Martian Manhunter vs. Etrigan

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#1  Edited By TifaLockhart

I know J'Onn won in the cartoon, but would he win in the comics?

Stipulations: If and only if Hellfire proves to be too much for J'Onn, then consider it disabled for thread purposes. Thanks.

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#2  Edited By TheBatman586

MM should win. I don't think Etrigan has ever shown immunity to telepathy.

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#3  Edited By TifaLockhart

@TheBatman586: A VERY good point. I've read all of Grant's run and can't recall an instance off the top of my head. I suppose I should get around to reading my big Kirby reprint book sometime soon.

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#4  Edited By King_Saturn
Martian Manhunter wins here against Etrigan the Demon. 
Martian Manhunter has Telepathy that would screw with Etrigan's head... as well as Martian Manhunter could go Intangible to avoid Etrigan's Hellfire attacks... 
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#5  Edited By jashro44

I believe martian manhunter wins. If I'm not mistaken he has over come his weakness to fire and as mentioned he is a telepath.

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#6  Edited By Outside_85
@jashro44: He's overcome his fear of normal fire, a fire of passion can still hurt him (according to what he told Superman in the Fernus aftermath), but Hellfire is something else (though Artemis managed to survive it).
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#7  Edited By TheMightyAvenger

I'll give it Martian Manhunter, because of TP, I don't think Etrigan has any resistance to it. Although perhaps Hellfire could pose a problem.

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MM.

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#9  Edited By Stronger

@venomoushatred1001 said:

MM.

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#10  Edited By Killemall

@King Saturn said:

Martian Manhunter wins here against Etrigan the Demon.
Martian Manhunter has Telepathy that would screw with Etrigan's head... as well as Martian Manhunter could go Intangible to avoid Etrigan's Hellfire attacks...

I sorta agree but just a question, wouldnt hellfire make him go all huff and puff?? because although MM has some resistance to fire i dont think he has ever shown a complete immunity to it, and hell fire is prolly the worst kind of fire.

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#11  Edited By King_Saturn
@Killemall said:

@King Saturn said:

Martian Manhunter wins here against Etrigan the Demon.
Martian Manhunter has Telepathy that would screw with Etrigan's head... as well as Martian Manhunter could go Intangible to avoid Etrigan's Hellfire attacks...

I sorta agree but just a question, wouldnt hellfire make him go all huff and puff?? because although MM has some resistance to fire i dont think he has ever shown a complete immunity to it, and hell fire is prolly the worst kind of fire.

I believe Martian Manhunter has gotten over his Fear of Fire... So even if Hellfire is More Potent in Attack... it should not matter what kind of fire it is as long as MM goes Intangible to avoid it.
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#12  Edited By EpitomeofCool

martian takes it....

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#13  Edited By TifaLockhart

Anyone can survive Hellfire. It burns the soul, not the body. It did as much damage to Sam Donaldson as it did to Superman.

That said, it hurts like hell.

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#14  Edited By *Void*

@King Saturn said:

@Killemall said:

@King Saturn said:

Martian Manhunter wins here against Etrigan the Demon.
Martian Manhunter has Telepathy that would screw with Etrigan's head... as well as Martian Manhunter could go Intangible to avoid Etrigan's Hellfire attacks...

I sorta agree but just a question, wouldnt hellfire make him go all huff and puff?? because although MM has some resistance to fire i dont think he has ever shown a complete immunity to it, and hell fire is prolly the worst kind of fire.

I believe Martian Manhunter has gotten over his Fear of Fire... So even if Hellfire is More Potent in Attack... it should not matter what kind of fire it is as long as MM goes Intangible to avoid it.
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#15  Edited By RGow8

Two of my favorite characters, great back stories and both super powerful top tier herald level. But J'onn wins this any number of ways if he's really trying.

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MMH

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Etrigan by way of hell fire or magic. Martian Manhunter could win by using telepathy but that is not his go to move so he will lose here.

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Martian Manhunter.

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They fought in the comics once or twice and J'onn won

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@yarva: No, Hellfire won't do shit to MMH. And magic isn't effective either.

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J'onn overcame his weakness to biological fire. The issue here is that I'm pretty sure Etrigan's fire is magic based, which begs the question if J'onn could also tolerate or stand up to magic fire in the same capacity as normal fire.

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Someone show me Martian Manhunter doing anything more than a simple mind probe on a magical being. I've never seen it.

Additionally, hellfire can still hurt him. He isn't immune to fire he just isn't afraid of it.

J'onn can still win I think, but not by TP.

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@necronn- said:

@yarva: No, Hellfire won't do shit to MMH. And magic isn't effective either.

Yes it would. There is no reason to think otherwise. And of course magic would be effective. Anti magic magic spray isn't one of MMH's powers.

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Hellfire solos J'obb. He doesn't do offensive TP in character either.

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Martian man hunter

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@uallhoes said:

Martian man hunter

Not really, no.

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Guy who breaths fire vs guy who is afraid of fire. Gee, I wonder.