Martian Manhunter vs. Magneto

magneto would act first so he would win

Magneto. Does MM have iron in his blood?

speed blitz...

if Mags can get his shield up it could be over... but Jonn will blitz the crap out of him before that happens

Mags wins more often than not. Chances of J'onn being competent are low and his general stats can't really save him from Mags' field control.

J'onn uses phasing a lot. Wouldn't that protect him from a vast majority of Magneto's attacks? Even if Manhunter is in-character, he isn't just going to stand there and be incompetent.

Not really. This is also ignoring the fact that Erik has countered phasing attempts multiple times, namely Shadowcat and whatnot using electrostatic blasts to solidify their forms or simply effecting their phased selves through degrees of magnetic control. Phasing isn't some magic trick that he has no defence to, in fact he's fairly used to it.

Ah okay, I didn't know that. I assumed he had countered the likes of Kitty in the past or something, but wasn't sure if Erik had countered intangibility in the past.

As for the "he's not going to stand around and be incompetent" that's hard to believe when there's a good few occasions where he's doing exactly that.

:C

@professorrespect:

• So Magneto does not have Occasions where he was shown to be incompetent?

Manhunter has far more if you want to be going down that road. Your weird "all competency against phasing is PIS" argument is just.....kinda weak? Like it's obviously just cherrypicking at that point, you just seem to rationalise it with wacky fonts.

We are trying to judge who would win between Magneto vs Martian Manhunter based on their ‛‛Capabilities” by using their Best-feat

You judge via consistency. Bit weird when you say this and then go "no no don't use counters against phasing tho those PIS" but I'm glad you can't even keep a consistent philosophy going for a full post.

👉It means that in this Fight, both Magneto and Martian Manhunter are Competent because they will fight to the best of their abilities

To their most consistent standards considering they are morals on, yeah. Bit silly to suggest they just do the highest end thing because of a weird phasing of "best of their abilities" which is still equating morals and ethics into the mix.

Martian Manhunter can use Telekinesis to lift up Magneto, restrain Magneto in Mid-Air, use Telekinesis to remove Magneto ‛‛Helmet”, then use Telepathy to put Magneto to Sleep😴 or just use a Strong Punch to Knock out Magneto which will allow Magneto to fall into unconsciousness😴

Game over.

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@professorrespect:

Manhunter has far more if you want to be going down that road.

Ah. Gosh🤦

👉Even if MMH has far more, it still doesn't matter because it doesn't change the fact Magneto also has some ‛‛Low-end-feats”

The difference is that one has more than the other. It's not rocket science.

Your weird "all competency against phasing is PIS" argument is just.....kinda weak? Like it's obviously just cherrypicking at that point, you just seem to rationalise it with wacky fonts.

• LMAO, you were the one who Started talking about MMH ‛‛Low-end-feats” and you completely ignored Magneto's ‛‛Low-end-feats”

Not really, I said nothing on the matter. I just said both had them. If you were to see who had more, it would ultimately be Manhunter. I never said Erik had no low ends, that's just silly.

I have nothing else to say to you

>goes on for another half page nonsensically ranting

sure

You judge via consistency.

👉Not just via consistency but also via ‛‛capabilities”

No, it's consistency, then their own capabilities.

If you know Magneto can counter Phasing, then post the ‛‛Scan”

Uncanny X-Men #150 and X-Men Vol. 2 #87 both have instances of phasing not working. The Breakworld feat also has a instance of him manipulating a phased individual.

To their most consistent standards considering they are morals on, yeah.

👉Morals-On or not, ‛‛Capabilities” is also important

Most people know what they can do. It's not really about that at this point.

Like i said, On Battle Forum, Characters fight to the best of their abilities, they fight at their FULL-POTENTIAL and we use their BEST-FEATS to judge between two different characters

This has never been the case. You curiously moan at me for "forgetting" about capabilities but then you just forget about morals, ethics, the consistency of tactics and powers, etc. You spend ages ranting about high-ends and low-ends when you just casually forget about half of this stuff.

Bit silly to suggest they just do the highest end thing because of a weird phasing of "best of their abilities" which is still equating morals and ethics into the mix.

• So we should use both ‛‛High-end-feats” and ‛‛Low-end-feats” to judge between 2 different Characters on BATTLE FORUM right

Did I say that? Maybe read a bit harder.

We would debate for centuries without answer

You could. Your formatting would probably take years through

Meh, you need to grow up.

Go and learn how to properly judge between two different characters

I think I know by now given how long I've been on the site. I would think you would actually know considering your length but that might be asking for too much of a good thing.

On topic probably Mags though I’m pretty sure Dr. Polaris has messed up J’onn before

Manhunter curbs

@professorrespect:

The difference is that one has more than the other. It's not rocket science.

Not really, I said nothing on the matter. I just said both had them. If you were to see who had more, it would ultimately be Manhunter. I never said Erik had no low ends, that's just silly.

• So if Superman had more ‛‛Low-end-feats” than Captain America, it means Captain America will defeat Superman on Battle Forum?

Great strawman. I never determined who wins or loses based on who has more low-ends: the most popular characters would therefore never win a match in that case. People stated that Manhunter won via phasing, I corrected that by saying Erik has a counter to that already. It ain't hard to follow.

👉Mr. Man, see, i don't have time to waste on someone who doesn't know how to properly judge between two different characters on Battle Forum.

If you want to continue to use ‛‛flawed Logic” to judge between Characters on Battle Forum, suit yourself.

Just make sure that when you downplay MMH, make sure you also downplay Magneto since that's your ‛‛Logic” for judging between two different characters on Battle Forum

I don't "downplay" anything but I'm glad you can't actually argue beyond vague platitudes of my talking points.

@firelordmagnus:

Yh Because MMH is just gonna Stand there and do nothing when he notices that he can't use his TP on Magneto.

MMH will just Stand there and let Magneto hold off against his TP.

Hardly, the guy can't even handle singular high tiers.

I like Magneto more, but he doesn't really have an advantage if MMH actually fights competently

Manhunter curbs

Not really. Especially considering that he's alredy been dealt with my an arguabley inferior Magnetism user: