#1 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3247 posts) - - Show Bio

To clear up some confusion I was wondering who has more power, or tiers of powers between these creatures in Marvel universe.

Elder gods:

vs

Marvels mystical entities:

vs

The Celestials:

  • Arishem the Judge: A Celestial tasked with judging if the civilization of a planet will live or die.
  • Ashema the Listener: A female Celestial tasked, along with Nezarr the Calculator, with retrieving Franklin Richards for evaluation as a new member of the Celestials.
  • The Blue Celestial: The first Celestial whose birth is documented.
  • Devron the Experimenter: A young Celestial tasked with watching over Earth alongside Gamiel the Manipulator.
  • The Dreaming Celestial: Originally known as Tiamut the Communicator; a renegade Celestial.
  • Ea the Wise: An action figure sized Celestial Machine Man carries and treats as an "imaginary friend".
  • Eson the Searcher: The Celestial tasked with "seeking".
  • Exitar the Exterminator: A Celestial tasked with the destruction of life on worlds that fail the Celestials' tests.
  • Gamiel the Manipulator: A young Celestial tasked with watching over Earth alongside Devron the Experimenter.
  • Gammenon the Gatherer: A Celestial tasked with collecting samples of all life forms present on a planet during a Celestial Host.
  • Hargen the Measurer: A Celestial tasked with measuring or quantifying the planets the Celestials survey.
  • Jemiah the Analyzer: A Celestial tasked with analyzing life-form samples.
  • Nezarr the Calculator: A Celestial who is a mathematician and possesses the ability to project illusions.
  • The One Above All: The leader of the Celestials.
  • Oneg the Prober: A Celestial tasked with experimentation and implementation.
  • The Red Celestial: The Celestial tasked with helping to birth the Blue Celestial.
  • The Red/Blue Judge: The Celestial tasked with judging if the civilization of a planet will live or die.
  • Scathan the Approver: A Celestial from the alternate timeline/reality Earth-691, tasked with approving or disapproving situations.
  • Tefral the Surveyor: A Celestial tasked with surveying and mapping the geography of planets.
  • Ziran the Tester: A Celestial tasked with testing the stability of the genetic material of life forms they alter.

vs

Demon gods:

vs

Phoenix Force - White Phoenix of the Crown

vs

Fully Powered Galactus

vs

PR Beyonder

vs

PR Molecule Man

(could you tier them for me? if you have official/unofficial rankings)

Battle is in neutral universe, obviously in their respective realms they are Omnipotent, Omniscient and Omnipresent so this battle is in the 616 universe.

Who comes in 1st, who comes in last?

#2 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3247 posts) - - Show Bio

- Tier 1 - [ 1st Class Beyond ]:

The One-Above-All

Pre-Retcon Beyonder

Protege

Heart of the Universe

- Tier 2 - [ 2nd Class Beyond ]:

Doctor Doom with Pre-Retcon Beyonder power

The Living Tribunal

Pre-Retcon Molecule Man

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet

- Tier 3 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract or Scale ]:

Eternity

Infinity

Death

Oblivion

The Alien Entity

Infiniti IG Nemesis

Genesis ( Sise-Neg)

Captain Britain (with Excalibur and AoR)

Merlyn (with Energy Matrix)

- Tier 4 - [ 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract or Scale ]:

Abysss

The Sword in the Star

The Legion or "Prime Evil"

The Darkness

G-Force

Nth Man

Edifice Rex

Korvac (Power of Six Abstracts from What if?)

White Crown of the Phoenix

- Tier 5 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

The Infinites

The Beyonders

Masters of the Matrix

Hunger

- Tier 6 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God ]:

Entity (What If?)

Master Order

Lord Chaos

Shuma-Gorath

The Other

The Dreaming God

The Ankh

The Enigma Force

Uni-lord

Abadon (Original when it was the embodiment of it's own universe)

Lectra and Phaydra

Zokk and Maftra the twin gods of Therea

Anthropomorpho

The Trion

Galactus (fully powered)

The Creator

The Creator's Staff

Job Burke

Scrier (usurping the Creator's Staff)

- Tier 7 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity Dimensional God ]:

Sire Hate

Mistress Love

The Seven Friendless

Entropy

Epiphany

Enmity

Empathy

Expediency

Eulogy

Eon

Epoch

Valka

Unbeing

Origin

Goblin Force

Cyttorak

Those Who Sit Above in Shadow

The Vishanti

Nightmare

Hell-Lords inside their own pocket dimension

Mephisto

Raggadoor

Cinnibus

Denak

Chthon

Tiboro

Hell-Eyes

Llan

Arioch

Adversary

Inanna

The Darkforce Dimension

The Dragon of the Moon

Archenemy

Maya

Great One

Atlez

Atleza

Zalkor

The Fallen Stars (Adam K'ad-Mon, Cleito, Evenor, Mr.Termineus, Sorrow)

- Tier 8 - [ High Level Metaphysical Semi-Abstracts ]

Galactus (highly fed)

In-Betweener

The Celestials

The Absolutes

The Makers

Mirage

Mad Jim Jaspers

Time Twisters

Time Keepers

Hunger (embodiment of Hunger)

The Phoenix Force

Uni-Mind

Anomaly

He Who Summons - Leader of the Watchers

Kronos

He Who Remains

- Tier 9 - [ Minor Omnipotent Level Upper Class Reality Warpers ]

Cosmic Cube Beings

Known Developed Cosmic Cube

Beyonder(retconed)

Kubik

Shaper of Worlds

Supremor (I)

Maker

Star Thief I (Defender character)

Vaangard

Molecule Man

Sword of the Elder Gods

Devourer of Souls (With power of the Elders)

The M'Kraan Crystal

Mikhail Rasputin

Lifestone Tree

- Tier 10 - [ Metaphysical and Semi-Abstract Level ]:

Galactus (average)

The Dreamqueen

The Watchers

Abrogate

Stranger

Vortex

Demogorge (Atum)

Rune Thor

Trion Juggernaut

Daydream

Hawk God

Xorr, the God Jewel

Wise Man and the Three Wise Men

Walker

Deathurge

Stardust (The Body)

- Tier 11 - [ Elder Gods ]:

Odin (Fully powered)

Elder Gods

Chthon

Demiurge

Set

Gaea

Elder Gods of the Hyborian Age

Crom

Mitra

Asura

Seth

Surtur

Adam K'ad-Mon

King Thor

Hell-Lords outside their own realm

Mephisto

Raggadorr

Cinnibus

Satannish

Tiboro

Llan

Dormammu

The Adversary

Inanna

Dragon Of The Moon

- Tier 12 - [ Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level ]

Franklin Richards

Proteus Piecemeal

Kelly

Donna

Haven (Radha Dastoor) and her son combined

Composite Ngh and Ahh

Jonz Rickard

Alfie O'Meagan

Jamie Braddock

Hutch

Mysterious Fan Boy

Yazdi Gem

- Tier 13 - [ Multiple Planetary-Star Scale: Skyfathers Upper Class Team Wreckers Lower Class Reality Warpers ]:

Other Skyfather Pantheons ( Odin (varies), Zeus [Olympian], Osiris [Egyptian], Manitou [Anasazi], Anu [Annunaki], etc.)

Doctor Strange (Fullest)

Hyperstorm

Cleito

Evenor

The Silent Ones

Master of the Sun

Star Thief (Adam Warlock Foe)

Elders of the Universe

Architect

Astronomer

Caregiver

Champion

Collector

Contemplator

Ego

Explorer

Father Time

Gardner

Grand Astrogator

Grandmaster

Judicator

Obliterator

Possessor

Runner

Trader

Arcadia Deville

The Futurist

Mister M

Alpha the Ultimate Mutant

Cosmic Skyfathers

Veeda Leebre

Kronnit

Zuras

Mentor

Ghaur psionic final form

The One Above (Dionists worship)

Skup Collins

Scatterbrain

Orphan

Overshadow

Soul-Eater (Spirit Mold)

- Tier 14 - [ Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods Lower Class Team Wreckers High End Psionics Composite Beings ]:

Thanos (no preparation)

Doctor Doom (no preparation)

Death Gods ( Pluto, Hela, Seth, Yama, etc)

The Bottle Imp

Supreme Intelligence

Demonstaff

Hunger (Fantastic Four foe)

Shadow King

Undying Ones

Lord Tantalus

Lord Khult

Holly-Ann Ember

Xemnu the Titan

Bysshe

Paloma

Germain Royce

Cloud

The Dance

Kaluu

The Protector

Touchstone

Psi-Lord Franklin Richards

Mantis

The Walkers

The Defiler

Meggan and the Fairies

Huntarr

Mindstar

Doctor Strange (varies)

Modred the Mystic

Nebulon

Supernalia

Varnae

Kulan Gath

Urthona

Ultimus

Thoth Amon

Sleepwalkers

Super-Adaptoids

Audit

Franklin 2099

Moleculon

Mangog

Onslaught (Varies)

Young Gods' Uni-Mind

Overmind

Armaziel, Tzadqiel, and other Cosmic Angels Asuras

- Tier 15 - [ Top Tiers ]:

Thor

Silver Surfer

Morg

Beta Ray Bill

Firelord

X-Man (Shaman)

Adam Warlock

Magneto

Ikaris

Sersi

Black Bolt

Quasar

Maelstrom

Captain Marvel (Mar-vell, Genis-Vell, Phyla)

Kro

Thena

Emperor

Val-Or

Moondragon

Sundragon

Avatar

Apocalypse

X-Man

Gladiator

Hulk (in enraged state)

- Tier 16 - [ High End Superheroes ]:

Hulk (in "relaxed" state)

Doc Samson

Iron Man

I found this list but I feel it's a bit out of order in some instances. I feel on Comicvine between all of us we should be able, verifying feats and scans, to tweak this list to perfection.

#3 Posted by nickzambuto (11471 posts) - - Show Bio

*Marvel's

#4 Posted by comicace3 (1987 posts) - - Show Bio

Who ever win's... we loose.

#5 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (3247 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

*Marvel's

ha thanks so much, anything else to add?

@comicace3 said:

Who ever win's... we loose.

Agreed.

#6 Posted by Imperius_Rex (452 posts) - - Show Bio

I think namor should be above iron man.. Because please?