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#1 Posted by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio

They randomly meet in a military training field.

#2 Posted by Ir0n m@n (57 posts) - - Show Bio

i think master chief would take this one

#3 Posted by brandonthejuggernaut (119 posts) - - Show Bio

probably master cheif.....ultimate cap would probably put up a better fight
#4 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio

It's a hard one to call, IMO, but I do think that Cap could possibly take this one.  Also depending on Master Chief's equipment, if he has sticky grenades being tossed around with cloaking and etc, Cap would be at a huge disadvantage.
#5 Posted by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio
@progenitor said:
" It's a hard one to call, IMO, but I do think that Cap could possibly take this one.  Also depending on Master Chief's equipment, if he has sticky grenades being tossed around with cloaking and etc, Cap would be at a huge disadvantage. "
Yea I was thinking more hand 2 hand. Cap obviously gets his shield. 
 
But Master Chief (in the books) went through a Super Soldier Serum experiment as well. Not as potent as Cap's, mind you, but The MJOLNIR armor he wears augments his speed, strength and overall performance by quite a bit. I've always leaned more towards Chief in this but it really is a tough call.
#6 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek said:
" @progenitor said:
" It's a hard one to call, IMO, but I do think that Cap could possibly take this one.  Also depending on Master Chief's equipment, if he has sticky grenades being tossed around with cloaking and etc, Cap would be at a huge disadvantage. "
Yea I was thinking more hand 2 hand. Cap obviously gets his shield.   But Master Chief (in the books) went through a Super Soldier Serum experiment as well. Not as potent as Cap's, mind you, but The MJOLNIR armor he wears augments his speed, strength and overall performance by quite a bit. I've always leaned more towards Chief in this but it really is a tough call. "

I never read the Halo novels, but i've known a few friends that have, which is how I know about the training on Reach, and i've heard of some strength feats from Chief that are ridiculous, so in that sense, he may have a strength advantage over Cap, but there's plenty of feats of Cap taking on and winning against very slim odds.  I'm not exactly sure how many techniques Chief knows, H2H, but Cap is definitely a seasoned veteran, and one of the very best of the MU.  Cap's been shown lifting a chunk of concrete a little more than half his size and taking out a sniper with it, also one-shotting a helicopter with his shield, one-shotting a Mack truck with his shield.  Still, yeah, it's a tough call, but I still think Cap could maybe take it.
#7 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

Chief due to his physical stats.  Cap vs an armorless Chief would of been a better fight

#8 Posted by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio
@FinalStar86 said:
" Chief due to his physical stats.  Cap vs an armorless Chief would of been a better fight "
We'd have to take the shield away from Cap, then. Otherwise the shield would put Cap over the top, in my opinion.
#9 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" Chief due to his physical stats.  Cap vs an armorless Chief would of been a better fight "
We'd have to take the shield away from Cap, then. Otherwise the shield would put Cap over the top, in my opinion. "

You could always give Chief a firearm or weapon to compensate. 
#10 Edited by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio
@progenitor said:

" @mattek said:

" @FinalStar86 said:
" Chief due to his physical stats.  Cap vs an armorless Chief would of been a better fight "
We'd have to take the shield away from Cap, then. Otherwise the shield would put Cap over the top, in my opinion. "
You could always give Chief a firearm or weapon to compensate.  "
Naw. I think the Vibranium shield would stop any weapon Chief used. He's have to sticky a plasma grenade directly to Cap's body in order to inflict harm. And Cap can block that - guaranteed.
#11 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio

In armor vs Cap with a shield would go to Chief, mostly due to his increased durability. Out of armor h2h, I'd say Cap would take the majority.

#12 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek said:
"@progenitor said:

" @mattek said:

" @FinalStar86 said:
" Chief due to his physical stats.  Cap vs an armorless Chief would of been a better fight "
We'd have to take the shield away from Cap, then. Otherwise the shield would put Cap over the top, in my opinion. "
You could always give Chief a firearm or weapon to compensate.  "
Naw. I think the Vibranium shield would stop any weapon Chief used. He's have to sticky a plasma grenade directly to Cap's body in order to inflict harm. And Cap can block that - guaranteed. "

True.  I think basically in full armor, as FinalStar said, due to what that gives his physical stats, Chief would win--however, without armor, I think that Cap would win, due to his skills and technique in tactical field combat, which I think would just put him over the edge with Chief.
#13 Edited by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio
@Decoy Elite said:

" In armor vs Cap with a shield would go to Chief, mostly due to his increased durability. Out of armor h2h, I'd say Cap would take the majority. "

I agree. But the armor increases his everything. Even intelligence as the armor is (eventually) directly linked to Chief's brain.
#14 Posted by Decoy Elite (30041 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek said:
" @Decoy Elite said:

" In armor vs Cap with a shield would go to Chief, mostly due to his increased durability. Out of armor h2h, I'd say Cap would take the majority. "

I agree. But the armor increases his everything. Even intelligence as the armor is (eventually) directly linked to Chief's brain. "
I don't remember the armor increasing his intelligence in the books or games. If you references Cortana, she does help and would give him a great advantage when it comes to tactics. Although Chief is pretty smart on his own.
#15 Edited by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio
@Decoy Elite said:

" @mattek said:

" @Decoy Elite said:

" In armor vs Cap with a shield would go to Chief, mostly due to his increased durability. Out of armor h2h, I'd say Cap would take the majority. "

I agree. But the armor increases his everything. Even intelligence as the armor is (eventually) directly linked to Chief's brain. "
I don't remember the armor increasing his intelligence in the books or games. If you references Cortana, she does help and would give him a great advantage when it comes to tactics. Although Chief is pretty smart on his own. "
In "The Fall of Reach" It did mention a chip in their heads that connected to the armor's software to make their thinking process faster. I vaguely remember it making him smarter. But, now that I think about it it was probably Cortana in his armor that I'm thinking of. Oops.
#16 Posted by Theworldbreaker (1642 posts) - - Show Bio

They are both pretty much equal i nstreangth, they can both bench 1,000 pounds 
they both have super human speed and aglitt 
and both great with wepones.i dont know who wins realy part of me wants to lean tword capt while the other wants to lean to Master Chief
#17 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio
@Theworldbreaker said:
" They are both pretty much equal i nstreangth, they can both bench 1,000 pounds they both have super human speed and aglitt and both great with wepones.i dont know who wins realy part of me wants to lean tword capt while the other wants to lean to Master Chief "
Uh Chief has Superhuman physical stats, Cap does not.
#18 Posted by Kinasin (1083 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek said:
" @progenitor said:
" It's a hard one to call, IMO, but I do think that Cap could possibly take this one.  Also depending on Master Chief's equipment, if he has sticky grenades being tossed around with cloaking and etc, Cap would be at a huge disadvantage. "
Yea I was thinking more hand 2 hand. Cap obviously gets his shield.   But Master Chief (in the books) went through a Super Soldier Serum experiment as well. Not as potent as Cap's, mind you, but The MJOLNIR armor he wears augments his speed, strength and overall performance by quite a bit. I've always leaned more towards Chief in this but it really is a tough call. "
chief because of the reasons you just listed.
#19 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap
#20 Posted by 614azrael (10276 posts) - - Show Bio
@Kinasin:
indeed. MC was writen basicly as the sci fi version of cap
#21 Posted by Captain Tick (40 posts) - - Show Bio

It is a really tough call but my bet is on Cap not because i'm a Cap fan. However which version of Cap are we referring to here? Steve or Bucky? If its Bucky then MC wins for sure, cus Bucky doesnt have the SS Serum and he isnt quite as experienced as Steve. BUT if its Steve we are talking about then my bet is on him, why? Because we have seen him go up against iron-man and win in civil war, got pretty beaten up but he got the upper hand eventually until paramedics stopped him. And recently he held his own against iron-patriot in seige 3, for a while before iron-man showed up to disable his armour.
#22 Posted by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio

While he may have taken Iron Man, Master Chief has The ability to heal himself in the armor. And While Stark may have better armor, he's not nearly as skilled as Chief. Chief is bred to kill. At a young age Chief (John) was taking on military bases.

#23 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain Tick said:
" It is a really tough call but my bet is on Cap not because i'm a Cap fan. However which version of Cap are we referring to here? Steve or Bucky? If its Bucky then MC wins for sure, cus Bucky doesnt have the SS Serum and he isnt quite as experienced as Steve. BUT if its Steve we are talking about then my bet is on him, why? Because we have seen him go up against iron-man and win in civil war, got pretty beaten up but he got the upper hand eventually until paramedics stopped him. And recently he held his own against iron-patriot in seige 3, for a while before iron-man showed up to disable his armour. "
You know that cap was able to beat iron man because vision has destroyed Tony's suit, right? 
=]
#24 Edited by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek said:

" While he may have taken Iron Man, Master Chief has The ability to heal himself in the armor. And While Stark may have better armor, he's not nearly as skilled as Chief. Chief is bred to kill. At a young age Chief (John) was taking on military bases. "

Iron Man would beat the tobaco juice out of Master Chief....
#25 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@Matezoide said:
" @mattek said:

" While he may have taken Iron Man, Master Chief has The ability to heal himself in the armor. And While Stark may have better armor, he's not nearly as skilled as Chief. Chief is bred to kill. At a young age Chief (John) was taking on military bases. "

Iron Man would beat the tobaco juice out of Master Chief.... "
lol
#26 Edited by Tank. (2063 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron man should be able to beat the tobaco juice out of Cap too, but he didn't. All he'd technically have to do is take flight and bombard the area Cap's standing it with bombs and the likes. BUT - he didn't. Given Chief's record and feats experience I'd say the outcome between those two would be the same as Cap vs IM - IMO.

#28 Posted by Tank. (2063 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by Matezoide2 (15994 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek: 
he didnt because the Vision shutted off his switch,when he had a real fight with Cap,IM almost killed him
#30 Posted by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio

My apologies for duplicating. I searched for the match and found nothing. I'll spend more time next time.

#31 Posted by Tank. (2063 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek: No worries.
To be honest the current search function sucks.
#32 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio

I still go with Cap on this one.
#33 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

Chief, Spartans were pulling off DBZ/Naruto feats in Halo Legends

#34 Posted by difficlus (10678 posts) - - Show Bio
@FinalStar86 said:
" Chief, Spartans were pulling off DBZ/Naruto feats in Halo Legends "
such as...? 
 
anyway chief wins...
#35 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" Chief, Spartans were pulling off DBZ/Naruto feats in Halo Legends "
such as...?  anyway chief wins... "
There was this fight on Youtube were the comic relief Spartan was fighting a dinosaur, give me a second Ill link it
#36 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio

Second half of the video
 
 

#37 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio

   
#38 Posted by mattek (1119 posts) - - Show Bio

Is that Halo Legends stuff cannon?

#39 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio
@mattek said:
"Is that Halo Legends stuff cannon?"

If it is, i'll be surprised, because I felt like falling asleep during the first 20 minutes of it.
#40 Posted by difficlus (10678 posts) - - Show Bio
@progenitor said:
" @mattek said:
"Is that Halo Legends stuff cannon?"
If it is, i'll be surprised, because I felt like falling asleep during the first 20 minutes of it. "
the video is only 10 mins long...lol
#41 Posted by FinalStar86 (8681 posts) - - Show Bio
@difficlus: It also isn't one movie but 7 short films
#42 Posted by progenitor (7532 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie is basically what they did with Batman, having short bits with different artists & animators, although personally I barely could sit through the entire thing.  I mean, don't get me wrong, Halo is cool, the games are entertaining, but it's far from original.  If you want to read a good piece of classic Sci-Fi literature involving intergalactic war and armored soldiers, pick up the original Starship Troopers novel.
#43 Posted by Captain Tick (40 posts) - - Show Bio
@spidey 15:
Oh i actually missed out that very important detail. Thanks.  
haha i guess tht changes everything.. a lot.
#44 Posted by spidey 15 (17756 posts) - - Show Bio
@Captain Tick said:
" @spidey 15: Oh i actually missed out that very important detail. Thanks.  haha i guess tht changes everything.. a lot. "
lol, you are welcome....
=]
#45 Posted by ThaMessenger07 (1779 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a fight for Ultimate Cap. Master Chief takes it.

#46 Posted by Fist_of_Mandalore (1879 posts) - - Show Bio

MC wins no matter what type of Cap.

#47 Posted by Cyromaniac (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Master Chief throw a plasma grenade at cap. Cap catches it with his shield then throws the shield back at the Chief.

#48 Posted by nick_hero22 (6330 posts) - - Show Bio

Chief wins

#49 Posted by tg1982 (2707 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't know, can some give me feats for Master Chief, please?

#50 Posted by CaptainRodgers (1656 posts) - - Show Bio

@tg1982: Agreed

I'd like a ball park figure of Master Chief's physicals , I'm not a gamer but from what I gather he's at around enhanced to low level superhuman stats with some extra tech tricks and moderate skill ?