Martian Manhunter vs King Hyperion

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#1  Edited By dondave

No Telepathy for MMH

On the moon

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#2  Edited By Bo88gdan

King Hyperion

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#3  Edited By The_Roman

New 52 or Pre-Flashpoint?

I'd say Hyperion wins.

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#4  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman:Pre-flaspoint. Why hyperion

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#5  Edited By Jayfournines

Martian Manhunter, too many powers for Hyperion to contend with

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#6  Edited By The_Roman

@dondave: Because Pre-Flashpoint Manhunter had that weakness to fire.

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#7  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman: there is no oxygen on the moon and therefore no fire as for fire to combust you need oxygen

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#8  Edited By The_Roman

@dondave: He shoots beams of heat as hot as the sun from his eyes, I believe.

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#9  Edited By Simon_the_digger

@Jayfournines said:

Martian Manhunter, too many powers for Hyperion to contend with

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#10  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman: heat does not equate fire

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#11  Edited By The_Roman

@dondave: Manhunter's weakness is to heat.

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#12  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman: no it is specifically to fire

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#13  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman: bump

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#14  Edited By The_Roman

@dondave:well that makes no sense...

Manhunter should take this pretty easy then.

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#15  Edited By The_Soverighn

Manhunter In A Tough Fight

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#16  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman: what doesnt make sense

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#17  Edited By The_Roman

@dondave: Having a weakness to fire and not heat.

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#18  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman: I think its due to the fact that he had to burn all the martians on his planet including his daughter and wife

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#19  Edited By The_Roman

@dondave: What did he use to burn them though? Cause if it was fire, it makes no sense, still.

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#20  Edited By dondave

@The_Roman: he did use fire but the trauma of using fire i believe put a psychological fear of fire into him

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#21  Edited By The_Roman

@dondave: Well I don't know anymore.

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#22  Edited By IZZR

@dondave said:

@The_Roman: I think its due to the fact that he had to burn all the martians on his planet including his daughter and wife

Sorry to butt in...this is very incorrect, all Martians have that weakness to fire specifically due to having it embedded in their brain by someone i cannot remember who specifically because he was afraid Martians were too powerful and might one day rule the universe, secondly Jonn did not destroy his race, it was his twin brother Malefic who was the only Martian that did not have the fire weakness as he did not possess telepathic powers as it was striped away from him for mind raping someone. I hope this helps...

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#23  Edited By StMichalofWilson

Martian Manhunter

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#24  Edited By The_Roman

@IZZR: It does.

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#25  Edited By dondave

@IZZR:I know what your talking about and it was the guardians who did it by the way, but the it varies writer to writer on hid fear of fire and alot i believe have gone with the burning of his race and thats why i put it there

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#26  Edited By Ratatat

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#27  Edited By IZZR
@dondave said:

@IZZR:I know what your talking about and it was the guardians who did it by the way, but the it varies writer to writer on hid fear of fire and alot i believe have gone with the burning of his race and thats why i put it there

Ahhh there you go the Guardians, so ye it is basically a fear that comes with having the telepathic abilities they all do but due to Jonn's brother Malefic being stripped of that power he managed to kill everyone on Mars but survive as fire cannot harm him, John happened to survive because he is the most powerful Martian alongside Malefic. The whole destruction of the Martians was planned by Darkseid and Malefic.
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#28  Edited By dondave

@IZZR: wasnt that story arc retconned or something

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#29  Edited By IZZR
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@IZZR: wasnt that story arc retconned or something

I haven't read any New52 with Jonn in it so im not sure where he currently stands but i think soon or later he will get his own title which im sure will have a back story which will be considerably different from the original unless they decide to bring Malefic into new52 also, who knows but he was an awsome villain because he is actually scary.
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#30  Edited By dondave

bump

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#31  Edited By GodDamnIronMan

MM take this.

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#32  Edited By ascenscion

Manhunter, he outclasses Hyperion through diversity. It wouldn't be a stomp but it wouldn't be too much trouble.

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6-4 manhunter

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No TP ?

My vote goes to King Hyperion.

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It's even better, considering @dondave made this thread.

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if theres not mind rapeing than hyperion dude to heat vision

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King Hyperion stomps sooner or later.

He totally outclasses Martian in strength and durability. Martian was already KOd by Black Adam, who needed only lightning and his strength and Doomsday who needed only his strength to put him down.

King Hpyerion - as MArtian - can become intangible, but in opposite to Martian, he does it through speed, which also give us the hint about his fight-speed. His Atomic-vision matched Hyperion-712's. Even when his enemies broke his neck, he regenerated in seconds. He could fight with two Hyperions at once, he took attack of metal-shaped Mimic at half of light speed and was only stunned. He took down Blue Marvel in first round of their encounter.

Martian isn't near Hyperion-712 to actually puts a fight in vision or strength area. IDK any of his M-Vision feats matching someone like H-712's. Similar in fight-speed. Only thing he can match him, are regenerative abilities, but he still is much more vulnerable to physical attacks than KH.

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hunter stomps

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@hellblazing: Frankly, MMH didn't impress me, especially when he was fighting against Doomsday. I expected much more.

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King Hyperion stomps sooner or later.

He totally outclasses Martian in strength and durability. Martian was already KOd by Black Adam, who needed only lightning and his strength and Doomsday who needed only his strength to put him down.

King Hpyerion - as MArtian - can become intangible, but in opposite to Martian, he does it through speed, which also give us the hint about his fight-speed. His Atomic-vision matched Hyperion-712's. Even when his enemies broke his neck, he regenerated in seconds. He could fight with two Hyperions at once, he took attack of metal-shaped Mimic at half of light speed and was only stunned. He took down Blue Marvel in first round of their encounter.

Martian isn't near Hyperion-712 to actually puts a fight in vision or strength area. IDK any of his M-Vision feats matching someone like H-712's. Similar in fight-speed. Only thing he can match him, are regenerative abilities, but he still is much more vulnerable to physical attacks than KH.

^This more or less. I think that it would be a pretty close battle but as you said he has a lot going for him physically in comparisn to mmh.

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#46  Edited By XiiX

@reaverlation said:

J'onn

Yep. He's still perfectly capable of handling multiple powerhouses without the use of telepathy.

It's cute people think once it's off the table, he's just a "shape-shifting Superman lite".

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J'onn stomps

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@xiix: It's only a few, which of who are obvious

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#49  Edited By Kingant27

@dondave this is your battle, and you say John stomps; lol.

King Hyperion wins in an amazing fight.

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Lol.