#1 Posted by Bookman (618 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Sufer vs Captain Mar-Vell vs Genis-Vell vs Nova vs Qusar. Who wins? {Note,Galactus is not in because he would win for sure.

Qusar is in it.
Post Edited:2007-07-18 13:08:23

#2 Posted by Boken (7756 posts) - - Show Bio

wha about Quasar

#3 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure. But I'm guessing Surfer.

#4 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

It's either Surfer or Nova depending on how much power one thinks Nova currently has. Some estimates put him somewhere between Surfer and Galactus for power level.

#5 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously, no Quasar??

#6 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"It's either Surfer or Nova depending on how much power one thinks Nova currently has. Some estimates put him somewhere between Surfer and Galactus for power level. "

Dude, Nova's that strong? Nova? "The Man Called Nova" Nova? Nah, I don't believe you. lol

#7 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Satyrquaze says:
"It's either Surfer or Nova depending on how much power one thinks Nova currently has. Some estimates put him somewhere between Surfer and Galactus for power level. "
Dude, Nova's that strong? Nova? "The Man Called Nova" Nova? Nah, I don't believe you. lol"

Well... Garthan Saal who had the exact same type and level of power flowing through him took on the Avengers East and West, The Fantastic Four, Firelord, and Quasar all at the same time and was winning when Reed talked him into looking for his quarry elsewhere.

http://www.comicvine.com/garthan-saal/25716/

Another way to look at it is: One fraction of the Nova-Force turns a human into a human-rocket, Richard Rider currently weilds the Nova Force in it's entirety... the power of the entire Nova-Corps (usually over a thousand strong) in one man.

#8 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Satyrquaze says:
"It's either Surfer or Nova depending on how much power one thinks Nova currently has. Some estimates put him somewhere between Surfer and Galactus for power level. "
Dude, Nova's that strong? Nova? "The Man Called Nova" Nova? Nah, I don't believe you. lol"
Well... Garthan Saal who had the exact same type and level of power flowing through him took on the Avengers East and West, The Fantastic Four, Firelord, and Quasar all at the same time and was winning when Reed *talked* him into looking for his quarry elsewhere. http://www.comicvine.com/garthan-saal/25716/ Another way to look at it is: One fraction of the Nova-Force turns a human into a human-rocket, Richard Rider currently weilds the Nova Force in it's entirety... the power of the entire Nova-Corps (usually over a thousand strong) in one man."

That's impressive. Is the Nova corps like Lantern corps?

#9 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Satyrquaze says:
"It's either Surfer or Nova depending on how much power one thinks Nova currently has. Some estimates put him somewhere between Surfer and Galactus for power level. "
Dude, Nova's that strong? Nova? "The Man Called Nova" Nova? Nah, I don't believe you. lol"
Well... Garthan Saal who had the exact same type and level of power flowing through him took on the Avengers East and West, The Fantastic Four, Firelord, and Quasar all at the same time and was winning when Reed *talked* him into looking for his quarry elsewhere. http://www.comicvine.com/garthan-saal/25716/ Another way to look at it is: One fraction of the Nova-Force turns a human into a human-rocket, Richard Rider currently weilds the Nova Force in it's entirety... the power of the entire Nova-Corps (usually over a thousand strong) in one man."

That's impressive. Is the Nova corps like Lantern corps?

#10 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

Vaugely, but a little less powerful.

#11 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"Vaugely, but a little less powerful."

Cool. I say We give all of the Nova Corp. the phoenix force.

#12 Posted by Li'l T-bo (145 posts) - - Show Bio

Characters have gone thru some changes. If we're talking the old school (Rider doesn't possess full Nova Corp powers and Surfer is Galactus' herald), I'm going w/ Surfer. Currently (Requiem for Surfer & Nova at full power), I'm going w/ Nova.

#13 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that SS would win due to his range of energy manipulation powers.

As for Nova having the same power level as Super Nova - Garthan Saal - I don't hink so.

Nova is aware that accessing the full power of the Nova Force (even though he is the recipticle of all the power) would damage his mind and drive him mad. The Worldmind helps to moderate the power accessed, advises Nova and also looks to be building in safeguards for Nova in to his uniform and maybe pschological ones.

Garthan never had the worldmind, so he never benefitted from this and accessed all the power, hence his massive power levels but he did go mad.

It was only his greater experience with manipulating a fraction of the Nova power 9compared to nova) that allowed his mind to survive.

#14 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, Richard is definitly holding back with and without the help of the Worldmind, but I think Rich must have access to that power, otherwise, where did it all go?

It was stressed in the Annihilation: Nova mini (and repeatedly since then) that he has the power of the entire Nova Corps, if anything he has better control over it and isn't using it as a blunt insturment as Saal used it.

Richard Rider has access to all the power that Garthan Saal had, it's simply better regulated and controlled.

And you'd better believe that the Worldmind would allow Richard to bring the full might of the Nova-Force to bear if it became nessisary.

#15 Posted by the creator (8560 posts) - - Show Bio

Satyrquaze says:

"Yes, Richard is definitly holding back with and without the help of the Worldmind, but I think Rich must have *access* to that power, otherwise, where did it all go? It was stressed in the Annihilation: Nova mini (and repeatedly since then) that he has the power of the *entire* Nova Corps, if anything he has better control over it and isn't using it as a blunt insturment as Saal used it. Richard Rider has access to all the power that Garthan Saal had, it's simply better regulated and controlled. And you'd better believe that the Worldmind would allow Richard to bring the full might of the Nova-Force to bear if it became nessisary."

Possibly, but accessing this would drive him off the deep end.

#16 Posted by Satyrquaze (4542 posts) - - Show Bio

The_Creator says:

"Possibly, but accessing this would drive him off the deep end. "

Possibly, but not necissarily. The new suit does provide padding in that area. I don't think that using the power would drive him insane, having the power and holding onto it would slowly erode his sanity. I don't recall a 'the more you use the power' clause when he was originally talking to the Worldmind.

Besides, is was the knowledge of Richard's existence that drove Garthan insane, not the power itself, the power didn't help matters, however.

Either way, driven insane or not, Nova wins.

#17 Posted by SeSAW (3677 posts) - - Show Bio

Either one of the first 3 listed id say surfer by a slight margin but you can't count out Genis and Cap

#18 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio

Toss up between SS and Genis-Vell