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#1 Edited by terry2012 (4752 posts) - - Show Bio

This battle takes place from earth to the planet saturn. I know some of the participants can't breath in space but I will allow it and flying is band in this competition. Who wins this.

Marvel

1. The Blur

2. Makkari

3.The Runner

4. Spitfire

5.MeanStreak

6. Super Sabre

7. Spinner

8. NonStop

9. The Whizzer

10. Thunderbolt ( without aging)

DC

1. The Flash ( Barry Allen)

2. Zoom

3. Black Flash ( Black Racer)

4. Lady Flash

5. XS

6.Wally West

7. Impulse ( )

8. Jesse Quick

9. Kid Flash

10. Johnny Quick ( Johnny Chambers)

#2 Posted by izbighulk (590 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel Speedster

#3 Posted by Sufferthorn (1734 posts) - - Show Bio

@izbighulk:

....Wrong.....DC invented, revolutionized and OWN the Speedster genre of Supeheroes. There is nothing here that Marvel can compete with.

#4 Posted by SoA (4592 posts) - - Show Bio

DC , but why isnt Northstar or Quicksilver on here? lol

#5 Posted by terry2012 (4752 posts) - - Show Bio

@SoA: Because Quicksilver is to slow for them and Northstar speed is only flying base which I had band because I only pick the runners who runs on their feet.

#6 Posted by termiteone4ever (6685 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc got this The freak Zoom all the way

#7 Posted by izbighulk (590 posts) - - Show Bio

The Runner is the fastest

#8 Posted by Outside_85 (7075 posts) - - Show Bio

You do realize you put death itself on the DC team?

#9 Posted by HolySerpent (12337 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc stomps. Black racer solos

#10 Posted by EternalDecider (293 posts) - - Show Bio

@SoA said:

DC , but why isnt Northstar or Quicksilver on here? lol

yeah kinda what i was thinking as well

#11 Posted by EternalDecider (293 posts) - - Show Bio

@terry2012 said:

@SoA: Because Quicksilver is to slow for them and Northstar speed is only flying base which I had band because I only pick the runners who runs on their feet.

Woah thanks

#12 Posted by terry2012 (4752 posts) - - Show Bio

@EternalDecider: Your welcome

#13 Posted by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@izbighulk said:

The Runner is the fastest

At one point in time Makkari was the fastest in marvel, Runner and Makkari did have a running contest and Makkari won. Now however, this has been retconned and Makkari seems a lot slower.

However the fact is, neither Runner nor anyone here can be faster than Zoom (provided this is Zolomon and not Professor Zoom) because he manipulates time rather than gain superspeed which means his speed is potentially unlimited. So morals off Zoom can solo, he has already beaten 3 flashes in matter of 2 pannels.

@HolySerpent said:

Dc stomps. Black racer solos

Also this, since this is a battle i dont see how anyone here can even remotely hurt Black Racer.

#14 Posted by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@izbighulk said:

The Runner is the fastest

At one point in time Makkari was the fastest in marvel, Runner and Makkari did have a running contest and Makkari won. Now however, this has been retconned and Makkari seems a lot slower.

Makkari won with Runner? O_O 
When?
#15 Posted by izbighulk (590 posts) - - Show Bio

The Runner can use his emotion power to control someone

#16 Posted by Needlebay (1916 posts) - - Show Bio

DC.

#17 Posted by Saren (24303 posts) - - Show Bio

@Needlebay said:

DC.

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#18 Posted by Bernicky (379 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Needlebay said:

DC.

#19 Posted by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Makkari won with Runner? O_O When?

I think it was an old comics, someone posted scan here in comicvine. They had a straight race.

But then Makkari now is nowhere as fast.

#20 Posted by termiteone4ever (6685 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Killemall said:

@izbighulk said:

The Runner is the fastest

At one point in time Makkari was the fastest in marvel, Runner and Makkari did have a running contest and Makkari won. Now however, this has been retconned and Makkari seems a lot slower.

Makkari won with Runner? O_O When?

Yeah i am curious to see this . too .

#21 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Killemall said:

@izbighulk said:

The Runner is the fastest

At one point in time Makkari was the fastest in marvel, Runner and Makkari did have a running contest and Makkari won. Now however, this has been retconned and Makkari seems a lot slower.

Makkari won with Runner? O_O When?

Yeah i am curious to see this . too .

Same

#22 Edited by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: @termiteone4ever: @czarny_samael666: Couldnt find the scan, sorry, however found a link that describes what happened.

Check the link out, its the second paragraph, that apparently happened in Quasar 58.

Hope this help, i am currently looking for the issue will get back with scan if i happen to get it.

sorry gave you the wrong link:

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/galacticmarathon.htm

#23 Edited by czarny_samael666 (16629 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Makkari won with Runner? O_O When?

I think it was an old comics, someone posted scan here in comicvine. They had a straight race.

But then Makkari now is nowhere as fast.

Are You talking about race between best speedsters?
 
EDIT:
 
So yes. Then Runner wasn't a part of that race.
#24 Posted by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Are You talking about race between best speedsters?

The race was called galactic race to find who's fastest in the galaxy. Even the living tribunal and eternity were watching. There is one more dude with them dont know who he is though.

The scan of makkari beating runner is below.

@termiteone4ever: @czarny_samael666:@jeanroygrant: Good new finally found the scan.

#25 Posted by Billy Batson (56869 posts) - - Show Bio

DC.
BB

#26 Posted by Deranged Midget (17598 posts) - - Show Bio

@HolySerpent said:

Dc stomps. Black racer solos
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#27 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Are You talking about race between best speedsters?

The race was called galactic race to find who's fastest in the galaxy. Even the living tribunal and eternity were watching. There is one more dude with them dont know who he is though.

The scan of makkari beating runner is below.

@termiteone4ever: @czarny_samael666:@jeanroygrant: Good new finally found the scan.

Thanks

#28 Posted by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Thanks

No worries mate!

#29 Edited by termiteone4ever (6685 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Are You talking about race between best speedsters?

The race was called galactic race to find who's fastest in the galaxy. Even the living tribunal and eternity were watching. There is one more dude with them dont know who he is though.

The scan of makkari beating runner is below.

@termiteone4ever: @czarny_samael666:@jeanroygrant: Good new finally found the scan.

Thanks man you the best.

Until next debate lol :)

Now he said he become light is that moving at light speed?

#30 Posted by Mina319 (219 posts) - - Show Bio

Wally solos, Speed force ftw

#31 Posted by Void_Paladin (901 posts) - - Show Bio

DC

#32 Posted by baron2011 (1151 posts) - - Show Bio

dc

#33 Posted by thanobomb1124 (2000 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc should win. Easy race

#34 Posted by crackerjack82 (2606 posts) - - Show Bio

2. Makkari

3.The Runner

are the only ones in all of marvel who even have a slight chance of competing

#35 Posted by Jezer (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

Both Makkari and The Runner should be able to compete with Zoom via Absolute Speed, which is basically the same concept of Zoom's "world"/stopping his personal timeline where everyone is frozen.

#36 Posted by Joygirl (15327 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure DC wipes this.

#37 Posted by thanobomb1124 (2000 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't zoom get tired before he reaches saturn?

#38 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (9820 posts) - - Show Bio

DC wins. They basically invented speed in comics.

#39 Posted by BMEZY (1201 posts) - - Show Bio

dC spite-ish?!? :D

#40 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

DC

#41 Posted by weaponx25 (50 posts) - - Show Bio

Barry allen is the very source of the speed of the speed force apparently generating it with every step, can run faster than the speed of light, time travel, lend speed, steal away speed, and many other things DC has got this all the way.

#42 Posted by sandiego008 (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

@Killemall said:

The scan of makkari beating runner is below.

You do know afterwards makkari hit , what I call , absolute speed and runner had to save him from it right? Sure he won the race but he hit a speed he couldn't control, a speed runner, in theory can. If runner wasn't there he would've been stuck in absolute speed forever.

So IMO runner is quicker than makkari.

#43 Posted by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008 said:

You do know afterwards makkari hit , what I call , absolute speed and runner had to save him from it right? Sure he won the race but he hit a speed he couldn't control, a speed runner, in theory can. If runner wasn't there he would've been stuck in absolute speed forever.

So IMO runner is quicker than makkari.

I dont really understand what you mean by that sentence.

If you are talking about reaction time than i would assume Runner has better reaction time based on his feats , however no quantifiable measurement has been given for either (the best quantified reaction time in marvel, to the best of my knoweledge, goes to Daredevil as weird as it may be and almost certainly its PIS). However when it comes to speed based on what happened in Quasar Volume 1, Issue 58, i have to assume Makkari was faster. His current showings hasnt been great so i am not going to comment on it, it might just have been one hit wonder.

But since Makkari has actually beaten Runner in a race where of course Runner has absolutely no reason to go slow, and beaten him by quite a margin.

#44 Posted by termiteone4ever (6685 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandiego008 said:

@Killemall said:

The scan of makkari beating runner is below.

You do know afterwards makkari hit , what I call , absolute speed and runner had to save him from it right? Sure he won the race but he hit a speed he couldn't control, a speed runner, in theory can. If runner wasn't there he would've been stuck in absolute speed forever.

So IMO runner is quicker than makkari.

I am pretty sure the comic said he has become light. IMO opinion that only translates as light speeds. Now correct me if am wrong but thats nothing to the Flashes to reach. This took so much effort for Makkari. So i dont see him or the Runner winning. Now if you have the rest of the scan you can post it to back up your theory . Of how runner saved him. If runner ran him down from behind and caught him then he is faster . But if he cuts him off or intercepts him well that's a different argument

#45 Posted by Killemall (16956 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

I am pretty sure the comic said he has become light. IMO opinion that only translates as light speeds. Now correct me if am wrong but thats nothing to the Flashes to reach. This took so much effort for Makkari. So i dont see him or the Runner winning. Now if you have the rest of the scan you can post it to back up your theory . Of how runner saved him. If runner ran him down from behind and caught him then he is faster . But if he cuts him off or intercepts him well that's a different argument

Totally and completely agree with this. Also if you are interested the race scan and very next scans are as below which sadly doesnt support his argument, i am hoping he can clear it up for us, till then the scans are for you to see and judge as you see fit:

the only possible thing against Flash winning could be the fact that scan says "he became light which moves the top possible speed in the universe", so whatever speed he reached be it light speed or otherwise is like the highest speed attainable in (marvel) universe.

#46 Posted by Godabed (353 posts) - - Show Bio
@Killemall said:

@termiteone4ever said:

I am pretty sure the comic said he has become light. IMO opinion that only translates as light speeds. Now correct me if am wrong but thats nothing to the Flashes to reach. This took so much effort for Makkari. So i dont see him or the Runner winning. Now if you have the rest of the scan you can post it to back up your theory . Of how runner saved him. If runner ran him down from behind and caught him then he is faster . But if he cuts him off or intercepts him well that's a different argument

Totally and completely agree with this. Also if you are interested the race scan and very next scans are as below which sadly doesnt support his argument, i am hoping he can clear it up for us, till then the scans are for you to see and judge as you see fit:

the only possible thing against Flash winning could be the fact that scan says "he became light which moves the top possible speed in the universe", so whatever speed he reached be it light speed or otherwise is like the highest speed attainable in (marvel) universe.

Makkari, could already move at light speed. So could the rest of the beings in the Universal race. If you have those scans, then you should also have the scans where the Runner explains exactly how fast Makkari was actually moving. Because Makkari couldn't slow down after the race, only FlashForward, Cosmo, and Runner were unfrozen to him.  FlashForward, could have actually won the race but he stopped to help Makkari with the Duracel bunny guy.  I'm surprised FlashForward isn't on the Marvel list. In the world's fastest race (quasar), FlashForward won, but he did kind of have unfair entry, it was also implied that Flashforward was faster than the runner. 
#47 Posted by terry2012 (4752 posts) - - Show Bio

@Godabed: I'm sorry I didn't know anything about the FlashForward. If I did I would have most definitely would have put him up there. Thanks for letting me know now I know better.

#48 Edited by NeonBlade (172 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think everyone including me knows enough about the Runner. Is this a race or a fight? All I can remember about the Runner is that is he immortal with crazy cosmic powers when was the last time the Runner was in a comic line?

@Godabed: You'd think with how they brought back Nova and his comics hard, the Runner would atleast have a cameo, they even brought back Quasar for Gods sake, I can't find a single feat for the runner.

#49 Posted by Godabed (353 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeonBlade said:

I don't think everyone including me knows enough about the Runner. Is this a race or a fight? All I can remember about the Runner is that is he immortal with crazy cosmic powers when was the last time the Runner was in a comic line?

The Runner has becomes the Essence of the Running in the marvel universe, he became one of the elders of the Universe in 616. At one point he did have the space gem which made in the fastest thing in the entire marvel uni but he lost it.  The Runner also scouted for beings who possessed great speeds and they had to be runners. In each universe he would hold competitions to see who the fastest were so they could then participate in other races.   Hmm i don't know when the last time i saw him in a storyline.
 
@terry2012: In Quasar, The Runner holds two such races, one for the Earth's fastest, which had the participants race to the moon, Flashforward won that one, but he didn't start at the same time as the others did. He was shown to be almost as fast as the Runner. Makkari, would have won otherwise. In the second Race it was a race across the Universe, the winner of that race would participate in a Galactic race.  Flashforward because he won the previous one, was in this one.  Makkari had to earn his spot which he did, it's said by Makkari that he had been practicing and had become even faster. The Runner actually participated in this race, Flashforward, Makkari, the Runner, and the evil Duracel bunny guy, were the last four near the finish line.  The Evil Duracel bunny was sabotaging the other racers.  Flashforward see that the bunny is going to try an trip up Makkari, and Flashforwards stops him. It gets down to Makkari and Runner, and Makkari starts catching the runner. As you can read in the scan, he kind of wills himself to go beyond his speeds, and beats the Runner.  Makkari is then approached by Cosmo, to represent him in the next Galactic Race, to which the Runner was suppose to be Cosmo's champion in that race.  Makkari is later told that he is moving so fast that only beings with a certain perception (paraphrasing) can interact with him, everything else will seem frozen. 

hmm i don't remember the issue numbers, story i'm not at home.
#50 Posted by chriconz123 (582 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Racer solos.