Martian Manhunter vs Gladiator

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#1  Edited By majestic99

No prep, no bfr, no time limit, both are completley unarmed, takes place on an uninhabited Earth, both bloodlusted and no one character is declared victor until the other is killed.

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#2  Edited By majestic99

This is basically a slugfest.

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In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

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#4  Edited By Spartan101

mm wins

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#5  Edited By TheSpiritStalker

MM

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#6  Edited By majestic99

@venomoushatred1001 said:

In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

All powers are allowed.

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#7  Edited By majestic99

@TheSpiritStalker: MM can merge with planets to increase his strength.

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#8  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

All powers are allowed.

Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.

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#9  Edited By jeanroygrant

@venomoushatred1001 said:

In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

This

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#10  Edited By Static Shock

I feel like this is a stomp in J'onn's favor, mainly because of telepathy and intangibility.

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#11  Edited By YoggSaron

J'onn probably doesn't even need his telepathy to come out on top. Intangibility, regeneration, and malleability can give him the win.

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#12  Edited By MrDirector786

Martian Manhunter mainly because of his psionic abilities.

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#13  Edited By nightwing91

Manhunter for the win.

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#14  Edited By kidchipotle

MM stomps this because of his powers. Martian Vision eff's everythang up

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#15  Edited By TheWholeDamnShow

What is this strange obsession with MM? How many MM threads have you made today?

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#16  Edited By super_psycho

Even in a fist fight i would say Martian manhunter because of his body(elasticity).

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#17  Edited By Void_Paladin

...Martian Manhunter.

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#18  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

MM because of the psionics, I don't know about Gladiators psi resistance but I still don't think it's enough to overcome.

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#19  Edited By majestic99

@TheWholeDamnShow said:

What is this strange obsession with MM? How many MM threads have you made today?

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#20  Edited By majestic99

@Illuminatus said:

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

All powers are allowed.

Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.

How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.

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#21  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

@majestic99 said:

@Illuminatus said:

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

All powers are allowed.

Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.

How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.

Does Wolverine have a well-kown weakness to telepathy? Nope. Does Cap? Nope.

Just because a character doesn't have a specified weakness to something, doesn't mean they aren't susceptible to it. Besides, J'onn's telepathy should go right through any TP Glads might have.

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#22  Edited By majestic99

@Illuminatus: Just because it doesn't specify doesn't mean he's vulnerable to it either. Let's say MM decided not to use any of his telepathic powers, would Gladiator stand a chance then?

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#23  Edited By NeonBlade

Manhunter wins easily. Just like Rider/Nova used the psionics in his helmet/suit to instantly break the Strontian females concentration, confidence and arrogance when he asked King Blastaar for 15 minutes to rescue his younger brother, he knocked her out with one punch, once, and only once her mentality was broken and frayed.

I believe Manhunter can easily do the same. Without that I believe it would be a wild slugfest...

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#24  Edited By TrueIlluminatus

@majestic99 said:

@Illuminatus: Just because it doesn't specify doesn't mean he's vulnerable to it either. Let's say MM decided not to use any of his telepathic powers, would Gladiator stand a chance then?

That's not how the battle forums work. Too my knowledge, Gladiator has never showcased any exceptional resistance or even complete resistance to telepathy based attacks.

Why would J'onn not use those abilities?

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#25  Edited By Static Shock

@majestic99 said:

@Illuminatus: Just because it doesn't specify doesn't mean he's vulnerable to it either. Let's say MM decided not to use any of his telepathic powers, would Gladiator stand a chance then?

The only showing of his resisting telepathy was when Rachel Grey tried to use her powers to affect his confidence. Even then, it didn't work. That shouldn't extend to J'onn who's a more powerful telepath than she is, and the same time, she only used one form of telepathy. J'onn is open to using different forms of telepathic attacks, since neither one is the same as the other (all of them have different effects).

There's no reason to assume that J'onn wouldn't use telepathy. Objectively, he wouldn't use it at the beginning of the fight, but to gain the upper hand after gauging Gladiator's abilities, he would use that ability more often than not.

As NeonBlade stated above, Nova was able to successfully use his psionics to break the concentration of another Strontian (Gladiator's race). No reason as to why J'onn can do the same.

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#26  Edited By Static Shock

@majestic99 said:

How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.

Lots of characters have shown to be vulnerable to psionics. It doesn't have to be listed as a weakness, since most characters don't have telepathic shielding and/or resistances.

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#27  Edited By NeonBlade

For anyone wondering. The issue was Nova #28

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#28  Edited By _Black

J'onn.

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#29  Edited By czarny_samael666
@venomoushatred1001 said:

In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

Agree.
 
@majestic99 said:

@Illuminatus said:

@majestic99 said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

In a slugfest, Gladiator. Better strength feats.

If all powers are allowed, MM stomps.

All powers are allowed.

Then Gladiator gets mind-wiped.

How do you know that Gladiator is vulnerable to psionics? The link doesn't list that as one of Gladiator's weaknesses.


Because it isn't. His powers can be block by psionic attacks, but he is acctually much more resistant to TP. Point is that, MM can make him weak for some time - Gladiator physical atributes will tottally drop. 
Not too mention that his TP-resistance isn't good enough to take attack from Xavier-level telepath.
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#30  Edited By lady_liberty

Gladiator's powers are reliant on one thing Manhunter's powers are excellent at attacking. His state of mind.

When your weakness is the other guy's strength, it makes for a short battle.

Martian Manhunter.

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#31  Edited By majestic99

@Illuminatus: I was just wondering because I'm not a Gladiator expert. Thanks for the info!

As for why Jonn might not use it, it's a fight, anything can happen. I was just wondering.

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#32  Edited By thanobomb1124

Nice pic of gladiator but he would lose.

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#33  Edited By lectriccolossus

I'm a fan of Gladiator, but would he really be able to beat MM if they both just slugged it out?

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#34  Edited By WaveMotionCannon

The battle would start out a slugfest ,as soon as MM realizes what he's in for he'd have to switch tactics. He can't outfly Gladiator so he'd go intangible long enough to try and attack Gladiator with TP.

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#35  Edited By Morbid_Pyro

@majestic99: People don't like to mention that MM can go giant and stomp gladiator like an ant and overkill him with heat-vision since it's a bloodlusted battle XD

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#36  Edited By Erkan12

Gladiator ftw.

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Martian Manhunter doesn't seem to fight with TP and intangibility all of the time - if Gladiator gets lucky with some heavy shots at the start, he could take it.

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If Martian Manhunter use his abilities in the right way....he should beat gladiator

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#39  Edited By DeathandGrim

Manhunter has this one pretty handily. And it's gonna get messy.

That's... painful
That's... painful

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Martian Manhunter is the worst match-up for Gladiator.

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Martian Manhunter is way to versatile. Anything Gladiator can do he can do better.

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Taste 100 times faster than light!!! G!

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@dondave said:

Martian Manhunter is the worst match-up for Gladiator.

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Martian-Manhunter without even having to move.

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Jonn , impressive as he is when he is busting 7 towers in 7 continents in one panel ,gets utterly blitzed before he can even react by the dude who moves interstellar distances / has conversations/ reacts/ straight up fights a dude with superspeed , across a universe wide 15 year long time freeze and has fights in nanoseconds outside of that

Seriously people, read FF 339. Now THATS speed

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#46  Edited By dondave

Still right

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Martian Manhunter wins while taking a dump because of overdose in Chocos.

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Yeah sure

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@dondave said:

Martian Manhunter is the worst match-up for Gladiator.

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MMH wins