!!!!

This is just aaaahhhh man really.......really?

#38 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (26967 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Thor desoyed leviathens w/ his lightning.

Lightning moves at light speed, that's too fast for Yoda.

Thor's lightning is too broad for Yoda's small hand to contain.

No it doesn't, in fact it is not even close.

#39 Posted by Fernando072295REBORN (506 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor pretty easily. Why wouldn't he afterall? Even with morals on that doesn't mean he's just going to drop Mjolnir and let them jam there lightsabers into his eye sockets or something. He'd chuck Mjolnir at one of them, they'd try to block with the force or with their sabers and be KO'd. Pretty straight forward.

Or they could try and dodge and get lightning to the face.

#40 Posted by PALADIN_ (265 posts) - - Show Bio

this isn't a stomp because I gave team stars wars many advantage to make them stand a chance against Thor's superior durability.

#41 Posted by OneVision_OnePurpose (289 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kingjohnrocks said:

@logy5000 said:

@Kingjohnrocks: Thor desoyed leviathens w/ his lightning.

Lightning moves at light speed, that's too fast for Yoda.

Thor's lightning is too broad for Yoda's small hand to contain.

While you are correct Yoda is not FTL, there's no indication that with morals on Thor throws lightning right away.

There is an argument given by Shootingnova on why Vader and Yoda win, and that argument stands well with many on the thread and factually speaking-decimates your argument.

Factually speaking Thor has, as has been pointed out, been in the sun and received no damage whatsoever. His eyes & hair (generally considered to be quite delicate) were also totally unaffected. Not to mention all the other trauma he's tolerated over the years to his skin and bones.

What's the basis, factually speaking, that his brain will be any less resistant to harm?

#42 Posted by Kingjohnrocks (2008 posts) - - Show Bio

Never said anything about brain crushing. That's shootingnova's argument that I agree with. Reply to him if you wish to dispute that.