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J'onn is teleported to marvel aboard an metal pod from the watchtower by a bored Mr Mxy for fun (Mxy was attacking the watchtower) and lands in remote Siberia where the team is randomly gathered (don't ask why) and a fight begins

TEAM:

The Avengers (Cap, Thor, World Breaker Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Spiderman, Ironman, Wolverine)

The X-Men (Xavier, Jean Gray with phoenix, Cyclops, Iceman, Wolverine YES THERE'S TWO, Beast, Storm and Rouge)

Magneto

The Fantastic Four

Green Goblin

Carnage

Quicksilver

Sentry (one resurrection)

RULES:

No BFR

All characters are morals on. J'onn is defending himself the team want to take him in. HOWEVER if J'onns mind is invaded it unlocks the sleeping Fernus the Burning who is morals off and the teams morals are off.

Mxy tipped of the team 3 days in advance except FF so all but FF have 3 days prep with all knowledge except Fernus just regular J'onn

No outside help

Standard equipment

Pre and new 52 J'onn feats

Characters start at J'onns landing position in Siberia surrounding the Manhunter at a radius of 10m no battlefield limits.

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#2 frozen  Moderator

Manhunter takes this even without Fernus, they'll try and TP him and Fernus will make short work of them.

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@frozen:

Just jean grey Phoenix, don't read it just know she's supposed to be powerful. Also added WB hulk and prep for all but FF and MMH

Going to add in sentry one resurrection and add phoenix jean

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J'onn.

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The Martian.

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#11  Edited By Experio

@clownprinceofcrime1995: You shouldn't be asking that with Phoenix on the team, even without it they're much more powerful despite the street levelers

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Still J'onn.

He makes them commit suicide or just kill each other

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@experio:

Is she a more powerful telepath than Fernus though?

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@experio:

Just making sure you know. MMH entered the mind of the spectre. Fernus is a GREATLY amped MMH with additional pyrokinesis that can KO characters who have never been KO'd with heat (Scorch etc)

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@dondave:

He's MMH with increased strength, speed, durability, healing factor, more powerful TP, pyro kinesis, ability to phase others to a greater degree and morals off so he uses his full power set to ruthless levels. I'd call that amped. Technically MMH is a depowered Fernus so really all they did was remove fernus' powercap

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@dondave:

Saying fernus = Amped MMH is the same as MMH = depowered fernus.

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@dondave:

It's another wording for an amp. Just because it doesn't scream THIS IS AN AMP at you doesn't mean its not an amp. It increases all of MMH abilities. To MMH Fernus = Amp. To fernus MMH = Depower

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@dondave:

An amp is when a character gets a powerboost due to circumstance. Maybe something warps them or they use special equipment (Superman motherbox). Fernus got released from MMH when his weakness to fire was removed, increased all his stats and turned him loony. That is an amp. If it not an amp what is it?

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@clownprinceofcrime1995 You have no evidence to show that his stats were increased. At least post scans showing his supposed amp.

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@dondave said:

Still J'onn.

He makes them commit suicide or just kill each other

Even with Phoenix?

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@dondave:

Scans showing an amp? Fernus existing is proof!

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@dondave:

Fernus being an amp isn't proof that there is an amp? Dude that just makes no sense.

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@dondave:

With greatly increased stats and new/improved abilities

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@dondave:

I don't have scans but search for them if you must.

He physically beat down superman, Flash and WW (Increased speed and strength)

he phased and fused superman with a table (Advancement on his phasing)

Pyrokinesis powerful enough to KO a character who was thought to be immune to heat/fire (new Power)

General TP feats such as taking the entire JLA like nothing and controlling the worlds populous (Increased TP)

Unaffected by superman hitting him and regenerating from disintegration (Advanced durability and HF)

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So MMH can beat galctcus 1v1? this is a mismatch pheonix curbstomps by itself, havent seen the fanboyism this strong,iceman could atguably solo same with worldbreaker hulk

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@dondave:

Against the JLA he has beaten them but not in a comparable time frame. Literally a drawn out battle compared to just instant TP.

He hasn't shown nearly the same phasing ability and he hasn't got pyro as MMH

All his abilities get a large upgrade and he gets new powers

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I think the team would win.

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Team, Sentry and Jean Grey with the Phoinex could potentially solo.

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@clownprinceofcrime1995: No, the main difference is that Fernus was without morals, so he had no reservations of simply putting the League down as quickly and brutally as possible.

Martian Manhunter still has feats of tampering with the minds of gods, and god-like beings besides.

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Martian Manhunter would have trouble with Jean Grey w/ Phoenix...

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@xiix:

MARTIAN MANHUNTER DOES NOT HAVE PYROKINESIS!

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Only one I see here that may be able to resist TP is Mags. He can make the others all fight each other and focus only on those he hasn't affected, or make the ones affected fight the ones not. So MMH can win if he goes for that approach. If not it'll be (much) harder for him to win.

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3 days prep? Thor grabs Destroyer Armor, has the team teleport J'onn to the Moon out the gate where he gets godblasted.