#101 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah...that's good cause I have no time for baiters. Not worth it. Clearly you're a troll so yeah...

I've done my research, doesn't alter my view, thanks I suggest you read the OP better next time and learn to respect other's views next time. Later.

#102 Posted by IheartZombies92--defunct (2201 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, with prep, I reckon the Avengers take it.

Iron Man has armors that can block telepathy and built a weapon that could give the Phoenix Force a headache, as well as some other pretty nifty toys. Thor is naturally immune to TP, and has resisted Phoenix Five Emma. Sentry (despite him being dead, kinda) would also be a heavy hitter. I reckon they could take it, but not before MM drops some of them first.

#103 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc said:

@czarny_samael666:

In what world can Stark, Pym, Vision, Black Panther, Superior Spider-Man hope to defeat the Martian? Not to mention the others you listed MMH gives te fight of their lives. Posts like this make you look like a fanboy and not an informed debater.

Lol, OP gived Avengers prep man...

#104 Posted by Frozen (18160 posts) - - Show Bio
#105 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

#106 Posted by Frozen (18160 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

Right. Thanos, who frequently does not even utilize his external abilities and crashing the Phoenix Force is not PIS? LOL.

#107 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

Right. Thanos, who frequently does not even utilize his external abilities and crashing the Phoenix Force is not PIS? LOL.

It is not, because Earth scientists regulary does that. Even when Osborn was threatening Molecule Man and Sentry, he mentioned Richards and Stark. T'Challa isn't much behind them and he has access to magic.

#108 Posted by Frozen (18160 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

Right. Thanos, who frequently does not even utilize his external abilities and crashing the Phoenix Force is not PIS? LOL.

It is not, because Earth scientists regularly does that. Even when Osborn was threatening Molecule Man and Sentry, he mentioned Richards and Stark. T'Challa isn't much behind them and he has access to magic.

If Earth's scientists regularly do it then how is it impressive? They are going to struggle with his speed and strength, let alone the vast amount of abilities he has, some of which they probably have not even encountered in a preparation time situation.

#109 Posted by RocketStark (108 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony solos no diff

#110 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

#111 Posted by MagnusTheMagnificent (262 posts) - - Show Bio

The MMH/Spectre TP feat from JLA #35 is higly suspect, because he basically went in the back door that was Hal Jordan, you know, the HUMAN host of Spectre of the time.

#112 Posted by robertloucksjr (1887 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

Dr. Strange

Hulk

Sersi

Photon

Gilgamesh

Hyperion

#113 Posted by the890guy (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Theis thread is a joke, MartianManhunter cannot hope to take out the entire avengers by himself... he is a strong individual but the avengers beat him in every way possible

#114 Edited by Jacthripper (8104 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry am I the only one who remembers Martian getting stabbed with a flaming spear

They can just torch the entire place because Martian can't phase through flame and it weakens his tp

Hulk is already practically immune to it because of his mental condition

#115 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

lol tony ain't soloing MMH The comments in here are rather amusing. Hulk ain't immune to TP and MMH has gotten past fire when he's had to. And besides, J'onn still has invisibility and intangibility so he can just phases through them and crush their hearts.

@frozen I agree, but sadly as usual MMH is underrated. Of course if this topic is every avenger vs. him then lame thread.

#116 Posted by Frozen (18160 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

Your post largely seems to ignore that many of the characters are not immune to TP, how could they create a device powerful enough for every team on The Avengers when he is far more powerful than any telepath they have faced? Perhaps only a few could defend from TP.

lol tony ain't soloing MMH The comments in here are rather amusing. Hulk ain't immune to TP and MMH has gotten past fire when he's had to.

@frozen I agree, but sadly as usual MMH is underrated. Of course if this topic is every avenger vs. him then lame thread.

Lol, they are amusing. I think Saren's respect thread nailed Martian's capabilities.

#117 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

Your post largely seems to ignore that many of the characters are not immune to TP, how could they create a device powerful enough for every team on The Avengers when he is far more powerful than any telepath they have faced? Perhaps only a few could defend from TP.

They have devices that makes them immune to TP. I told You that Stark already made such a device in AvX.

Moondragon is his level andwas a part of Avengers. Their machines overcome Emma's TP, which is comparable to Martian's.

#118 Edited by Frozen (18160 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

Your post largely seems to ignore that many of the characters are not immune to TP, how could they create a device powerful enough for every team on The Avengers when he is far more powerful than any telepath they have faced? Perhaps only a few could defend from TP.

They have devices that makes them immune to TP. I told You that Stark already made such a device in AvX.

Moondragon is his level andwas a part of Avengers. Their machines overcome Emma's TP, which is comparable to Martian's.

For each of The Avengers? A device that The Martian has the speed and powers to destroy. Emma's TP is NOT comparable to Martian's.

#119 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

It turns off TP on certain area, like Utopia.

Yes, it is.

#120 Edited by Frozen (18160 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

It turns off TP on certain area, like Utopia.

Yes, it is.

John is the better telepath. He has used telepathy on Dr. Fate with the Helmet of Nabu and has resisted Mageddon's TP. John is above planetary level TP anyways.

#121 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

It turns off TP on certain area, like Utopia.

Yes, it is.

John is the better telepath. He has used telepathy on Dr. Fate with the Helmet of Nabu and has resisted Mageddon's TP. John is above planetary level TP anyways.

1.I would like to read that issues.

2.What actually puts these two in planetary level TP-resistance (which would makes these feats so special)

3.Based on?

#122 Edited by 0_Apocalypse_0 (97 posts) - - Show Bio

MM mindfucks all, end of story.

#123 Posted by Jack_ (2218 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian Manhunter has a specific extremely exploitable weakness to fire. Doesn't it make sense that this exploitable weakness would be taken advantage of in some way by the Avengers? I'm sure that with prep they would take time to analyze Manhunter and come up with a way to use this weakness against him. Also, Iron man most likely still has those microscopic telepathic tasers from AvX. Wouldn't he at least try to use those against Manhunter?

#124 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

J'onn has adapted and not been effected by fire when he's had to

#125 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (1221 posts) - - Show Bio

J'onn

#126 Posted by militaryMan (357 posts) - - Show Bio

MMH

#127 Posted by Fallingcliffs (2567 posts) - - Show Bio

Mmh

#128 Edited by TheClassicIon (691 posts) - - Show Bio

The New 52 Martian Manhunter is a team buster, he can win this, he mind rapes everyone at once, and he has intangibility, he's got this

#129 Posted by Milliardo (586 posts) - - Show Bio

Ironman wears his Bleeding Plot Armor

#130 Posted by micah (4574 posts) - - Show Bio

Team. One word fire....

#131 Edited by mikemaximum (796 posts) - - Show Bio

She wins over MM.

#132 Posted by adamTRMM (2562 posts) - - Show Bio

lol Manhunter gets obliterated.

#133 Posted by utkanflash (505 posts) - - Show Bio

Bloodlust MM= Fernus
Not Bloodlust but furious MM > Despero

Fernus and Despero > any 7 member of Avengers (in modern age of course)

But Avengers has a change with Thor,Doctor Strange and Sentry

#134 Posted by TomoFukuoka (397 posts) - - Show Bio

Sersi

Dr Strange

Sunfire

Scarlet Witch

the Sentry at Void level

Quasar

Captain Britain

Wiccan

Jack of Hearts

Firestar

Hazmat

Doombot

Victor Mancha

Vision

The Avengers has many heavyweights and each of these characters named could be difficult for Manhunter, the bots are immune to telepathy, some of these Avengers have "fire" based powers or can project fire which severly hurts Martians. J'onn J'onzz is good but he's not taking on a whole team with powerhouses like Strange, Sentry, Captian Universe who can be plot devices when working at their full power

I also believe Manhunter is not as fast as some of his fans claim if you look at his comics his speed is way behind other characters, Superman, the Flash, the Silver Surfer, Wonder Woman all have much better speed feats than Manhunter.

Vison alone can stalemate Manhunter

#135 Posted by Noone301994 (9520 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep the Avengers take it. Iron Man can counter MMH's telepathy and intangibility with prep and come up with some plot device to weaken him enough for the team to win.

#136 Edited by SodamYat (2813 posts) - - Show Bio

characters with prep almost equal automatic victories

#137 Edited by TomoFukuoka (397 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep the Avengers take it. Iron Man can counter MMH's telepathy and intangibility with prep and come up with some plot device to weaken him enough for the team to win.

and remember the DC characters before New-52 watered them down were much stronger

bronze age DC was tough

silver age was crazy powerful

but all this time Manhunter was always weak against fire

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/25835/506940-scan22.jpg

#138 Posted by uugieboogie (4851 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep the Avengers take it. Iron Man can counter MMH's telepathy and intangibility with prep and come up with some plot device to weaken him enough for the team to win.

^^This & the fact Iron Man made the Phoenix Killer in how long again? & in that same Story Arc Thor KO'd the PF only if it was only for a few seconds. Can we get a Martian Killer or a Martian Buster? lmao

#139 Edited by LightenUpWillYa (160 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron man with prep is bullshit in comics he gets to build anti everything somehow.

He will invent lots of PIS or WIS and win with 6 others.