Marvel vs. DC: The Ultimate Battle to Decide Everything!

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#1  Edited By Or35ti

First let me start by saying that I'm sorry if this has been done before with these exact same characters.

The fight takes place on Battleworld (from Secret Wars)

Marvel team:

Captain America

Daredevil

Hulk

Iron Man

Jean Grey

Namor

Spider-Man

Storm

Thor

Wolverine

DC team:

Aquaman

Batman

Captain Marvel

The Flash (Barry Allen)

Green Arrow

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

Nightwing

Supergirl

Superman

Wonder Woman

Fight ends with Death or KO of all members of the losing team. NO BFR.

IN CHARACTER

MORALS: ON

BEGIN!!!

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#2  Edited By mrtrevorguy

marvel wins VIA Jean Grey

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#4  Edited By mrtrevorguy

@Enzeru: oh i know its usually the case, people don't know how to do good Marvel VS DC matchups any more i was just throwing that out there as Marvel's only hope

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#5  Edited By Saren

DC. Spite.

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#6  Edited By Or35ti

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Hulk vs. Superman

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

But yh it sounds pretty even to me, and certainly not a sure win for DC

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#7  Edited By Saren
@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Hulk vs. Superman

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

But yh it sounds pretty even to me, and certainly not a sure win for DC

Who says it's a matchup? Flash, Superman, Supergirl and Wonder Woman can all speedblitz.
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#8  Edited By Or35ti

@CitizenBanesaid:

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Hulk vs. Superman

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

But yh it sounds pretty even to me, and certainly not a sure win for DC

Who says it's a matchup? Flash, Superman, Supergirl and Wonder Woman can all speedblitz.

So can Thor, and most of the Marvel characters reflexes and durability would make it difficult to instantly KO all of them . Do you think it would help if I added NO SPEEDBLITZ?

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#9  Edited By Saren
@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBanesaid:

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Hulk vs. Superman

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

But yh it sounds pretty even to me, and certainly not a sure win for DC

Who says it's a matchup? Flash, Superman, Supergirl and Wonder Woman can all speedblitz.

So can Thor, and most of the Marvel characters reflexes and durability would make it difficult to instantly KO all of them . Do you think it would help if I added NO SPEEDBLITZ?

Flash would decimate Thor. And whose durability is going to match up to a Superman punch? DC stomps.
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#10  Edited By super_psycho

Flash solos

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#11  Edited By Saren
@super_psycho said:

Flash solos

This.
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#12  Edited By super_psycho

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Debatable

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Debatable

Hulk vs. Superman

Superman Stomps

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Lantern Stomps

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Aquaman mindrapes him

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Wrong, Wonder woman stomps

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

Debatable

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

Flash will K.O them before they can even blink

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#13  Edited By Or35ti

@CitizenBane said:

@super_psycho said:

Flash solos

This.

Why does everyone rate Flash as so overpowered on these forums? If he could solo so many powerhouses so easily why doesn't he do this every day in comics when he's fighting Parademons with the JLA?

@super_psycho said:

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Debatable

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Debatable

Hulk vs. Superman

Superman Stomps

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Lantern Stomps

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Aquaman mindrapes him

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Wrong, Wonder woman stomps

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

Debatable

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

Flash will K.O them before they can even blink

I know you're gonna say that crossovers aren't canon, but in DC vs. Marvel Wonder Woman even had Mjolnir and Storm still beat her, if my memory is correct. Thor also beat Captain Marvel. and can't Jean Grey just put Flash in a stasis field?

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#14  Edited By Saren
@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane said:

@super_psycho said:

Flash solos

This.

Why does everyone rate Flash as so overpowered on these forums? If he could solo so many powerhouses so easily why doesn't he do this every day in comics when he's fighting Parademons with the JLA?

@super_psycho said:

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Debatable

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Debatable

Hulk vs. Superman

Superman Stomps

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Lantern Stomps

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Aquaman mindrapes him

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Wrong, Wonder woman stomps

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

Debatable

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

Flash will K.O them before they can even blink

I know you're gonna say that crossovers aren't canon, but in DC vs. Marvel Wonder Woman even had Mjolnir and Storm still beat her, if my memory is correct. Thor also beat Captain Marvel. and can't Jean Grey just put Flash in a stasis field?

Flash isn't always moving at his full power, unless he's facing people like Zoom. He can and has solo'd powerhouses. 
 
Crossovers aren't canon for a reason: they're bullshit. Wonder Woman is millions of times faster than Storm, and one punch from Diana would spray Storm all over the wall. Thor beating Captain Marvel is highly debatable. Jean Grey simply isn't fast enough to do anything to Flash. He'd KO her with a forehead tap.
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@super_psycho said:

Flash solos

This.

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#16  Edited By LordStoop

current jean wil win.

Flash can hit a White Phoenix of the Crown for days and not do anything to her.

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#17  Edited By super_psycho

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane said:

@super_psycho said:

Flash solos

This.

Why does everyone rate Flash as so overpowered on these forums? If he could solo so many powerhouses so easily why doesn't he do this every day in comics when he's fighting Parademons with the JLA?

@super_psycho said:

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

Captain America vs. Batman - not sure who wins

Debatable

Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Debatable

Hulk vs. Superman

Superman Stomps

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Lantern Stomps

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Aquaman mindrapes him

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Wrong, Wonder woman stomps

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

Debatable

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

Flash will K.O them before they can even blink

I know you're gonna say that crossovers aren't canon, but in DC vs. Marvel Wonder Woman even had Mjolnir and Storm still beat her, if my memory is correct. Thor also beat Captain Marvel. and can't Jean Grey just put Flash in a stasis field?

wonder woman didn't use mjolnir in that fight and that fight was fan voted just like lobo vs wolverine.

Wonder woman can takeout 100000 storms with little effort.

Thor vs Captain marvel is highly debatable.. Captain marvel will win becoz his teammates will help him .

Jean doesn't have super fast reaction time she is like statue for flash.

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#18  Edited By Saren
@LordStoop said:

current jean wil win.

Flash can hit a White Phoenix of the Crown for days and not do anything to her.

It says nothing about the Phoenix Force, not that it matters considering how much the PF jobs.
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#19  Edited By Saren

Diana could run past Ororo and the sonic boom would kill her.

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#20  Edited By LordStoop

@CitizenBane: the rules say that if it is not clear what version of a character is in the fight, it is the current version.

the current version of jean is the White Phoenix of the Crown.

So the post should have been Jean Grey (no Phoenix), but wasn't so it is a Jean stomp.

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#21  Edited By Saren
@LordStoop said:

@CitizenBane: the rules say that if it is not clear what version of a character is in the fight, it is the current version.

the current version of jean is the White Phoenix of the Crown.

So the post should have been Jean Grey (no Phoenix), but wasn't so it is a Jean stomp.

If it was the current versions, everyone on DC are the post-Flashpoint versions, Thor is dying from his Galactus Seed injury, Hulk is Nul, Captain America is the Spider-King and Green Lantern is powerless. We don't assume that, do we?  Be logical.
 
And PF is an external agent. 
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#22  Edited By LordStoop

I'm just stating the rules.

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#23  Edited By Labyrinth

@CitizenBane said:

Flash isn't always moving at his full power, unless he's facing people like Zoom. He can and has solo'd powerhouses. Wonder Woman is millions of times faster than Storm, and one punch from Diana would spray Storm all over the wall.

I agree.

However, the OP states that this is a "Morals on" battle. Does the Flash and gang normally speed blitz?

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@Labyrinth said:

@CitizenBane said:

Flash isn't always moving at his full power, unless he's facing people like Zoom. He can and has solo'd powerhouses. Wonder Woman is millions of times faster than Storm, and one punch from Diana would spray Storm all over the wall.

I agree.

However, the OP states that this is a "Morals on" battle. Does the Flash and gang normally speed blitz?

Morals on doesn't mean in character. It just means no killing. Which is weird since the OP says the battle is to the death or KO. Flash doesn't normally meet opponents he needs to speedblitz. However, if he was directed to blitz the team or if he encountered someone on Superman's level, he would.
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#25  Edited By Or35ti

@CitizenBane said:

@Labyrinth said:

@CitizenBane said:

Flash isn't always moving at his full power, unless he's facing people like Zoom. He can and has solo'd powerhouses. Wonder Woman is millions of times faster than Storm, and one punch from Diana would spray Storm all over the wall.

I agree.

However, the OP states that this is a "Morals on" battle. Does the Flash and gang normally speed blitz?

Morals on doesn't mean in character. It just means no killing. Which is weird since the OP says the battle is to the death or KO. Flash doesn't normally meet opponents he needs to speedblitz. However, if he was directed to blitz the team or if he encountered someone on Superman's level, he would.

I'll add In Character, my bad I thought they were the same thing.

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#26  Edited By TheMightyAvenger

Team DC, easily I believe. Only ones that would last longer would be Hulk, Thor and perhaps Namor.

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#27  Edited By Or35ti

@TheMightyAvenger said:

Team DC, easily I believe. Only ones that would last longer would be Hulk, Thor and perhaps Namor.

I think Wolverine could last for a while as well and maybe even Iron Man or Jean

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#28  Edited By Xtremeperson

If Jean Gray is Phoenix, Marvel stomps easily.

Otherwise DC stomps easily - Superman, Flash, GL, WW, and CM > Thor and Hulk. Everyone else is really a nonfactor.

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#29  Edited By LordOfAllHumans
@CitizenBane said:
@LordStoop said:

@CitizenBane: the rules say that if it is not clear what version of a character is in the fight, it is the current version.

the current version of jean is the White Phoenix of the Crown.

So the post should have been Jean Grey (no Phoenix), but wasn't so it is a Jean stomp.

If it was the current versions, everyone on DC are the post-Flashpoint versions, Thor is dying from his Galactus Seed injury, Hulk is Nul, Captain America is the Spider-King and Green Lantern is powerless. We don't assume that, do we?  Be logical. And PF is an external agent. 
If the current versions are dying, dead or powerless then we would of course not use them logically, but currently Jean Grey is one with the Phoenix Force, and not an external force (don't know why that matters anyway, Tony Stark is Iron Man because of his suit, external,  the green lantern rings are external power sources, Captain Marvels powers are an external source and so is the Speed Force.)
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#30  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

Flash takes out everyone except Thor...who Superman and ww can deal with

if you wanted a battle to decide everything, i would have used just street levelers, that would have been much closer

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I would say DC easily takes this one.

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#32  Edited By LordOfAllHumans

Like others said before, Jean in a stomp.

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#33  Edited By PikminMania

@Or35ti: That wasn't canon, JLA vs Avengers was. In that WW is stonger than Storm

If you want to know how the fights go, here:

@super_psycho said:

@Or35ti said:

@CitizenBane: It's not spite. In my mind here's how it goes:

CaptainAmerica vs . Batman


Daredevil vs. Nightwing (or) Green Arrow - not sure who wins

Debatable

Hulk vs. Superman

Superman Stomps

Iron Man vs. Green Lantern

Lantern Stomps

Namor vs. Aquaman - not sure who wins

Aquaman mindrapes him

Storm vs. Wonder Woman

Wrong, Wonder woman stomps

Thor vs. Captain Marvel

Debatable

and then Jean Grey, Spider-Man and Wolverine vs. The Flash and Supergirl in which Marvel probably wins due to Jean Grey

Flash will K.O them before they can even blink

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#34  Edited By Saren

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@CitizenBane said:
@LordStoop said:

@CitizenBane: the rules say that if it is not clear what version of a character is in the fight, it is the current version.

the current version of jean is the White Phoenix of the Crown.

So the post should have been Jean Grey (no Phoenix), but wasn't so it is a Jean stomp.

If it was the current versions, everyone on DC are the post-Flashpoint versions, Thor is dying from his Galactus Seed injury, Hulk is Nul, Captain America is the Spider-King and Green Lantern is powerless. We don't assume that, do we? Be logical. And PF is an external agent.
If the current versions are dying, dead or powerless then we would of course not use them logically, but currently Jean Grey is one with the Phoenix Force, and not an external force (don't know why that matters anyway, Tony Stark is Iron Man because of his suit, external, the green lantern rings are external power sources, Captain Marvels powers are an external source and so is the Speed Force.)

I've said this before. An agent is not the same as a power source. The Speed Force cannot think for itself, can it?

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#35  Edited By LordOfAllHumans
@CitizenBane said:

@LordOfAllHumans said:

@CitizenBane said:

@LordStoop said:

@CitizenBane: the rules say that if it is not clear what version of a character is in the fight, it is the current version.

the current version of jean is the White Phoenix of the Crown.

So the post should have been Jean Grey (no Phoenix), but wasn't so it is a Jean stomp.

If it was the current versions, everyone on DC are the post-Flashpoint versions, Thor is dying from his Galactus Seed injury, Hulk is Nul, Captain America is the Spider-King and Green Lantern is powerless. We don't assume that, do we? Be logical. And PF is an external agent.
If the current versions are dying, dead or powerless then we would of course not use them logically, but currently Jean Grey is one with the Phoenix Force, and not an external force (don't know why that matters anyway, Tony Stark is Iron Man because of his suit, external, the green lantern rings are external power sources, Captain Marvels powers are an external source and so is the Speed Force.)

I've said this before. An agent is not the same as a power source. The Speed Force cannot think for itself, can it?

there is still no point in you mentioning the Phoenix being an external agent, in regards to Jean Grey they are now the same being so it is not an external agent, and in it's natural state it is not sentient either, which is why it uses hosts and avatars, if it gains sentience without one the future dies.  Current Jean is Phoenix and stomps regardless.
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#36  Edited By super_psycho

@The Stegman said:

Flash takes out everyone except Thor...who Superman and ww can deal with

if you wanted a battle to decide everything, i would have used just street levelers, that would have been much closer

Flash doesn't wonder woman or superman's help to defeat thor. He can deal with thor after he is done with others

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#37  Edited By Gnarly_Artist

What? You couldn't give Marvel a Silver Surfer or a Hyperion or a Sentry? DC gets two Kryptonians, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel and the freaking Flash? Why the hell did the rest of the DC team show up? Free tickets to the beat down? It would be an epic fight for Thor to fight any of those big guns one on one. He surely cannot take them all on and he is the only real factor on the Marvel side. Hulk would sorta kinda put up a fight but he's down fast due to DC's air superiority and speed advantages.

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#38  Edited By eatmore_payless

Barry could solo all marvel team because of the fact that he is the speed force

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#39  Edited By Mysterioz

Barry Allen solo's

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#40  Edited By TheCannon

@mrtrevorguy said:

marvel wins VIA Jean Grey

This.

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#41  Edited By blackadamFTW

@CitizenBane said:

DC. Spite.

Yep.

This is a super stomp if I've ever seen one.

Over half of the people on team 1 could beat her, so no. Just no.

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#42  Edited By jeanroygrant

@Enzerusaid:

The Marvel team has so many non-factors, it's not even funny, while the DC team is full of powerhouses.
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#43  Edited By darktiger

@jeanroygrant said:

@Enzerusaid:

The Marvel team has so many non-factors, it's not even funny, while the DC team is full of powerhouses.

agreed I am going for dc