@ghostravage: im glad you admitted your biased. now moving on to the scans that you wanted. here you go
elaine belloc became the presence at the end of the series.
ALL SCANS ARE FROM RIGHT TO LEFT
first off she absorbed her father's demiurgic power and created a third creation alongside yahweh's and lucifer's (issue 57)
^that's from issue 58
then the presence gives elaine the responisbility of God and she merges the three creations becoming God (issue 69)
so using elaine in a battle forum is using the presence indirectly
franklin (adult) was able to fight the celestials, the same celestials who have tanked a universal version of the infinity gauntlet on occasions, sure, but that doesn't mean he is anywhere near the living tribunal whose name i see thrown around casually in this thread, he's only second to TOAA.
Suuuuureee... Im the one biased... Anyway, LT is above all of them... I've never said AFR was LT lvl... You sure know how to manipulate info huh?
As for the scans... It suggests she an universal being and basically God in her own world... That's what the guy is telling her, that a third world was created and the name they're yelling is hers... She's not anything close to the Presence as long as she's not in her world. The presence is above everyone in the DCverse... Not to mention she was created by Vertigo mostly.
what? are you serious?
you do know that what she merged was yahweh's multiverse+lucifer's multiverse+her own creation right? you also do know that there is no world/universe beside her own because all three have been merged right?
and like i said before, presence himself gave his place to elaine.