@iragexcudder said:
@martianfrommars: Nova is WAYYYY more durable than Martian Manhunter. Nova went through a series supermassive black holes and recovered fairly easily from it. He also crashed THROUGH a Neutron Star and continued to fight. Do you know how dense a Neutron Star is?
A neutron star is a sphere about the size of Brooklyn weighing as much as Earth.
Or
A grain of sand weighing as much as a Boeing Jet.
Nova is ridiculously more durable than J'onn.
Also, he's a lot faster than J'onn too. He traveled from Earth to Hel in under three minutes, which is roughly 3 times the speed of light.
His combat speed is also a lot faster than J'onns. While fighting Drax, he constantly evaded all of his attacks at FTL speeds. He was also able to tag Gladiator and Silver Surfer, of whom have microsecond reaction times (even though they beat him, but both were holding back)
Strength, J'onn has him beat on that.
Nova is immune to Telepathy.
Nova can channel blackholes that can destroy solar systems and gravimetric energy that can literally put J'onn in some serious trouble.
Novas energy output is INCALCULABLE. Especially with 100% of the Nova Force AND Worldmind, there's no easy way of J'onn winning this.
Intangibility isn't a factor here. Nova would win 8/10, especially when Worldmind can access Martians weaknesses.
Nova didn't avoid his attacks at FTL speed, all he did was show that he has super-speed there was no indication that he used FTL Reactions to do so.
Thor has been able to fight evenly with Silver Surfer and Gladiator even though his reaction speed is pitiful. Fighting someone who has high reaction speed doesn't mean anything if they don't use said speed against you. I could fight Wally West if he decided not to use his speed against me, it doesn't mean I'm as fast as him. Also, he could barely see Silver Surfer, he originally thought he was an energy blast from Galactus.
How would Worldmind know Martian Manhunter's weakness, he not part of MU therefore, Worldmind wouldn't have any data on races native to the DCU.
Why won't intangibility be a factor?
Travel Speed doesn't actually mean much unless they want to chase each other or one decides to run away
Define how fast super speed is?
Reaction times are everything, thats what makes Wally West so powerful, because he can hit you and react faster than you can process thought. That about you fighting Wally West is absurd. I could fight Superman if he decided not to use his strength too, do you think thatll happen??
- How would Worldmind know Martian Manhunter's weakness, he not part of MU therefore, Worldmind wouldn't have any data on races native to the DCU.
Okay, first off, you have a lack of imagination for even saything this. Worldmind senses everything, every detail about someone. Every possible calculation, energy output, weakness, thought, power and speed of the character Nova is fighting. Worldmind is also a supercomputer, whose data is entirely comprised of the experiences, histories, and personalities of deceased members of the Nova Corps. Worldmind would have to see J'onn for a second to know what to do to him.
Nova has a FORCE OF THE UNIVERSE at his disposal. Opening Stargates and blackhole would definitely do some damage to J'onn.
Martian Manhunter wins He is more durable,physically strong,faster,can turn intangable,has no weakness,can shapeshift,is one of the most powerful telepaths in DCU,can regenarate,never tires,is extremely intelligent and if he is bloodlusted he can just put his intangable hand through Nova's skull and turn super-dense until that happen though Nova won't go down easy
Nowhere near more durable.
Stronger, yes.
Faster, no. I havent seen any Manhunter speed feats.
Nova is immune to telepathy.
Nova has one of the fastest regeneration of any character in marvel. After going through a series of black holes, he was completely healed in a matter of hours.
Worldmind has been around for thousands of thousands of years. He is also, very intelligent.
So him being bloodlusted, Nova would just allow him to walk on up to him and phase through his head? I didnt know that a bloodlust Nova Prime would allow that.
@floopay id like to hear your take on this also
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