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#1 Posted by blackdemon (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

Here are the exact fights... Magneto VS Black Adam Thanos VS Sinestro Electro VS Dr. Light Mr. Hyde VS Solomon Grundy Abomination VS Doomsday Titania VS Fatality Red Hulk VS Bizarro # 1 Dormammu VS General Zod Baron Mordo VS Mr. Mxyptlk Loki VS Ares Baron Mordo VS Cyborg Superman Selene VS Circe Rhino VS Brick Dark Phoenix VS Giganta Moonstone VS Star Sapphire Deathbird VS Cheetah List the outcomes individually and in the order above, please!

#2 Posted by cattlebattle (13575 posts) - - Show Bio

 
 You are aware most these fights are severely one sided right??
 
 
 
Magneto VS Black Adam
 Thanos VS Sinestro 
 Electro VS Dr. Light 
Mr. Hyde VS Solomon Grundy
 Abomination VS Doomsday 
 Titania VS Fatality
 Red Hulk VS Bizarro # 1
 Dormammu VS General Zod
 Baron Mordo VS Mr. Mxyptlk
 Loki VS Ares
 Baron Mordo VS Cyborg Superman
 Selene VS Circe
 Rhino VS Brick Dark 
Phoenix VS Giganta
 Moonstone VS Star Sapphire
 Deathbird VS Cheetah

#3 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11275 posts) - - Show Bio

in terms of most powerful, the majority of these are not.

#4 Posted by blackdemon (1199 posts) - - Show Bio

@ Supreme Marvel Really? I'm surprised. You know what the likes of Thanos, Black Adam, Dormammu, Sinestro and Doomsday are capable of, just as an example. Oh, wait. I think I can tell why you say that. The likes of Wendigo, Apocalypse, Destroyer, Titanium Man, Anti-Montior, Galactus, Juggernaut and others along those lines probably should have been put in rather than Rhino, Titania, Fatality and the like. Sorry about that. Silly me.

#5 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackdemon:

Magneto VS Black Adam

Thanos VS Sinestro

Electro VS Dr. Light

Mr. Hyde VS Solomon Grundy

Abomination VS Doomsday

Titania VS Fatality

Red Hulk VS Bizarro # 1

Dormammu VS General Zod

Baron Mordo VS Mr. Mxyptlk

Loki VS Ares

Baron Mordo VS Cyborg Superman

Selene VS Circe

Rhino VS Brick Dark

Phoenix VS Giganta

Moonstone VS Star Sapphire

Deathbird VS Cheetah

some of these are so uneven they made me laugh. but atleast you made someone laugh

#6 Posted by termiteone4ever (8300 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think the marvel team stands a very good chance here.

#7 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@blackdemon:

Magneto VS Black Adam

Thanos VS Sinestro

Electro VS Dr. Light

Mr. Hyde VS Solomon Grundy

Abomination VS Doomsday

Titania VS Fatality

Red Hulk VS Bizarro # 1

Dormammu VS General Zod

Baron Mordo VS Mr. Mxyptlk

Loki VS Ares

Baron Mordo VS Cyborg Superman

Selene VS Circe

Rhino VS Brick Dark

Phoenix VS Giganta

Moonstone VS Star Sapphire

Deathbird VS Cheetah

some of these are so uneven they made me laugh. but atleast you made someone laugh

Magneto>Black Adam?

#8 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: If magneto survives the initial speed blitz, and even in 52 Black Adam wasn't speed blitzing, i think his shields are strong enough to last until he can defeat BA.

#9 Edited by chriconz123 (582 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@jeanroygrant: If magneto survives the initial speed blitz, and even in 52 Black Adam wasn't speed blitzing, i think his shields are strong enough to last until he can defeat BA.

And how is he going to beat Black Adam? Teth has too much power at his disposal and a lot more ways to beat Mags.

#10 Posted by HellionVulcan (4001 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos & Phoenix own the show for marvel the rest get picked apart .

#11 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@chriconz123: I have seen Mags shields easily take attacks from many xmen, from the avengers including Thor's hammer. Has taken nuke bombs etc. BA is a man with iron in his blood. I believe Mags can reverse the flow of his blood or cause his blood flow to stop.

#12 Posted by TDK_1997 (15254 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: I don't think that Magneto has a big chance against Black Adam.He would speed blitz him and even if he doesn't he can still tkae him down fast.

#13 Posted by Harddrivexxii (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

@pooty: I don't think that Magneto has a big chance against Black Adam.He would speed blitz him and even if he doesn't he can still tkae him down fast.

Agreed - Black Adam is also magic based so I doubt manipulating his blood would even be possible.

#14 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997: you could be correct. i don't keep up with either. but in my limited knowledge i have not seen mags shields busted by brute force? have you? also i have rarely if ever seen BA speed blitz. He seems arrogant and wants to fight from what i know. So i'm thinking mags has enough time to get his shields up. After that i don't see why mags couldn't tamper with the iron in his body causing great pain if not a K.O.

#15 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Harddrivexxii: black adam, wonder woman, captain marvel all bleed. get fatigued and feel pain. so if their magic can't prevent them from bleeding and feeling pain, why would it stop magneto?

#16 Posted by Harddrivexxii (514 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@Harddrivexxii: black adam, wonder woman, captain marvel all bleed. get fatigued and feel pain. so if their magic can't prevent them from bleeding and feeling pain, why would it stop magneto?

Fair point - i'm just speculating. But how often does Magneto use the blood manipulation? Seriously I do want to know - is it as often as BA uses speed blitz?

#17 Posted by TDK_1997 (15254 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: Magneto's shield haven't been broken now by brute force but I think that BA can take him down with brute force.

#18 Posted by HigorM (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: Magneto´s has no answer for Black Adam's speed (speedblitz) and Magneto's best forcefield won't hold Black Adam's physical attacks..

#19 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Harddrivexxii: honestly, I have only seen magneto use it twice.

@TDK_1997: sure BA has more brute force but is it enough to get through his shields. Magneto shields are near automatic. How many times have you seen him caught off guard? And i personally have never seen BA speed blitz

@HigorM: Magneto has stopped nightcrawlers teleport. Has gotten his shields up before lightning could hit him. and stopped Photon(who was in light form) from attacking. If you have evidence of BA attacking that fast i would l like to see it. but if thor and she hulk cant get pass i don't see why BA could

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/f/371/magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg/

In these 2 scans Magneto stops Thor and She-Hulk together. and stops the power of the Phoenix after being caught off guard. I don't think BA can compare to what Mags has proven to handle.

#20 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Harddrivexxii: here he is using the blood trick:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpg

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8623/magripsapartapocalypse4li.jpg

#21 Edited by HigorM (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@HigorM: Magneto has stopped nightcrawlers teleport. Has gotten his shields up before lightning could hit him. and stopped Photon(who was in light form) from attacking. If you have evidence of BA attacking that fast i would l like to see it. but if thor and she hulk cant get pass i don't see why BA could

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/f/371/magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg/

In these 2 scans Magneto stops Thor and She-Hulk together. and stops the power of the Phoenix after being caught off guard. I don't think BA can compare to what Mags has proven to handle.

BA couldn´t be held by a Green Lantern constructs, he defeat the entire JSA and JLA by himself, do you really think Magneto´s shields could withstand his physical attacks?

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2408/bavsjsa19ag.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6159/bavsjsa26do.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3831/bavsjsa32kv.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5332/baquits15yl.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8749/baquits22bm.jpg

he even take ond the crazed Spectre

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7416/baspectre2fp.jpg

http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b9d9d_spectree2.jpg

He is on Superman´s level in terms of Speed, Mag´s doesn´t stand a chance, BA is in another level.

#22 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@HigorM: yes i do think his shields can hold up. magnetos shields, sue richards shields and green lantern shields are all composed by different energies. EVERYONE has broken through a GL shields. If you have more willpower or determination then you can break through a green lanterns shields. magnetos shields are binded together on the molecular level. that's why you have rarely if ever seen his shields broken by brute force. I'm going to bet you have NEVER seen magneto shields broken by brute force. BA only did so well because he was blood lusted while everyone else had morals on. They were trying to contain him only(its in the scans you provided). Spiderman, Deathstroke, Black Adam, Wonder Woman have all defeated teams who could kill them if the teams really tried. Thor, Hulk and Wonder man are all team busters but have failed to get through his shields. Nuke bombs cant do it. The Phoenix couldn't do it and neither can BA. His shields are nearly immune to blunt force because they are not physical in nature.

taking a nuke: http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/3455/magtakesamegatonbomb9cn.jpg

#23 Posted by HigorM (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: BA burst through Spectre's head, why couldn´t he burst through Mag´s shields? And BA is fast enough to take Mag´s before he even start the shield.. and Mag´s most shields isn´t that strong, that level your trying to sell is at full power.. he would be curbstomped in a random encounter since OP doesn´t say otherwise..

#24 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@HigorM: Spectre's head being compared to magnetic shields? I don't see a relationship at all. Just because you can break through a mountain does not mean you can bust through an energy shield. I don't know what BA top combat speed is(do you?) but as said that is not a part of his usual arsenal. Even in the scans you showed people were able to hit him and hold him so he couldn't be moving but so fast. I'm using mags everyday shields. When have you seen a "weak" magneto shield? Your trying to prove that blunt force can work against magnetic/energy fields. Magnetism is one of the fundamental forces of the universe. Magnetic polarity is what holds atoms and mass together. You can't break magnetic bonds with brute force. Thor with Mjolnir, Phoenix, and Hulk have tried. Unless BA has discovered a way to break the cohesion of magnetic bonding, he is not getting through.

#25 Edited by HigorM (4527 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: you say you would like to see BA speed level attacks, just take a look at this:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/Soujaboy/Black%20Adam%20Feats/06-11.jpg

Mag´s shield could hold for some time, but how long?

and how Mag´s is going to do to harm him?

here BA outruns multiple nuclear explosions:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Black%20Adam/blackadamnukes.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Black%20Adam/blackadamnukes1.jpg

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Black%20Adam/blackadamnukes2.jpg

And he (mag´s) has taken singular shots from them (Thor, Hulk and others), I don't know if he could take a couple thousand, or whatever number a guy as Black Adam can land..

If Mag´s needs time (even a little) to start with his shields up BA will simply speedblitz him and it´s done.. if not he will punch the shield since his stamina/durability > Magneto. He will get through the shield sooner or later..

#26 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@HigorM: Your scan makes my point. it says "they move like the lightning bolts on their chest". that is fast enough to make normal humans look like statues but Magneto has been dodging lightning for about 45 yrs. and the flash initiated the speed blitz. once again speedblitz is not something BA initiates on his own.

Mag´s shield could hold for some time, but how long?

Long enough for Mags to reverse the flow of blood in his body causing heart attacks and causing his arteries and veins to burst.

here BA outruns multiple nuclear explosion:

The man has dodged lightning from storm and Thor. He has erected force fields before Cyclops could hit him. He got up his shields before Photon( a lightspeeder) could get to him. BA has shown nothing that he is too fast for magneto.

And more importantly lets pretend that BA could speed blitz. when has he ever used that as a first attack? just because he could do it does not mean he will. Its not in his character. but mags will immediately put up his shields.

#27 Posted by beatboks1 (7629 posts) - - Show Bio

@HigorM said:

@pooty said:

@HigorM: Magneto has stopped nightcrawlers teleport. Has gotten his shields up before lightning could hit him. and stopped Photon(who was in light form) from attacking. If you have evidence of BA attacking that fast i would l like to see it. but if thor and she hulk cant get pass i don't see why BA could

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/198/magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/f/371/magtakesphoenixblast7nn.jpg/

In these 2 scans Magneto stops Thor and She-Hulk together. and stops the power of the Phoenix after being caught off guard. I don't think BA can compare to what Mags has proven to handle.

BA couldn´t be held by a Green Lantern constructs, he defeat the entire JSA and JLA by himself, do you really think Magneto´s shields could withstand his physical attacks?

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2408/bavsjsa19ag.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6159/bavsjsa26do.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3831/bavsjsa32kv.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/5332/baquits15yl.jpg

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8749/baquits22bm.jpg

he even take ond the crazed Spectre

http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/7416/baspectre2fp.jpg

http://img135.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc24&image=b9d9d_spectree2.jpg

He is on Superman´s level in terms of Speed, Mag´s doesn´t stand a chance, BA is in another level.

1. Guy's if your going to paste web site addresses please link them. Lasy people like me wont go to them other wise. Simply highlight the web address and click the link feature.

2.BA is NOT on Superman's level in speed. He isn't even on captain Marvel's level. Contrary to popular belief BA and Cap are not equal in power. BA gets his powers from different gods because of a deal Lady Blaze (Shazam's daughter) did with evil Egyptian gods to pervert her fathers champion to evil. BA is stronger than Cap, has greater durability but is slower, and has less stamina.

3. BA rarely speed blitzes, many of those pooty has mentioned do so more and are faster. BA can't even react to teh slowest Flash when his link to the speed force was broken.

3. I wish people would stop using WWIII as feats. It's so much PIS. Everything done in WWIII defies the history of what BA is capable of in comics.

#28 Posted by BigCimmerian (9124 posts) - - Show Bio

DC would win most of those battles, but put all those DC villains against Thanos and Dormammu and they would lose

#29 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1: I try to do that link feature and it keeps saying : invalid link. maybe that's why HigorM isn't using it either. i don't know its not working for me

#30 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:

@chriconz123: I have seen Mags shields easily take attacks from many xmen, from the avengers including Thor's hammer. Has taken nuke bombs etc. BA is a man with iron in his blood. I believe Mags can reverse the flow of his blood or cause his blood flow to stop.

Black Adam hits harder than all of them, not too mention he is considerably faster.  Let us not also forget that Black Adam doesn't care if his punch obliterates Erik's face, whereas I've never seen any Avenger legitimately attempt to kill him.
#31 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackdemon said:

Magneto VS Black Adam
Thanos VS Sinestro
Electro VS Dr. Light
Mr. Hyde VS Solomon Grundy
Abomination VS Doomsday
Titania VS Fatality
Red Hulk VS Bizarro # 1
Dormammu VS General Zod
Baron Mordo VS Mr. Mxyptlk
Loki VS Ares
Baron Mordo VS Cyborg Superman
Selene VS Circe
Rhino VS Brick - Don't know who Brick is.
Dark Phoenix VS Giganta
Moonstone VS Star Sapphire
Deathbird VS Cheetah
List the outcomes individually and in the order above, please!

Most of these were spite.

#32 Posted by izbighulk (666 posts) - - Show Bio

Dormammu solos

#33 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@pooty said:

@chriconz123: I have seen Mags shields easily take attacks from many xmen, from the avengers including Thor's hammer. Has taken nuke bombs etc. BA is a man with iron in his blood. I believe Mags can reverse the flow of his blood or cause his blood flow to stop.

Black Adam hits harder than all of them, not too mention he is considerably faster. Let us not also forget that Black Adam doesn't care if his punch obliterates Erik's face, whereas I've never seen any Avenger legitimately attempt to kill him.

when has BA hit harder than Mjolnir. Also when has someone really attempted to kill BA. He only survives because no one is going all out. I have not seen BA do anything Hulk or Thor couldn't in the strength department. And he is fast but he rarely uses speeds that magneto hasn't dealt with before.

#34 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:

@Illuminatus said:

@pooty said:

@chriconz123: I have seen Mags shields easily take attacks from many xmen, from the avengers including Thor's hammer. Has taken nuke bombs etc. BA is a man with iron in his blood. I believe Mags can reverse the flow of his blood or cause his blood flow to stop.

Black Adam hits harder than all of them, not too mention he is considerably faster. Let us not also forget that Black Adam doesn't care if his punch obliterates Erik's face, whereas I've never seen any Avenger legitimately attempt to kill him.

when has BA hit harder than Mjolnir. Also when has someone really attempted to kill BA. He only survives because no one is going all out. I have not seen BA do anything Hulk or Thor couldn't in the strength department. And he is fast but he rarely uses speeds that magneto hasn't dealt with before.

Let me know when Thor or Hulk can bust a moon with a single punch.
#35 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: Let me know when BA can do it.

#36 Posted by Nerx (15086 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty: use the secret wars galactus blast feat to defend your argument dude, and magic has never affected magneto's power (thor's hammer btw)

#37 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nerx: thanks. but that's not needed yet. i'm not going straight for the throat. i like to give nay-sayers false hope then destroy it. lol

#38 Edited by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nerx said:

@pooty: use the secret wars galactus blast feat to defend your argument dude, and magic has never affected magneto's power (thor's hammer btw)

That was a warning shot. Galactus could kill Magneto without even trying. Hell, any herald of Galactus could feasibly mop the floor with Magneto.
 
And Thor's hammer is nothing. Thor rarely throws his hammer as fast as possible, whereas Teth never attempts to limit himself when fighting his enemies. 
  
@pooty said:

@Illuminatus: Let me know when BA can do it.


He already has. 
#39 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: So has Thor. No wait. Thor destroyed a planet not merely a moon. he did it years ago during the "blood and Thunder" saga. and a warning shot from galactus is more than anything BA could dish out. and again what is brute force going to do against magnetic bonding on a molecular level?

#40 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@pooty said:

@Illuminatus: So has Thor. No wait. Thor destroyed a planet not merely a moon. he did it years ago during the "blood and Thunder" saga. 

Scans, please. 
 

 and a warning shot from galactus is more than anything BA could dish out.

Wrong. A warning shot is nothing. Galactus simply fired at Magneto in an attempt to tell him to stop acting like a brat. You have no proof that Galactus's warning shot was even intended to do any legitimate damage. 
 
Also, I believe Magneto already had his shields up. 
  
 

 and again what is brute force going to do against magnetic bonding on a molecular level?

What are you talking about? Teth would put a hole through Magneto before he had time to do whatever insane things he's only done once or twice that don't make any sense. Teth is a near light-speeder, whereas Magneto is barely superhuman in reflexes. 
#41 Posted by Dex_Starr (4754 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@chriconz123: I have seen Mags shields easily take attacks from many xmen, from the avengers including Thor's hammer. Has taken nuke bombs etc. BA is a man with iron in his blood. I believe Mags can reverse the flow of his blood or cause his blood flow to stop.

Magneto's shields have been torn apart by Cyclops and Storm, and as far as Iron in his blood, Magneto couldn't even rip apart Paulie Provenzano, he has no way of harming Adam and Adam would shatter his shields with a single hit. There is nothing Magneto can do.

#42 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

@HellionVulcan said:

Thanos & Phoenix own the show for marvel the rest get picked apart .

You forget about Mxy?

#43 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dex_Starr: Would Magneto even be able to affect a magical bloodstream? Lol.
#44 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus: proof? i have already posted scans of my proof. He blocked Thor using mjolnir and she hulk at the same time. Stopped a blast from Phoenix. Got shields up to stop lightning from Storm. Stopped Photon who was in light form. And what does reflexes have to do with this? magneto doesn't have to wave his hand to make his shields come up. he doesn't have to move at all. its almost a sub conscience thought. So when YOU show BA being faster than Photon or lightning then this debate can begin. And i have 2 scans showing magneto doing the blood trick. Which is 2 more scans than you have showed of BA speed blitzing. Even if BA is fast enough to speed blitz(which you have shown nothing proving he can) you have to prove that is a tactic he normally uses. I KNOW its not. So i don't see why you assume he will do it here.

#45 Posted by Illuminatus (9489 posts) - - Show Bio
LOL. I'll come back and address that nonsense later.
#46 Edited by beatboks1 (7629 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus:

BA isn't near light speeder at all, many on this and other forums SERIOUSLY over estimate his speed. There is plenty of evidence to support that fact .

  1. he couldn't react to Jay Garrick in JSA when Jay had lost his link to the speed force and was no longer a light speeder.
  2. he was running out of gas at mach 500 and was well behind jay when jay stole his speed to time travel toward the end of that run when jay had re-eastablished his SF connection.
  3. when the Marvel family are all powered up and each of them are at 1/3 total shazam power levels because they share the power ( BA doesn't because his power has a different source) they are each faster than him ( they are light speeders)
  4. it took him 5000 years to return from Shazam banishing across the universe. Some believe this to be a really good feat (ha ha) because they think about the size of the current universe. They forget about the rate of expansion of the universe. A rate that is and has been accelerating since the big bang. As such 5000 years ago the edge of the universe was a fraction of the distance it is today (a VERY small fraction), so the calculations most use to estimate BA's speed are WAY OFF.

Superman has traveled the same in MUCH less, in fact he has traveled the distance (chasing Supergirl's spirit - stopped by Spectre) in mere hours and when he did it was NOW . he also rarely uses his speed effectively because of his over confidence, and arrogance. proven by the fact that he has been dodged by Black Canary, Sand, Stargirl, even Wildcat.

It's the most commonly held miss conception that he is completely equal in power to captain Marvel and many apply his feats to BA as well as in reverse. This isn't the case, Lady Blaze did a deal with the elder evil Egyptian gods to pervert her father's champion (Teth) by them being powered by them rather than the God's that empower Shazam and his other champions. Black Adams speed comes from Heru not Mercury like it is for Cap and the Marvel family. Like wise his durability comes from Shu not Archilles. As such he has nigh invulnerability and a very high healing factor, not the invulnerability that Cap has (his skin has been punctured, but he heals almost immediately). Other notable differences are that BA doesn't need to breath where Cap does (he used a breathing mask to travel space). The different power sources is also why BA isn't reduced in power when cap, Cap Jr or Mary power up the way that billy is.

Also the idea that anyone takes the feats of WWIII with anything but a grain of salt p$% me off big time. We are meant to believe that BA can take on every hero on Earth (JLA/JSA/Teen Titan/ peoples heroes and many more) even though he's been bested or matched by MANY who were present in that story line either solo or in smaller groups on multiple occasions and call it anything but PIS. The usual answer I see for this is that he was blood lusted, but BA before being healed from the psychy of Teth was a stone cold killer and was always so and yet lost more than he won. There are more instances of him getting trounced in a blood lusted state than in a more moral state

I'm not by any means saying that he would loose I just hate the constant crap that get's put up in threads for him. He can suffer damage, and has. Billy has beaten him when he had a broken (busted should i can't recall exactly which) arm only because he has the endurance of Atlas and was able to persevere and keep fighting longer than BA was. Erik would however be able to put up a fight. At the very least he could manipulate the iron in BA's blood to restrict or slow his physical movements. BA BTW doesn't have any magic or magic protection. Like the marvel family he gains his powers courtesy of magic but they are purely physical powers.

#47 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dex_Starr: alot of words from these BA supporters but no proof. for every scan you show of Cyclops or storm getting past his shields I can show 5 when they can't. paulie is not in this fight so i guess that's good for magneto. no one has EVER gotten through magneto shields in one punch. Thor couldn't do it(and he is a world breaker), Hulk couldn't do it. and phoenix couldn't do it. so unless you got some feats of BA that put him above Phoenix and Thor, then BA can't do it either.

@Illuminatus: wonder woman, Captain marvel, Black Adam are all powered by magic. and that magic has not prevented any of them from bleeding.

#48 Posted by Dex_Starr (4754 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

@Dex_Starr: Would Magneto even be able to affect a magical bloodstream? Lol.

Probably not

Magneto has no way of harming Adam, and has no way of defending against him, Adam would shatter his shields like an egg shell.

This is exactly what's going to happen to Magneto, except replace Superman with Adam

#49 Posted by Saren (25453 posts) - - Show Bio
Pro-tip: Adam is faster than Legion.

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#50 Posted by pooty (12000 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

LOL. I'll come back and address that nonsense later.

that's fine. my scans and proof aren't going anywhere.