Marvel vs DC Telepath Battle

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#1  Edited By BlueGreenGavin

Marvel:

Emma Frost

Professor X

Cassandra Nova

DC:

Manchester Black

Despero

Starro the Conqueror

Rules:

1: Only telepathy can be used. (No punches,kicks or any physical strikes. Plain telepathy only)

2. No Jobbing,PIS

3. Win by any means necessary

4. Random Encounter. No prep.

5. Battle takes place in the X mansion

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Professor solos.

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@jehova: no he dosent but pheonix does

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Team 2

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can TK be used

i am prepared to catch heat for this but xavier has more feats and has entered the minds of more powerful telepaths then despero.

phoenix emma vs starro is the question

Cassandra is going to leach off Manchester black for a while.

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Team 1

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Why isn't MMH in there?

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Team 1. Generally speaking I tend to find Marvel TPs more impressive.

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#12  Edited By RealityWarper

What is the point in a fight between Marvel's Earth-ranged telepath against DC's Galaxy-ranged telepath ?
Put telepaths from each universe on the same level.

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Either Despero or Starro solos

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@realitywarper: xavier and pheonix emma are can reach across galaxies with there telepathy.

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@realitywarper: xavier and pheonix emma are can reach across galaxies with there telepathy.

I changed my post. ^^ Rethinked about it : )

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DC

Those aren't Marvel's best telphaths

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Starro the Conqueror solo's everyone here with extreme ease.

A single Starro gives MM trouble. The Conqueror controls the entire race on top of being empowered by possibly billions if not trillions of minds.

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You have arguably Dc strongest telepaths, against Marvel's nowhere near best telepaths; anyway Dc telepaths win this fight.

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Starro solos.

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@dondave: Agreed. Despero can solo this with ease. Unless it's New 52 Despero. Don't know much about Starro.

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@dondave said:

Either Despero or Starro solos

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@dondave: Agreed. Despero can solo this with ease. Unless it's New 52 Despero. Don't know much about Starro.

Starro controlled nine Galaxies. One Galaxy can hold 100 billion planets.

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Despero solos

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Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

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@dondave said:

Either Despero or Starro solos

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Starro solos

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@koays said:

Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

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@koays said:

Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

Despero has consistently crushed Martian Manhunter (untill the n52), a telepath that constantly goes up against other telepaths of great power and wins and has feats that would be equal or stronger than Professor X. Desperro solos. Starro has litterally controlled entire Galaxies, the mental fortitude required for that is far far far beyond Proffessor X.

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#31  Edited By gav

Marvel should be: Professor X, Thanos and Sentry

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@koays said:

Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

Despero has consistently crushed Martian Manhunter (untill the n52), a telepath that constantly goes up against other telepaths of great power and wins and has feats that would be equal or stronger than Professor X. Desperro solos. Starro has litterally controlled entire Galaxies, the mental fortitude required for that is far far far beyond Proffessor X.

Is Starro actually psychic though?

He's always been a more physical gestalt, more like Phalanx or the Borg with a biological rather than technological basis.

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#34  Edited By TheMagicStik

@tyger said:

@themagicstik said:

@koays said:

Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

Despero has consistently crushed Martian Manhunter (untill the n52), a telepath that constantly goes up against other telepaths of great power and wins and has feats that would be equal or stronger than Professor X. Desperro solos. Starro has litterally controlled entire Galaxies, the mental fortitude required for that is far far far beyond Proffessor X.

Is Starro actually psychic though?

He's always been a more physical gestalt, more like Phalanx or the Borg with a biological rather than technological basis.

Well there's a difference between Starro and Starro the Conqueror, Starro is the starfish, Starro the Conqueror is a humanoid that mentally controls all the Starro of nine galaxies.

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@koays said:

Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

Despero has consistently crushed Martian Manhunter (untill the n52), a telepath that constantly goes up against other telepaths of great power and wins and has feats that would be equal or stronger than Professor X. Desperro solos. Starro has litterally controlled entire Galaxies, the mental fortitude required for that is far far far beyond Proffessor X.

Yea....and yet Starro is defeated by non telepaths repeatedly. Starro has power, and only power and in a very specific straight forward way....Cassandra Nova takes him and not in a match of power but because of the nature of her powers. Or we can say Starro tries to solo, but letting Emma Frost into the Skrull and Cuckoo hiveminds let her bring them down....so locking her, Cassandra Nova and Xavier in will likely allow the same trick with their combined powers.

Martian Manhunter isn't Prof X level. Maybe in power but again Marvel telepaths aren't just about power, their about skills, tricks and deceptions just as much. As strong as Despero is he himself is probably closer to what Xavier levels are believed to be. And again Xavier has mentally battled the phoenix and had to be strangled in order to be put down...which is illegal in this match.

Versatility is what gives Marvel the edge here, Starro will likely be a team effort, but Xavier has done a lot of power creeping in the past decade that makes it so he's the Ace in this match.


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#36  Edited By TheMagicStik

@koays said:

@themagicstik said:

@koays said:

Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

Despero has consistently crushed Martian Manhunter (untill the n52), a telepath that constantly goes up against other telepaths of great power and wins and has feats that would be equal or stronger than Professor X. Desperro solos. Starro has litterally controlled entire Galaxies, the mental fortitude required for that is far far far beyond Proffessor X.

Yea....and yet Starro is defeated by non telepaths repeatedly. Starro has power, and only power and in a very specific straight forward way....Cassandra Nova takes him and not in a match of power but because of the nature of her powers. Or we can say Starro tries to solo, but letting Emma Frost into the Skrull and Cuckoo hiveminds let her bring them down....so locking her, Cassandra Nova and Xavier in will likely allow the same trick with their combined powers.

Martian Manhunter isn't Prof X level. Maybe in power but again Marvel telepaths aren't just about power, their about skills, tricks and deceptions just as much. As strong as Despero is he himself is probably closer to what Xavier levels are believed to be. And again Xavier has mentally battled the phoenix and had to be strangled in order to be put down...which is illegal in this match.

Versatility is what gives Marvel the edge here, Starro will likely be a team effort, but Xavier has done a lot of power creeping in the past decade that makes it so he's the Ace in this match.

You're just wrong about most things you said. Here's Desperro trying to take down Starro in a mental battle.

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Starro is out of everybodies league here period.

And yeah Martian Manhunter isn't Prof X level, he's much better and more experienced than Prof X. J'onn has manipulated the minds of everybody on earth at once or probed them on several occasions, he has taken on the entire Justice League with just mental manipulation, he was subconcsciously manipulating the entire Martian race and keeping them from entering the afterlife, he can erase mind blocks and probe deep corners of peoples mind that they didn't even know existed, he can create advanced illusions for people with powerful TP resistance, he can probe the mind of the Spectre, he can break the mental defenses of freaking Mageddon (the solar system sized being of pure destruction), and constantly beats people on or above Prof X's TP levels.

Despero is even more powerful than MMH and Starro is even more powerful than Despero...

Versatility and power is in DC's court. Marvel gets curbed here.

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Team DC curbstomps

Starro mindrapes prof x into attacking others.

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Starro could solo. Despero? eh not so much.

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@koays said:

@themagicstik said:

@koays said:

Ummm in general the Marvel Telepaths have more feats skills, and experience in psychic battles. All we've seen from DC's telepaths is what the Marvel telepaths consider raw strength....and Prof X and Emma especially have a history of beating people with more power then them. Prof X could almost solo if it weren't for Starro.

Despero has consistently crushed Martian Manhunter (untill the n52), a telepath that constantly goes up against other telepaths of great power and wins and has feats that would be equal or stronger than Professor X. Desperro solos. Starro has litterally controlled entire Galaxies, the mental fortitude required for that is far far far beyond Proffessor X.

Yea....and yet Starro is defeated by non telepaths repeatedly. Starro has power, and only power and in a very specific straight forward way....Cassandra Nova takes him and not in a match of power but because of the nature of her powers. Or we can say Starro tries to solo, but letting Emma Frost into the Skrull and Cuckoo hiveminds let her bring them down....so locking her, Cassandra Nova and Xavier in will likely allow the same trick with their combined powers.

Martian Manhunter isn't Prof X level. Maybe in power but again Marvel telepaths aren't just about power, their about skills, tricks and deceptions just as much. As strong as Despero is he himself is probably closer to what Xavier levels are believed to be. And again Xavier has mentally battled the phoenix and had to be strangled in order to be put down...which is illegal in this match.

Versatility is what gives Marvel the edge here, Starro will likely be a team effort, but Xavier has done a lot of power creeping in the past decade that makes it so he's the Ace in this match.

You're just wrong about most things you said. Here's Desperro trying to take down Starro in a mental battle.

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Starro is out of everybodies league here period.

And yeah Martian Manhunter isn't Prof X level, he's much better and more experienced than Prof X. J'onn has manipulated the minds of everybody on earth at once or probed them on several occasions, he has taken on the entire Justice League with just mental manipulation, he was subconcsciously manipulating the entire Martian race and keeping them from entering the afterlife, he can erase mind blocks and probe deep corners of peoples mind that they didn't even know existed, he can create advanced illusions for people with powerful TP resistance, he can probe the mind of the Spectre, he can break the mental defenses of freaking Mageddon (the solar system sized being of pure destruction), and constantly beats people on or above Prof X's TP levels.

Despero is even more powerful than MMH and Starro is even more powerful than Despero...

Versatility and power is in DC's court. Marvel gets curbed here.

I'll give you Starro if he's got offense (which i just haven't seen). Though still if there's a group that can take him down psychically it's this one.

Xavier has gone toe to toe with the Phoenix (the embodiment of all psionic energy), even in a losing effort he proves to be unmatched skill wise. Xavier scans galaxies and the dna codes the planet before breakfast (and no, cerebro is not the reason for this). He talks to people in galaxies that are 100s of lightyears away. Uses the thoughts of planets as a weapon against his opponents...sorry i said opponents when i meant freakin' Galactus. Fights telepaths that are immensely powerful while hundreds of miles away. defeating multiple mystical enemies with magical based psychic defenses(Juggernaut the avatar of a god being most obvious). He holds back sure, but Xavier has feats that even those claiming "strongest Marvel TP" over him have yet to match....and again theres just more depth to his skill then we've seen from Manhunter who is exceptionally powerful but doesn't face people nearly as skilled.

The rules of TP in marvel tend to be that the more skilled psychic wins, unless theres an insurmountable power gap. Starro might be that, but Despero is not. Just being powerful isnt enough to take this group..not with Xavier and Nova being at about the same level

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Xavier has gone toe to toe with the Phoenix (the embodiment of all psionic energy), even in a losing effort he proves to be unmatched skill wise.

Yeah in the Marvel Universe Charles is almost unmatched in his psychic skill but a large part of that is his power. When Charles goes up against the Phoenix he loses, he may be able to manipulate a mind like Cyclops when he's confused and scared but somebody that's going all out like Dark Phoenix Jean Grey he has no hope against past a couple seconds of battle.

Xavier scans galaxies and the dna codes the planet before breakfast (and no, cerebro is not the reason for this).

Do you have a scan of scanning a galaxy? I don't think I've ever seen one of that and I'm not sure what "dna codes the planet before breakfast" means.

He talks to people in galaxies that are 100s of lightyears away.

MMH does this kind of thing all the time, often times he's the means of communication between multiple members of the JL over impossible spans of space.

Uses the thoughts of planets as a weapon against his opponents...sorry i said opponents when i meant freakin' Galactus.

Yeah this is an impressive feat but MMH has done the exact same thing against an equally powerful female Martian and it actually worked, I don't think Xavier actually bested Galactus in that encounter, Galactus was just like "Impressive, ok bro I'll leave you alone".

Fights telepaths that are immensely powerful while hundreds of miles away. defeating multiple mystical enemies with magical based psychic defenses(Juggernaut the avatar of a god being most obvious).

Another thing J'onn does all the time, J'onn beat the mystical defenses of the freaking Spectre, I mean there is not much topping that.

He holds back sure, but Xavier has feats that even those claiming "strongest Marvel TP" over him have yet to match....and again theres just more depth to his skill then we've seen from Manhunter who is exceptionally powerful but doesn't face people nearly as skilled.

Xavier loses to Thanos and Phoenix level characters, MMH basically just loses to Despero who is a cosmically empowered being and a multi team buster in his own right. I don't see Xavier beating MMH, and there is no way he beats Despero.

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@koays said:

@themagicstik: Martian Manhunter vs Xavier most of @roddy010's argument echoes my own and i believe he has the images in question on the first page.

I'm looking through it, no solar system-galaxy level feats, he fights the Phoenix and wins because Jean is struggling against the Phoenix and explicitly states he would have lost if not for that. J'onn broke through Mageddon's defenses, a Solar System sized monsterous weapon of war who manipulated a planet of gods into killing each other.

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Prof. X solos.

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starro actually isn't a telepath. He achieves mind control through a pareasitic and symbiotic relationship with his subject.

Those saying Xavier solos couldn't be more wrong. Xavier is MMH level, Manchester black is above Jonn and Despero can solo Jonn and Aquaman in combined TP battle

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Team 2, Despero is the threat.