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#1 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Chief has a magnum with one magazine, an energy sword, and a frag grenade. Vader has his lightsaber and the force. Combatants start 150 ft apart. Who wins?

#2 Posted by CaptainDoeo (789 posts) - - Show Bio

If Chief survives he'll be getting colorbooks this Christmas.

#3 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (521 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman: Come on man...In Halo 4 the Chief was getting "force gripped" and ragdolled by the Didact. Vader will do the same but worse.

#4 Posted by Quartermaim (617 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader, Chief is cool and skilled but the Dark Side is going to win this one for Vader.

#5 Posted by ImmortalOne (3379 posts) - - Show Bio

With the force, Vader should win pretty easily.

#6 Posted by Strider92 (16289 posts) - - Show Bio

#7 Posted by GhostRider2 (3282 posts) - - Show Bio

Again, Vader will cut him in half.Sure he can use the force but i like lightsasber more...

#8 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

ROFLMFAO that just made my day

#9 Posted by MonsterStomp (16980 posts) - - Show Bio

Vadar force grips, Chief fires off his magnum with superhuman abilities. Vadar drops the Chief to deflect some bullets, Chief runs at Vadar with his energy sword. *engage sword fight* Chief's reflexes = major factor. Vadar feels the loss coming and force pushes, Chief rips out his magnum, fires off a quick shot to the head while in mid air, Vadar deflects and proceeds to use the force but the Chief already fired off 2 other bullets. Woooooooooo. Chielf wins, barely.

#10 Posted by jwalser3 (4899 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShiZZmAhh said:

@ImTheDamnBatman: Come on man...In Halo 4 the Chief was getting "force gripped" and ragdolled by the Didact. Vader will do the same but worse.

That's what I was thinking.

#11 Posted by LastOblivion (103 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

LOOL HAHAHA

Anyway, I'll go with Vader.

#12 Posted by Sci_Fi_Rulez (1059 posts) - - Show Bio

@MonsterStomp said:

Vadar force grips, Chief fires off his magnum with superhuman abilities. Vadar drops the Chief to deflect some bullets, Chief runs at Vadar with his energy sword. *engage sword fight* Chief's reflexes = major factor. Vadar feels the loss coming and force pushes, Chief rips out his magnum, fires off a quick shot to the head while in mid air, Vadar deflects and proceeds to use the force but the Chief already fired off 2 other bullets. Woooooooooo. Chielf wins, barely.

Umm Force Choke then Saber Throw and that's all she wrote.How can he consecrate on shooting Vader while his major organs and lungs are collapsing and getting crushed?

#13 Posted by NeonGameWave (7712 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader.

#14 Posted by MonsterStomp (16980 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sci_Fi_Rulez: Fight is better in my head. Force choke and lightsaber throw? Way to open up the defense, Master Chief still goes to shoot Vadar? Chief has suffered more than his air passage getting crushed, I'm sure he could still be as dangerous with a gun, especially if Vadar is wide open. Chief has millisecond reaction. The moment Vadar throws his saber he is wide open, Chief kills him and the force choke is negated, Chief dodges the saber. BOOM!

#15 Posted by Wolfrazer (6485 posts) - - Show Bio

Magnum shots won't do anything to Vader given his armor and its specifics being made out of all types of armoring(durasteel a big one) which can withstand a ton of things which include blaster shots and lightsaber blows.  Vader can just rip the magnum out of Chief's grasp or just Force Crush him within an instant.

#16 Posted by Immortal777 (7357 posts) - - Show Bio

Darth Vader easily.

#17 Posted by MonsterStomp (16980 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer said:

Magnum shots won't do anything to Vader given his armor and its specifics being made out of all types of armoring(durasteel a big one) which can withstand a ton of things which include blaster shots and lightsaber blows. Vader can just rip the magnum out of Chief's grasp or just Force Crush him within an instant.

Can Vadar crush something as durable as Chief's armor?

#18 Posted by ImmortalOne (3379 posts) - - Show Bio

@MonsterStomp: Vader could potentially (and I only say potentially because he never has, although he most likely should be able to) crush John's brain inside his head.

#19 Posted by MonsterStomp (16980 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImmortalOne said:

@MonsterStomp: Vader could potentially (and I only say potentially because he never has, although he most likely should be able to) crush John's brain inside his head.

So Vadar can crush something behind an object?

#20 Posted by Wolfrazer (6485 posts) - - Show Bio
@MonsterStomp said:

@ImmortalOne said:

@MonsterStomp: Vader could potentially (and I only say potentially because he never has, although he most likely should be able to) crush John's brain inside his head.

So Vadar can crush something behind an object?

The armor is a non-factor, you can't really have any defense against The Force.
#21 Posted by MonsterStomp (16980 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer said:

@MonsterStomp said:

@ImmortalOne said:

@MonsterStomp: Vader could potentially (and I only say potentially because he never has, although he most likely should be able to) crush John's brain inside his head.

So Vadar can crush something behind an object?

The armor is a non-factor, you can't really have any defense against The Force.

The armor maybe a non factor, but John's bones are virtually unbreakable thanks to the Spartan II augmentation proceedures. I'm just curious as to see if Vader can crush an organ while nigh-indestructable bones are blocking off the line of force.

#22 Posted by Sci_Fi_Rulez (1059 posts) - - Show Bio

@MonsterStomp said:

@Sci_Fi_Rulez: Fight is better in my head. Force choke and lightsaber throw? Way to open up the defense, Master Chief still goes to shoot Vadar? Chief has suffered more than his air passage getting crushed, I'm sure he could still be as dangerous with a gun, especially if Vadar is wide open. Chief has millisecond reaction. The moment Vadar throws his saber he is wide open, Chief kills him and the force choke is negated, Chief dodges the saber. BOOM!

Unless Chief is Force Sensitive there is no way he can get away of force grip nor move in that matter.like i said Vader uses Saber Throw and slices his head off.

#23 Posted by DarthCyon (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader's abilities in the force give him a major advantage against someone who mainly uses weaponry. Darth Vader just needs to reach out with the force and crush master chiefs windpipe or organs.

#24 Posted by ShootingNova (16296 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not exactly certain what Master Chief's feats are, but Vader has melted durasteel with his rage, knocked over titanic trees, crushed droids of gargantuan stature, crumbled cathedrals, thrown around ships, thrown people across alleyways, redirected projectiles and blaster shots with his bare hands, utilized Lightsaber Throw to the extent he was able to spin the blade around his body, ripped apart platforms to hurl debris at Roan Shryne, hurled everything possible in a Jedi Temple room against Ferus, moved so fast he was apparently "not there" when Ferus struck with his lightsaber (Ferus is a trained Force-user with all physical attributes heavily modified, including speed and reaction), and has used physical strength to slam people on the earth hard enough to crack stone beneath them, remain completely unaffected by the weight of a dozen stormtroopers, ripped off doors from ships (metal doors), crumpled crystalline pillars, and so on.

Again, I'm not certain where exactly Master Chief's feats stand, but those are some of Vader's most impressive feats. Most were accomplished before his prime, in fact.

#25 Posted by Voorhees111 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Master Chief.

#26 Posted by ArticulateT (189 posts) - - Show Bio

Master Chief's augmentations do provide superhuman abilities, but only barely, hence the need for such large numbers, though, I can't remember what stopped them from making more of them, I know there was a lore explanation for it.

But yeah, due to Vader's armour (if this is post Mustafar Vader) then Chief's Magnum and Grenade are going to be useless here, and I never thought of the Spartan to be the world's greatest swordsman. Vader takes this by a mile.

#27 Posted by Joygirl (19446 posts) - - Show Bio

Vader

#28 Posted by MysteriousUsername (1210 posts) - - Show Bio

Chief loses badly, he has no counter for the force and a lightsaber would most likely be able to slice through his shields and armor. Realistically Chief doesn't have anything that would allow him to reliably counter Vader.

@ArticulateT:

They did end up making more Spartans of different varieties but the reason they didn't continue making versions similar to Chief is due to the amount of time it takes(as they are chosen when they are children and raised to be Spartans) and due to the low output rate of trainees as augmentations killed a large majority of them(or crippled others).

#29 Posted by JamesKM716 (1992 posts) - - Show Bio

mismatch, Vader stomps

#30 Posted by ShootingNova (16296 posts) - - Show Bio

What are the Chief's feats, exactly?

#31 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShiZZmAhh said:

@ImTheDamnBatman: Come on man...In Halo 4 the Chief was getting "force gripped" and ragdolled by the Didact. Vader will do the same but worse.

Absolutely this. Even when Chief was aware of the Didact's ability after being humiliated by it once, he was still absolutely helpless against it a second time.

This should probably be flagged for a mismatch. Chief will be in Vader's Force Choke before Chief can draw a weapon and lie dead on the floor a few seconds later.

#32 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not in character for Vader to resort to his force choke right away.

#33 Posted by ShootingNova (16296 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

It's not in character for Vader to resort to his force choke right away.

Sometimes it is, if Vader feels the victim is too incompetent and unworthy of his other abilities.

#34 Posted by ImTheDamnBatman (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

Chief's "worthiness" would make Thor look like a fool.

#35 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

@ImTheDamnBatman said:

It's not in character for Vader to resort to his force choke right away.

Chief has a magnum with one magazine, an energy sword and a frag grenade. Vader would just toss the grenade right back at Chief's face the second Chief throws it. The idea of Chief getting into a sword fight with Vader and his lightsaber is hilarious. The magnum's bullets won't harm Vader as he will simply deflect them with his palm as he did with Han Solo's blaster Episode V, or Vader could pull the Magnum to his hand and start shooting at Chief for extra hilarity.

And when Chief has lost his sword fight, has had his own grenade blast away some of his armor and lies on the floor with bullet wounds in his legs, Vader kills him via Force Choke.

#36 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShootingNova: It matters not in this context. John fought an opponent who possessed power similar to the force and smacked him around with absolute ease. Vader can do the same and his speed and overall strength outmatches John in both categories. John will get murdered quickly and effortlessly.

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