No prep, no bfr, no time limit, both are completley unarmed, takes place on an uninhabited Earth, both bloodlusted and no one character is declared victor until the other is killed.
Martian Manhunter vs Gladiator
@venomoushatred1001 said:
In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.
If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.
All powers are allowed.
@majestic99 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.
If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.
All powers are allowed.
Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.
@venomoushatred1001 said:
In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.
If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.
This
MM because of the psionics, I don't know about Gladiators psi resistance but I still don't think it's enough to overcome.
@TheWholeDamnShow said:
What is this strange obsession with MM? How many MM threads have you made today?
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@Illuminatus said:
@majestic99 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.
If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.
All powers are allowed.
Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.
How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.
@majestic99 said:
@Illuminatus said:
@majestic99 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.
If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.
All powers are allowed.
Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.
How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.
Does Wolverine have a well-kown weakness to telepathy? Nope. Does Cap? Nope.
Just because a character doesn't have a specified weakness to something, doesn't mean they aren't susceptible to it. Besides, J'onn's telepathy should go right through any TP Glads might have.
@Illuminatus: Just because it doesn't specify doesn't mean he's vulnerable to it either. Let's say MM decided not to use any of his telepathic powers, would Gladiator stand a chance then?
Manhunter wins easily. Just like Rider/Nova used the psionics in his helmet/suit to instantly break the Strontian females concentration, confidence and arrogance when he asked King Blastaar for 15 minutes to rescue his younger brother, he knocked her out with one punch, once, and only once her mentality was broken and frayed.
I believe Manhunter can easily do the same. Without that I believe it would be a wild slugfest...
@majestic99 said:
@Illuminatus: Just because it doesn't specify doesn't mean he's vulnerable to it either. Let's say MM decided not to use any of his telepathic powers, would Gladiator stand a chance then?
That's not how the battle forums work. Too my knowledge, Gladiator has never showcased any exceptional resistance or even complete resistance to telepathy based attacks.
Why would J'onn not use those abilities?
@majestic99 said:
@Illuminatus: Just because it doesn't specify doesn't mean he's vulnerable to it either. Let's say MM decided not to use any of his telepathic powers, would Gladiator stand a chance then?
The only showing of his resisting telepathy was when Rachel Grey tried to use her powers to affect his confidence. Even then, it didn't work. That shouldn't extend to J'onn who's a more powerful telepath than she is, and the same time, she only used one form of telepathy. J'onn is open to using different forms of telepathic attacks, since neither one is the same as the other (all of them have different effects).
There's no reason to assume that J'onn wouldn't use telepathy. Objectively, he wouldn't use it at the beginning of the fight, but to gain the upper hand after gauging Gladiator's abilities, he would use that ability more often than not.
As NeonBlade stated above, Nova was able to successfully use his psionics to break the concentration of another Strontian (Gladiator's race). No reason as to why J'onn can do the same.
@majestic99 said:
How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.
Lots of characters have shown to be vulnerable to psionics. It doesn't have to be listed as a weakness, since most characters don't have telepathic shielding and/or resistances.
Agree.In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.
If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.
@majestic99 said:
@Illuminatus said:
@majestic99 said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.
If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.
All powers are allowed.
Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.
How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.
Because it isn't. His powers can be block by psionic attacks, but he is acctually much more resistant to TP. Point is that, MM can make him weak for some time - Gladiator physical atributes will tottally drop.
Not too mention that his TP-resistance isn't good enough to take attack from Xavier-level telepath.
Gladiator's powers are reliant on one thing Manhunter's powers are excellent at attacking. His state of mind.
When your weakness is the other guy's strength, it makes for a short battle.
Martian Manhunter.
@Illuminatus: I was just wondering because I'm not a Gladiator expert. Thanks for the info!
As for why Jonn might not use it, it's a fight, anything can happen. I was just wondering.
The battle would start out a slugfest ,as soon as MM realizes what he's in for he'd have to switch tactics. He can't outfly Gladiator so he'd go intangible long enough to try and attack Gladiator with TP.
@majestic99: People don't like to mention that MM can go giant and stomp gladiator like an ant and overkill him with heat-vision since it's a bloodlusted battle XD
Martian Manhunter doesn't seem to fight with TP and intangibility all of the time - if Gladiator gets lucky with some heavy shots at the start, he could take it.
Martian Manhunter is the worst match-up for Gladiator.
Jonn , impressive as he is when he is busting 7 towers in 7 continents in one panel ,gets utterly blitzed before he can even react by the dude who moves interstellar distances / has conversations/ reacts/ straight up fights a dude with superspeed , across a universe wide 15 year long time freeze and has fights in nanoseconds outside of that
Seriously people, read FF 339. Now THATS speed
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