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#1 Edited by UNKNOWNSOLDlER (2 posts) - - Show Bio

The fight takes place on the Moon. No BFR.

Morals are on, so no speedblitzing. Let's be honest, Supes isn't gonna speedblitz a guy he knows nothing about to death. Hopefully speedblitz isn't even that possible of an option here.

No prep time for either team.

MARVEL TEAM

  • Quasar
  • Thor
  • Genis-Vell
  • Silver Surfer
  • Adam Warlock

DC TEAM

  • Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
  • Superman
  • Captain Atom
  • Martian Manhunter
  • Captain Marvel

This is my first post on the vine!! Don't hate! Constructive criticism and backed-up opinions are always welcome.

#2 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (16721 posts) - - Show Bio

@UNKNOWNSOLDlER:

Inclining towards cosmics.

Welcome to the vine anyway :)

#3 Posted by Killemall (18536 posts) - - Show Bio

We would need certainly information on which version of characters are being used, specially when we have DC characters (is it new 52 or otherwise) and characters like Genis Vell and Adam Warlock, is this Genis with cosmic awareness from Mad God saga? Does Warlock have soul gem.

These small things can affect the debate highly.

#4 Posted by KingofComix (211 posts) - - Show Bio

Depending on versions a couple characters in this battle can solo

#5 Posted by beatboks1 (7155 posts) - - Show Bio

@UNKNOWNSOLDlER: @PrinceAragorn1: @KingofComix:

Somebody please get an avi, it's confusing with this many like images

#6 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (16721 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1 said:

@UNKNOWNSOLDlER: @PrinceAragorn1: @KingofComix:

Somebody please get an avi, it's confusing with this many like images

Hmm. It's meant to confuse. *evil laugh with coinciding sound of thunder*

#7 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1553 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Posted by Bo88gdan (4397 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel team wins

#9 Edited by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5019 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel cosmics ftw

#10 Posted by GhostRider2 (3279 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel wins.

#11 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

DC.

#12 Posted by terry2012 (5074 posts) - - Show Bio

Until you lets know which version of characters you are using I wont make my decision until then.

#13 Posted by InnerAssassin (308 posts) - - Show Bio

DC wins

#14 Posted by KingofComix (211 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1 said:

@UNKNOWNSOLDlER: @PrinceAragorn1: @KingofComix:

Somebody please get an avi, it's confusing with this many like images

Actually I've tried multiple time to get an avi it just wont work lol

#15 Posted by UNKNOWNSOLDlER (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Well tbh, I'm not much of a DC expert... What version of Supes (and the other DC characters for that matter) would make this battle more fair? I know SA Supes or SP would be no fair!

No SG for Adam Warlock btw. Also, Genis-Vell is not insane. Quasar has quantum bands.

Sorry for the indecisive thread :P Thanks for all the help guys!

#16 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio

cool battle, but Im leaning toward marvel due to the SS and Genis tag team

#17 Edited by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio

@goddamnironman said:

which version of Superman? If it's SA supes, thn I would lean toward DC

And kindly reply to my threads http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/beat-my-character/741088/#14

are you kidding right ?

SA Supes can beat the sh*t out of both of these teams less than a Planck Time

anyway,

  • Quasar vs Green Lantern = Lantern
  • Thor vs Superman = Supes
  • Genis-Vell vs Captain Atom = Atom
  • Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter = Stalemate
  • Adam Warlock vs Captain Marvel = Billy

#18 Edited by TheDarkPlague (74 posts) - - Show Bio

Quasar vs Green Lantern = Lantern

Thor vs Superman = Superman

Genis-Vell vs Captain Atom = Atom

Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter = Surfer

Adam Warlock vs Captain Marvel = Captain

#19 Posted by DeathandGrim (2043 posts) - - Show Bio

DC

#20 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Edited by WaveMotionCannon (5381 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel Cosmics ftw

#22 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt: gl and captain marvel are weak links beacause thor can drain both

#24 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin: I strongly believe quasar could beat green lantern rather easily considering quasars constructs tanked blasts from galactus, but that isnt important because thor can drain gls ring and cap marvel. Also regarding thor vs supes, I disagree Thor has enough versatility to take out superman.

#25 Posted by dondave (36503 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on the version of Genis-Vell and Adam Warlock

#26 Posted by Iragexcudder (4578 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer and Quasar could absorb the whole team, besides Billy and J'onn, but the rest of the marvel team would be able to take them out.

Cosmics win.

#27 Edited by RetconCrisis (3733 posts) - - Show Bio

Cosmics are too powerful. A lot of them have TP resistence, countering Martian Manhunter.

#28 Edited by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin: I strongly believe quasar could beat green lantern rather easily considering quasars constructs tanked blasts from galactus, but that isnt important because thor can drain gls ring and cap marvel. Also regarding thor vs supes, I disagree Thor has enough versatility to take out superman.

really ? Thor can't kill the Superman,he's not even close to DoS Doomsday

and which Superman are we talking about ?

#29 Edited by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:

@dorukesin: I strongly believe quasar could beat green lantern rather easily considering quasars constructs tanked blasts from galactus, but that isnt important because thor can drain gls ring and cap marvel. Also regarding thor vs supes, I disagree Thor has enough versatility to take out superman.

really ? Thor can't kill the Superman,he's not even close to DoS Doomsday

and which Superman are we talking about ?

How could thor kill supes? one massive wallop to the face from Mjolnir. Supes got knocked out by Lobo. Which version of Superman? probably not SA Supes but you gotta ask OP

#30 Edited by Omnicrono (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I'd give the edge to Team Marvel Cosmic. 6 out of 10.

#31 Posted by Darkbiscuit (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin: Surfer stomps Manhunter

Surfer wins

Thor wins

Atom wins

Marvel wins

All down to who you think wins GL vs Quasar: as it would be become 3v2. Surfer is still on a higher level than most of them.

#32 Posted by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin: Surfer stomps Manhunter

Surfer wins

Thor wins

Atom wins

Marvel wins

All down to who you think wins GL vs Quasar: as it would be become 3v2. Surfer is still on a higher level than most of them.

wanna make a cav ?

take Thor and SS and i take Clark and Manhunter.

#33 Edited by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:
@dorukesin said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@dorukesin: I strongly believe quasar could beat green lantern rather easily considering quasars constructs tanked blasts from galactus, but that isnt important because thor can drain gls ring and cap marvel. Also regarding thor vs supes, I disagree Thor has enough versatility to take out superman.

really ? Thor can't kill the Superman,he's not even close to DoS Doomsday

and which Superman are we talking about ?

How could thor kill supes? one massive wallop to the face from Mjolnir. Supes got knocked out by Lobo. Which version of Superman? probably not SA Supes but you gotta ask OP

they can barely penetrate his invulnerability and like your said they can "k.o'd " him but actually they can't kill him.

also Superman's IMP murderstomps Thor.

also Superman can vibrate himself,he can pass through Doomsday

#34 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:
@dorukesin said:

@jbourne_32 said:

@dorukesin: I strongly believe quasar could beat green lantern rather easily considering quasars constructs tanked blasts from galactus, but that isnt important because thor can drain gls ring and cap marvel. Also regarding thor vs supes, I disagree Thor has enough versatility to take out superman.

really ? Thor can't kill the Superman,he's not even close to DoS Doomsday

and which Superman are we talking about ?

How could thor kill supes? one massive wallop to the face from Mjolnir. Supes got knocked out by Lobo. Which version of Superman? probably not SA Supes but you gotta ask OP

they can barely penetrate his invulnerability and like your said they can "k.o'd " him but actually they can't kill him.

also Superman's IMP murderstomps Thor.

also Superman can vibrate himself,he can pass through Doomsday

Who is they? Ad even if thor cannot hit him with mjolnir, he has a lot of options including the infinity vortex. And how exactly does superman beat thor?

#35 Posted by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio
#36 Posted by godzilla44 (3036 posts) - - Show Bio

@unknownsoldler: what are we using new 52 pre, silver age we need to know this stuff for us to have a good debate. By the way welcome to comicvine which has more trolls than youtube.

#37 Posted by Darkbiscuit (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@godzilla44: OP said he wasnt sure which versions would be fair, but for sure no SA or SP. Unspecified: New 52 (current)

@dorukesin: Way too early for me to do a CAV imo

#38 Posted by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio

@godzilla44: OP said he wasnt sure which versions would be fair, but for sure no SA or SP. Unspecified: New 52 (current)

@dorukesin: Way too early for me to do a CAV imo

nu52,pre52 no matter which Superman it is

#39 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@goddamnironman said:

which version of Superman? If it's SA supes, thn I would lean toward DC

And kindly reply to my threads http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/beat-my-character/741088/#14

are you kidding right ?

SA Supes can beat the sh*t out of both of these teams less than a Planck Time

anyway,

  • Quasar vs Green Lantern = Lantern
  • Thor vs Superman = Supes
  • Genis-Vell vs Captain Atom = Atom
  • Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter = Stalemate
  • Adam Warlock vs Captain Marvel = Billy

Quasar against pretty much any Lantern - stomp in favor of Quasar, because of drainning.

In character - Thor wins with Superman due to better striking feats and energy projection.

GV vs Atom - depends on versions.

Surfer wins with Martian because his power comes from Astral Plane.

Adam stomps every normal version of all people here, either by Soul Gem or by high level magic that allows him to fly into stars and survive supernovas without problem. Magus who had the same power level as Adam (just conscoiusness of Magus took contorl due to plot) was teleporting dozen of planets and make them explode.

Nova Prime was warned by Worldmind that Magus is on a whole different level. Even Cosmic Cube blast didn't kille him.

Quasar vs Green Lantern = Lantern

Thor vs Superman = Superman

Genis-Vell vs Captain Atom = Atom

Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter = Surfer

Adam Warlock vs Captain Marvel = Captain

Look above...

@dondave said:

It depends on the version of Genis-Vell and Adam Warlock

Either Warlock is too much for the team 2 (as much as most people from team 1)

#40 Posted by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin said:

@goddamnironman said:

which version of Superman? If it's SA supes, thn I would lean toward DC

And kindly reply to my threads http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/beat-my-character/741088/#14

are you kidding right ?

SA Supes can beat the sh*t out of both of these teams less than a Planck Time

anyway,

  • Quasar vs Green Lantern = Lantern
  • Thor vs Superman = Supes
  • Genis-Vell vs Captain Atom = Atom
  • Silver Surfer vs Martian Manhunter = Stalemate
  • Adam Warlock vs Captain Marvel = Billy

Quasar against pretty much any Lantern - stomp in favor of Quasar, because of drainning.

In character - Thor wins with Superman due to better striking feats and energy projection.

GV vs Atom - depends on versions.

Surfer wins with Martian because his power comes from Astral Plane.

Adam stomps every normal version of all people here, either by Soul Gem or by high level magic that allows him to fly into stars and survive supernovas without problem. Magus who had the same power level as Adam (just conscoiusness of Magus took contorl due to plot) was teleporting dozen of planets and make them explode.

Nova Prime was warned by Worldmind that Magus is on a whole different level. Even Cosmic Cube blast didn't kille him.

,

Thor wins ? i can beat your Thor with my Superman.i send you pm.

#41 Posted by Shot (1628 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Rider? where is Ghost Rider. . . .

#42 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio
#43 Posted by TheDarkPlague (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: I'll admit, I didn't know about some of the marvel characters so thank u 4 informing me, but I DO know that superman beats Thor. Supes power is completely unlimited to a yellow or blue sun, true, he has been knocked by Lobo but that's because everyone loves lobo and that's what everyone wants to see. It has been said Superman once survived 10,000 supernovas to the face, TO THE FACE! Proberbly exaggerated, but I'm pretty sure he can survive multiple supernovas. If no Odin force, Comic book super could take out comic book Thor, superman also knows various pressure points and martial arts and has a genius level intellect.

#44 Edited by darkseid1006 (2498 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:

does that stand for "its my pleasure"?

heres Flash using one on Zum a White Martian and ko'ing him

hahahahaha

no...IMP=Infinite Mass Punch

#45 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that i know what that means...Thor can avoid the attack, or just intercept it with his hammer it with his hammer and I have more that enough evidence to prove it. In the Astonishing Thor, Thor threw his hammer around the earth and caught it in one panel, do some calculations and you will find that Thor just reacted to something faster than light. IIRC Thor also beat Nova when he was going at light speed.

#46 Posted by godzilla44 (3036 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that i know what that means...Thor can avoid the attack, or just intercept it with his hammer it with his hammer and I have more that enough evidence to prove it. In the Astonishing Thor, Thor threw his hammer around the earth and caught it in one panel, do some calculations and you will find that Thor just reacted to something faster than light. IIRC Thor also beat NovT

Thor can not react to a IMP he has never shown to react to FTL attacks if he has show me the scans

#47 Edited by dorukesin (5598 posts) - - Show Bio

@jbourne_32 said:

Now that i know what that means...Thor can avoid the attack, or just intercept it with his hammer it with his hammer and I have more that enough evidence to prove it. In the Astonishing Thor, Thor threw his hammer around the earth and caught it in one panel, do some calculations and you will find that Thor just reacted to something faster than light. IIRC Thor also beat Nova when he was going at light speed.

wtf ? so you said he can intercept the Infinite Mass Punch with his Mjölnir ?

first of all you are featless

second,superman is much more faster than speed of light

third nobody can intercept or avoid the IMP,it breaks ZüM's invulnerability who's as tough as Superman and MMH and as fast as Wally

also Superman's IMP is much more harder than Wally's

#48 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

SS could solo, Genis-Vell could solo, Adam could solo...

#49 Posted by Jbourne_32 (1306 posts) - - Show Bio

When the imp shows to be as strong as this

You let me know

I cant find the nova feat, but nova is also much morer times faster than light than superman

and I think I debunked your second claim.

#50 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:


Quasar against pretty much any Lantern - stomp in favor of Quasar, because of drainning.

In character - Thor wins with Superman due to better striking feats and energy projection.

GV vs Atom - depends on versions.

Surfer wins with Martian because his power comes from Astral Plane.

Adam stomps every normal version of all people here, either by Soul Gem or by high level magic that allows him to fly into stars and survive supernovas without problem. Magus who had the same power level as Adam (just conscoiusness of Magus took contorl due to plot) was teleporting dozen of planets and make them explode.

Nova Prime was warned by Worldmind that Magus is on a whole different level. Even Cosmic Cube blast didn't kille him.

,

Thor wins ? i can beat your Thor with my Superman.i send you pm.

"My Thor"? I had similar debates many times, I also don't know when I will be on CV, so You would only waste time wating for me - I am honest with You.

About Thor vs Superman - it always coming down to rules:

Pre-52:

Out of character: Superman wins due to nanosecond reaction speed.

In character: Thor wins, because Superman (as probably all speedsters) don't use it, if he uses his speed, he does it in fly-type attack, like Hyperion here did:

Superman doesn't have better energy projection durability than Surfer or whole planets (or planet-type beings, like Alter Ego), so Thor's attacks has potential to KO Superman. Both would hold back, both would use more and more power, but in the end Thor has better striking feats, energy projection, both types of durability and more powers, ergo he wins.

New 52:

Out of character: Superman has some reflex feats, Thor has confirmed microsecond reaction. Thor's lightning > Ocean Master's lightning, Superman goes down instantly.

In character: Thor starts with lightning almost every battle or he use it as a second power which will give him win, since current Superman went down to single lightning from OM.

Personally I am more intrested on Your answer about Quasar vs Green Lantern

@czarny_samael666: I'll admit, I didn't know about some of the marvel characters so thank u 4 informing me, but I DO know that superman beats Thor. Supes power is completely unlimited to a yellow or blue sun, true, he has been knocked by Lobo but that's because everyone loves lobo and that's what everyone wants to see. It has been said Superman once survived 10,000 supernovas to the face, TO THE FACE! Proberbly exaggerated, but I'm pretty sure he can survive multiple supernovas. If no Odin force, Comic book super could take out comic book Thor, superman also knows various pressure points and martial arts and has a genius level intellect.

About Thor vs Superman - look above.

It is not unlimited. All characters limits are their feats.

IF we would choose winner by greater energy source - Thor would stomp, a specially considering that Thor absorbed Nega Bomb and then recharged whole star with one blast:

I have seen that scan, IIRC Superman was never hit by that blast.

And Superman was already KOd by small part of supernova.