Marvel VS DC War Tournament (OP will be established later)

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It's time for the two biggest names in the comic book industry to face off...And your knowledge and votes will determine the winner! 
 
Marvel and DC will have 6 teams each.  An individual Viner will represent each team.  From there, we will have a series of 1v1 debates.  The winner will be based on voting.  At the end of the debates, only one company will still be standing.   Naturally, the teams will be street level.  
 
 
For example, let's say team DC has "Bat-Family"...Consisting of Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing, and someone else.  Let's say Morpheus_ has selected this team.  Then there's the Marvel team "Avengers"...Consisting of Captain America, Hawkeye, Spider-Man, and someone else.  Let's say Dane selected this team.  The two will then create a thread with the OPs rules (location, rules) and hold a debate.  Voting will then decide who survives, and who is eliminated.  The winner will then face another winner from the opposite company.  Simple, right?
 
 

FINAL ROSTER


 
 

TEAM MARVEL

 
***eliminated*** The Avengers: Decoy Elite  (1 win) ***eliminated*** 
***eliminated***    Sinister Six: Jake Fury ***eliminated***
X-Men: Power NeXus (1 win)
***eliminated***
Wolverine's Rogues: Mr Deadpool ***eliminated***

 ***eliminated*** Marvel Knights: Ferro Vida ***eliminated***

Mercs/Assassins: k4tzm4n (1 win)

 

TEAM DC

Bat-Family: Dane (2 wins)
***eliminated*** Batman's Rogues: Donovan Montgomery ***eliminated***

Arrow Family: Strafe Prower (1 win)
***eliminated*** Secret Six: Fist of Mandalore ***eliminated***
***eliminated*** Assassins: Lunacyde ***eliminated***
Animal Lovers: Retnex  (1 win)


    
  

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Time: Midday 
Population: Unpopulated 
Buidlings consist of standard interiors (narrow hallways, open apartments on upper levels, limited furntire, basic shops on the first floors) 

Rooftops are flat 
Team DC begins at blue X on far left (in distance) 
Team Marvel begins at right X on far right (in distance) 
Everything is on limits. 
The middle street does not lead anywhere.  Assume it is a dead end.

Rules

-Both teams have basic knowledge of who they are facing.  This includes names and basic power set (physical attributes, standard gear, if possible, mutant abilities). They know nothing of the other team's personalities, tactics, and so forth. 
-Both teams are aware of the starting locations. 
-Character morals apply. 
-Elimination by all standard methods (BFR, KO, incapacitation, death)

-No weapon swapping or simply using another character's weapons/gear. 
-Characters will not cause physical harm to teammates on purpose.  
-Characters have unlimited ammo unless otherwise specified.
-Keep in mind, you're debating why you believe your team would win in combat based on how they would act.  Not how you would command and plan the attack. 
  

ROUND ONE

 

1st battle:


Power NeXus (Marvel: X-Men) VS Donovan Montgomery (DC: Batman's Rogues):  Power NeXus wins. (Marvel victory)  

2nd battle:


Ferro Vida (Marvel: Marvel Knights) VS Dane (DC: Bat-Family): Dane wins (DC victory)
 

3rd battle:

Jake Fury (Marvel: Sinister Six) VS Strafe Prower  (DC: Arrow Family): Strafe Power wins (DC victory)

 

4th battle:

Decoy Elite (Marvel: Avengers) VS Lunacyde (DC: Assassins): Decoy Elite wins (Marvel Victory) 
 

5th battle:

k4tzm4n (Marvel: Mercs/Assassins) VS Fist of Mandalore (DC: Secret Six): k4tzm4n wins (Marvel victory) 
 

6th battle:

Mr Deadpool (Marvel: Wolverine's Rogues) VS Retnex (DC: Animal Lovers): Retnex wins (DC victory)
 

ROUND TWO

Decoy Elite (Marvel: Avengers) VS Dane (DC: Bat-Family): Dane wins (DC victory)  
Power NeXus (Marvel: X-Men) VS Strafe Prower (DC: Arrow Family)
 

 
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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I like, and support this concept.
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#3  Edited By Strafe Prower

Imma go ahead and reserve a spot, because I would love to participate :)

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Are you going to select the teams or do we do it? 

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#5  Edited By Decoy Elite
♪Spider team, Spider team, beats whoever a Spider team does.♪
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#6  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury:
I'll create all of the teams and then Viners can select what team they want. 
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@k4tzm4n said:
" @Jake Fury: I'll create all of the teams and then Viners can select what team they want.  "
Cool.  
 
If you create a team of not so classic Spidey villains like Foreigner, Silver Sable & Boomerang let me know.
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#8  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Strafe Prower said:
"

Imma go ahead and reserve a spot

:)
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#9  Edited By Retnex

I'd love to do this, but I'll leave the spots open for more knowledgeable Viners.
I will follow it though :)

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#10  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Retnex said:
" I'd love to do this, but I'll leave the spots open for more knowledgeable Viners. I will follow it though :) "
Bah, if you know a lot about the characters from one team then join in.
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I'll take a team and see how I fare. 

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#12  Edited By Retnex
@Decoy Elite said:

" @Retnex said:

" I'd love to do this, but I'll leave the spots open for more knowledgeable Viners. I will follow it though :) "
Bah, if you know a lot about the characters from one team then join in. "
I'm willing to admit I only know the basics of most characters plus what I learned from being on here. 
IF there is a team I can function with and no one else wants it, then I'll play. But since it's a team effort I wouldn't want to bring my fellow viners down.
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#13  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Retnex said:
" @Decoy Elite said:

" @Retnex said:

" I'd love to do this, but I'll leave the spots open for more knowledgeable Viners. I will follow it though :) "
Bah, if you know a lot about the characters from one team then join in. "
I'm willing to admit I only know the basics of most characters plus what I learned from being on here.  IF there is a team I can function with and no one else wants it, then I'll play. But since it's a team effort I wouldn't want to bring my fellow viners down. "
You're a good debater, and depending on the team you could prove a match for the best debaters. I'm only going to try and join this because I'm a glutton for punishment.
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#14  Edited By Retnex
@Decoy Elite said:
" @Retnex said:
" @Decoy Elite said:

" @Retnex said:

" I'd love to do this, but I'll leave the spots open for more knowledgeable Viners. I will follow it though :) "
Bah, if you know a lot about the characters from one team then join in. "
I'm willing to admit I only know the basics of most characters plus what I learned from being on here.  IF there is a team I can function with and no one else wants it, then I'll play. But since it's a team effort I wouldn't want to bring my fellow viners down. "
You're a good debater, and depending on the team you could prove a match for the best debaters. I'm only going to try and join this because I'm a glutton for punishment. "
Lol, thanks man. I'll remain as a bench warmer though, there if needed. 
You're a good debater too, it be cool if we were on the same side.
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#15  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Retnex: If I'm in this I'm on team Marvel, I like DC street levelers, but I know a lot more about Marvel's guys.
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#16  Edited By Retnex
@Decoy Elite: 
If I were to end up with Marvel I would be Spiderman villains
If DC, it would be the DC small timers like Green Arrow and Black Canary
 
Those are the only two options I would fair in.
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#17  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Retnex: For me it'd be Spider characters or Bat guys. That's about it.
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#18  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Jake Fury said:
" @k4tzm4n said:
" @Jake Fury: I'll create all of the teams and then Viners can select what team they want.  "
Cool.   If you create a team of not so classic Spidey villains like Foreigner, Silver Sable & Boomerang let me know. "

The teams will consist of mostly well-known characters, so those 3 likely won't be included.  However, there will be a "Spider-Man Rogues" team on Marvel ;)
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#19  Edited By GT-Man

AWESOME I want to vote
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#20  Edited By Retnex
@Decoy Elite: 
I'd love to lead a Spider villain team, but my only experience with them is the old cartoon and this guide I bought when I was seven.
Plus Comicvine.
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#21  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Retnex said:
" @Decoy Elite:  I'd love to lead a Spider villain team, but my only experience with them is the old cartoon and this guide I bought when I was seven. Plus Comicvine. "
I read quite a few classic Spider-Man comics and I too watched the TV show. CV's pages seem to be good for the most part.
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#22  Edited By Strafe Prower

I can't wait to get going with this LOL.

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#23  Edited By Mr. Dead Pool

I reserve a spot
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#24  Edited By Power NeXus

Great.

 

I'm too late to get in on this, aren't I?

 

I hate it when this stuff starts up while I'm at work.

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#25  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Power NeXus said:
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Great.

 

I'm too late to get in on this, aren't I?

 

I hate it when this stuff starts up while I'm at work.

"
It hasn't started yet.
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#26  Edited By dane

sign me up if possible.

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#27  Edited By Power NeXus
@Decoy Elite said:
" @Power NeXus said:
"

Great.

 

I'm too late to get in on this, aren't I?

 

I hate it when this stuff starts up while I'm at work.

"
It hasn't started yet. "

Yeah, but there's only 6 spots for each team, and there's already a whole buttload of "Ok, sign me up"s before me.
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#28  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Power NeXus: They may change there minds when they see the teams. Plus no one has been told that they're in, so who knows.
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#29  Edited By Power NeXus
@Decoy Elite said:
" @Power NeXus: They may change there minds when they see the teams. Plus no one has been told that they're in, so who knows. "

Yeah, but these things are usually first-come first-serve. 
There might still be a spot available for me (though I'm only interested if it's for Marvel. I really don't know DC.), but I don't exactly have high hopes :/
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#30  Edited By Decoy Elite
@Power NeXus said:
" @Decoy Elite said:
" @Power NeXus: They may change there minds when they see the teams. Plus no one has been told that they're in, so who knows. "

Yeah, but these things are usually first-come first-serve. 
There might still be a spot available for me (though I'm only interested if it's for Marvel. I really don't know DC.), but I don't exactly have high hopes :/ "
My hopes are so high, that they're going to get arrested.
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#31  Edited By DedmanWalkin

I would love to compete if there is a spot, DC or Marvel, it doesn't matter.

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#32  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

I feel it isn't fair to assure anyone a spot.  Selection will be first come first serve, HOWEVER, you must demonstrate that you're very knowledgable on the team you pick.
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#33  Edited By Power NeXus

As long as they're all well-known characters and generally street level, I feel I could competantly debate for most Marvel teams.

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#34  Edited By DedmanWalkin

Indeed as long as the teams incorporate people who aren't too obscure, I could defend most teams rather well.

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#35  Edited By Decoy Elite

As long as they're classic Spider Villains I should be up and ready to debate.

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#36  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Here are the team options.  To nominate to represent one, please simply post  
 

"Nominate 'team name'"

 
To highlight it like that, please select it and then click "H2" in the toolbar.  This will make it easier for me to see.  Then under, write why you'd be the best choice to represent the team.  From there, I will select based on your reasoning.   
 
"But you'll just pick your friends!"   
 
No, I won't.  I swear I will base it soley on the reasons provided and give everyone an equal chance. 
 
Here are your teams, boys and girls. Each will consist of 3 characters to keep things even.  On Monday (8/9) I'll select a Viner for each team, and the following day post the rules / location.  From there, I'll assign matches.
 
Get ready for WAR! 
 

Marvel

The Avengers: Captain America (Rogers, Shield), Hawkeye (Batron, regular arrows, 3 explosive, 1 grappling, nunchaku), Spider-Man (current)  
Sinister Six: Doctor Octopus (titanium arms), Sergei Kravinoff (hunting knives, spear, axe), Green Goblin (Norman, glider w/out attached weapons, pumpkin bombs, unlimited razorbats) 
X-Men: Wolverine (bone claw), Gambit (pre-death abilities, 2 decks, adamantium bo-staff), Nightcrawler (unarmed)

Wolverine's Rogues: Sabretooth (bone claw), Daken (current), Deadpool (twin katanas)  
Marvel Knights: Daredevil (twin batons), Punisher (pre-death, twin glocks, kevlar vest, combat knife, m16 w/ scope, grenades), Moon Knight (current armor, crescent daggers, adamantium truncheon)
Mercs/Assassins: Taskmaster (shield, sword), Bullseye (twin sai, daggers), Crossbones (gauntlet knife, mp5 submachine gun) 
 
DC 
Bat-Family: Bruce Wayne (standard batman armor, regular batarangs), Batgirl (standard batarangs), Nightwing (Dick, batons) 
Batman's Rogues: Deathstroke (standard sword), Bane (off venom, unarmed), Man-Bat 
Arrow Family: Green Arrow (Ollie, standard arrows, 3 glue arrows, katana) Green Arrow (Connor, standard arrows, 1 torpedo arrow) Red Arrow (Regular arrows, 1 explosive, katana) 
Secret Six: Catman (bladed knuckles), Deadshot (silenced wrist guns), Ragdoll 
Assassins: Lady Shiva (bo-staff), David Cain (9mm pistol), Drakon (unarmed) 
Animal Lovers: Red Robin (bo-staff, batarangs), Wildcat (Ted, eliminated by standard methods), Beast Boy (Earth Based Land Animals only, largest limit is an elephant, smallest limit is a cobra)
  
 


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#37  Edited By Mr. Dead Pool

Wolverines Rouges 
I have an extensive DP and Weapon X collection and I have extstensive knowledge on these characters. So in a completely non egotistacal way I say I'm the best choice for this team.

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#38  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Mr. Dead Pool:
Please read all of the rules ;) 
 
When you nominate yourself for a team, please say why you'd be the best option for it.  There's only a total of 12 teams, so I'm assuming a lot of people will want the same ones.  By saying why you're the best option, it will help me select from the group.  Thanks.
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#39  Edited By Power NeXus

X-Men

(Hope the H2 thing works. I've never tried it before.

 

I'm not sure I can honestly say I am the best possible choice to debate for this team (I don't have that much of an ego), but the X-Men are my favorite team in all comic book-dom, and the team on whom I am the most well-versed. Wolverine, Gambit, and especially Nightcrawler are all characters whom I know quite well, and I feel I could competantly debate for all three of them. 
Not sure what else to say here. Like I said, it's not like I'm Comicvine's resident expert on these guys. There are still plenty of Viners who know more about them than I do, and may be able to debate for them more skillfully. Nevertheless, I believe I could hold my own with a team like this.

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#40  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Power NeXus:
Thank you for following the rules.  And no worries, there's no need for an ego, only an explaination of why you believe you'd do a good job.  You have done that ;)
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#41  Edited By Power NeXus

Yay! I finally learned how to do this!

Now I'm going to use H2 in every post!

 

jk

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#42  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Power NeXus:
lol
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#43  Edited By Retnex

And Nexus calls me a noob

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#44  Edited By spiderpigbart

I nominate the Marvel Knights team.  I have an extensive collection of Daredevil comics, have many Punisher comics, and have a lot of academic MK knowledge.

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#45  Edited By DedmanWalkin

I nominate myself for the Sinister Six, I loves me some crazies and Norman Osborn is the craziest person in the options. I also am an avid fan of Doctor Octopus. As I generally use stealth and ambush, Sergei's powers and skills would fit in quite nicely.

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#46  Edited By Strafe Prower
@k4tzm4n:
I don't think that Sinister Six sould be there. They have members that are stronger by a good margin than any of the Arrow Family, Marvel Knights, Secret Six, or Bat Family. I could understand one on spiderman's level of strength/durability, bu 3 of his competant and capable enemys on one team? That is too one sided IMO. 
 
I'm really not that knowledgeable on most of the teams here to the degree others are. :/ 
 
I might apply for Secret Six. I haven't decided.
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#47  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Strafe Prower:
I don't believe the Sinister Six have a large advantage by any means. 
1) They don't have a good set of established teamwork in combat.  Many of these "weaker" teams do, as well as have weapons that could easily drop any of them. 
2) The Arrow family physically might not be as strong, but that's really a moot point when they have weapons that could easily drop each member and yet again, teamwork and superior tactics. 
3) The location has yet to be provided.  The location will provide heavy stealth elements to benefit those would use tactics and would be at a disadvantage in a direct battle.
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#48  Edited By Strafe Prower
@k4tzm4n:
I have my doubts unless the location gives them that much of an advantage. But I won't worry about it.
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#49  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Strafe Prower:
Plus, the effectiveness of each team will be in the hands of the Viner representing them and the debate they present.
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#50  Edited By Decoy Elite

The Avengers

 
 The Avengers: Captain America (Rogers, Shield), Hawkeye (Batron, regular arrows, 3 explosive, 1 grappling, nunchaku), Spider-Man (current)  
Spider-Man is one of my favorite characters and I know a lot about him, from how he fights, how useful his webbing is, his dodging, and all that good stuff.
Okay, I know quite a bit about Captain America, he's a very good fighter, he can dodge bullets because he "sees faster" than ordinary humans and it take alot, and I mean a lot of force to break his shield. Hawkeye, is a deadly accurate archer with some good CQC fighting skils. I will have to look into Hawkeye as Ronin, so he is my weak point as far as knowledge of this team goes. :(