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#1 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

No prep,bfr, time limit, or gear, both bloodlusted, takes place on an uninhabited Earth. No one character wins until the other is killed.

Character Versions:

Martian Manhunter

Powers

Martian Physiology: Martian Manhunter has been described as "the Swiss Army knife of superheroes." He possesses many of the powers of Superman. Note: Many, if not all of the Martian Manhunter's powers and abilities are common to members of his race, even if demonstration of such abilities has not been explicitly shown in a canonical resource. His powers come from his alien physiology. Born of Mars over a millennium ago, from a super advanced civilization, boasting advanced technology and genetic modifications over its people, the Martian Manhunter would appear to be a genetically modified being with incredible powers stemming from the changes made in his body. Whether this is their natural state or an advanced state given to only a few individuals is unknown. The Martian's physiology would seem to be composed of a complex molecular chain that resembles polymer bonds but with the ability to be altered at will. The Martian Manhunter can change his mass, color, relative shape, imitating even clothing if desired. The bio-polymer is extremely flexible, durable, incredibly strong for a biological material and apparently self-sustaining. It is unknown if the Martian Manhunter actually needs to eat or not but he has been seen consuming food, particularly "Chocos," a brand of cookies.

  • Superhuman Durability: The bio-morphic structure of the Manhunter's body allows him to absorb almost all kinetic energies such as high caliber-bullets, shrapnel, or flying debris easily. He can harden his bio-polymers by rebinding them and increase his durability to the point where he is nearly on par with Superman. Along with his nigh-invulnerability, his shape shifting makes him even more difficult to harm. Hazardous environments practically do not affect the Martian Manhunter. In addition, Martian Manhunter's immune system protects him from all toxins and diseases (meaning he is unable to succumb to any earthly disease or infection).
    • Longevity
    • Super Hearing
    • Super Breath: The inner valves and chambers inside the Martian Manhunter's air canals are very dense and greatly enhanced, allowing him to, much like Superman, create strong hurricane force winds just by exhaling sending pressured air out.
    • Martian Vision: The actual nature of this power seems to vary depending on the reports. It has been seen to be a bolt of force, directed by the Manhunter's eyes causing considerable damage, he has shown that he could easily cause damage greater than 1000 lbs of TNT. It has also been seen to cause flammable objects to catch fire. The range of this power is also unknown but has been seen to be effective at ranges of 1000 feet and more. He can increase the power of his Martian Vision to levels that would even injure the likes of Superman. It also grants J'onn the ability to see into other spectrums of light. J'onn can use his Martian vision to see the invisible. For example, upon their first meeting, J'onn's power allowed him to see past's Metahuman camouflage ability; other effects unknown.
  • Superhuman Strength: The Martian Manhunter is one of the strongest beings on the planet. The Martian's superhuman strength comes from his plasmorphic structure formed from immensely long and complex molecular chains, augmented with his psionic and telekinetic abilities allowing him to lift incredible weights without these weights crumbling under the stress. The Martian has been seen lifting tankers out of the ocean for vast distances, stalemating powerhouses like Superman, and he has even helped tow the moon and objects as large as the Earth itself together with Superman. J'onn's strength is great enough to the point that he has drawn blood from beings as durable as Kryptonians such as Supergirl by his punches alone. By modifying the density of these bio-polymers, the Manhunter can make himself stronger by forcing the polymers into tighter bundles. While at a rest state the limits of his strength are unknown, the Manhunter can lift 100 tons without much effort. He is nearly as powerful as the likes of Superman when concentrating his bio-polymers to their full capabilities.
  • Superhuman Endurance: J'onn's endurance is just as formidable as his strength or invulnerability. He can operate under extreme conditions for an indeterminate period of time without showing signs of fatigue. The exact range of this power is unknown.
  • Regeneration: The Martian Manhunter has shown amazing regenerative abilities. His regenerative abilities are so great that he has been able to completely regenerate from nothing but his severed hand, regenerate in moments from nothing than a puddle of green liquid and other moments, having his head cut off, and he has shown total control over his molecular structure.
  • Flight: The Martian Manhunter flies by manipulation of gravitons (a subatomic particle associated with the force of gravity), manipulation of magnetic fields and control of his absolute molecular movement (a telekinetic effect). These combine to give him the ability to fly great distances with little fatigue and at great speed. He has been seen to fly at Mach 10 speeds (7690 mph) in the Earth's atmosphere. Speeds faster than this cause great environmental damage and are avoided unless absolutely necessary. His bio-polymorphic skin and overall toughness make these speeds bearable and cause him no injury. The Manhunter has also been seen flying in space with no difficulty, and in space he can fly at speeds that has allowed him to keep up with the likes of even Superman. J'onn can therefore fly at speeds exceeding the escape velocity of earth (7 miles per second) under his own power.
  • Superhuman Speed: Either through flight or natural movement, the Martian Manhunter can maintain speed and reflexes far in excess to that of even most superhumans. Like the power of flight, this is accomplished by manipulating the magnetic fields of energy surrounding his body, as well as ambient gravitational particles. Traditionally, J'onn only uses his superhuman speed while flying. He has admitted that he is not as fast as Superman but this can be argued as he has shown speed feats that is nearly at Superman's level, such as the speed necessary to fly around the earth destroying multiple targets around the planet in seconds and managed to also save Kyle Rayner in the end. He can process thoughts, move, and react at super speed. J'onn has also demonstarted that he is fast enough to comfortably catch bullets and other propelled projectiles.
    • Shape-Shifting, Malleability, Plasticity, Elongation: The most incredible of the powers of the Manhunter is the ability to shape-shift. He is able to literally control the molecular structure of his body's bio-polymer and make it resemble anything he wants. He can form clothing and weapons with non-moving or non-functioning parts. There does not seem to be any limit to the number of people the Manhunter can imitate and has stood in as a double for many famous people. His ability to imitate people and their mannerisms has stood him in good stead for his disguises. He has recently been seen to shape-shift into the size and shape of a common house fly and to enormous sizes comparable to skyscrapers. He is also able to change colors.
    • Invisibility: The Manhunter can cause the bio-polymers in his body to lose their ability to reflect light, rendering the Manhunter invisible to normal light and human sight. With more increased concentration, he can render himself completely invisible along the electromagnetic spectrum, including the infrared and the ultraviolet ranges of the spectrum. This invisibility does not affect every other sense and he could still be detected by touch.
    • Phasing: The Manhunter can phase through solid matter. No explanation of this power has been given, but it might possibly be an aspect of his psionic powers, perhaps shifting his mass into another dimension or out of vibrational phase with other objects in this dimension.
  • Extrasensory Input: J'onn possesses nine different senses. One of these senses could account for instances of the Manhunter's perceived precognitive abilities.
  • Telepathy: The Martian Manhunter is the most powerful telepath on the planet, and is one of the strongest telepathic beings in the Universe. He is able to read the mind of any human with no difficulties, and the only minds that can cause him trouble are insane minds. He can even read their subconscious mind as well. He can scan the mind of every person on Earth within a matter of moments. He can read a mind over great distances. This telepathy extends to distances as far away as the moon, since it is known that the Martian Manhunter can communicate with Earth with his telepathy. It is not known whether there is any limit to the number of people he can be attuned to or whether there are any special requirements to being attuned to him. In addition to reading minds, the Martian Manhunter has a multitude of other telepathic capabilities, one of which allows him to literally reprogram the mind of a subject into believing whatever he wants them to. He can use this ability to help subjects forget things that he does not want them to remember as well as set up post-hypnotic suggestions.
  • Strength level

Class 100+; J'onn can lift well over 100 tons . On Earth, the Martian Manhunter is physically one of the mightiest heroes possessing vast levels of superhuman strength, strong enough to lift tremendous weights even at a rest state, however on Mars J'onn possesses the strength level of an average adult male Martian in peak physical condition. He has shown that his strength is on par to the likes of Superman and Wonder Woman and he has shown that his is so strong he is capable of helping move objects as large as the planet earth.

Weaknesses

  • Psychic Pyrophobia: The Martian Manhunter has a psychosomatic fear of fire. It is unknown what the source of this fear is, whether it is a personal fear or a cultural fear, but whichever it is, it is a paralytic fear with the Manhunter. Exposure to fire, causes him to lose his powers, and in the case of extreme fire, to lose his control over his biomorphic form. The Manhunter is more vulnerable in this form and can take damage in this vulnerable state.

He is now invulnerable to flames unless they are "flames of passion" or of some other "psychic significance."

  • Choco Addiction: It has also been suggested that something within J'onn's physiology makes him addicted to the chemicals used in the Earth snack, Chocos. Withdrawal symptoms include violent bursts of rage, and loss of intellect. However, these claims have never been accurately substantiated, and may even be false.

Darkseid

Powers

New God Physiology: The beings of Apokolips call themselves Gods and live outside of normal time and space in a realm called the Fourth World. These New Gods have evolved due to their close proximity to the Source, a primeval energy, believed to be one of the ultimate foundations of the Universal Expression of Energy, along with their superior technology, into beings of genetic stability and evolutionary perfection. The denizens of New Genesis are immortal, stronger, faster, and smarter than homo sapiens, despite their resemblance.

Omega Effect: Darkseid wields a cosmic energy field called "Omega Effect", which proves integral, as it is the core from which his other abilities manifest from. This effect allows him to transverse through time and space, also enabling him to break interpretable barriers and force-fields.

  • Omega Beams: Darkseid's main power. He focuses this power as a form of energy that he fires from his eyes. This effect is not only a relentless attack, but it is capable of teleporting the target to any location Darkseid chooses and recall them later or erase the target from the universe and similarly reform them. Darkseid has pinpoint control over his Omega Beams, and his unerring aim allows it to travel in straight lines or bend, twist or curve around corners. It has been shown that the Omega Beams are ineffective against the bracelets of Wonder Woman, as they were created from the Olympian Aegis. He has claimed that no being had yet withstood the full force of the Omega Beam, but Doomsday and Superman nonetheless survived the attack.
  • Telepathy: Darkseid can easily read minds of others anywhere in entire Universe. In this ability, he can also attack or invade someone's mind with images.
  • Mind Control: Darkseid can control the actions, thoughts and speech of humans just by thinking. In the scope of this ability, he can apparently, control and take over 100 individuals at once, indicating the capacity potential his brain can achieve.
  • Telekinesis: Darkseid can mentally influence the movement of objects and people with his mind; he often makes things float with simple gestures of his hand.
  • Matter Manipulation: Darkseid can transmute and manipulate matter, and in extension atoms, at will; he can destroy humans with a mere thought, and as such, he can even create his own creature complexions by design out of nothing, as he did when he created the being known as Strayne. Also, Darkseid can cause organisms to degrade and de-evolve.
  • Molecular Dispersion: He is also able to dissipate and disperse the molecules of an object or organism, effectively erasing them from existence.
  • Avatar Creation: A simple thought allows Darkseid to create liable avatars if/when the need arises.
  • Psionic Possession: psychic abilities to possess an individual and negate any superhuman abilities they may have.
  • Energy Manipulation: can also mentally control most known forms of energy, allowing him to erect protective force fields and project withering energy bolts.
  • Teleportation: Darkseid can teleport himself and other beings anywhere in the entire Universe even through other dimensions at a mere thought.
  • Size Alteration: Darkseid can easily manipulate his size, density and mass just by thinking, enabling him to become any size he wants.
  • Time Travel: Darkseid can move and transverse through time at ease.
  • Divine Empowerment: Darkseid could endow his lesser subjects with enormous powers. either granting them new abilities, increasing old ones they already possess or restoring lost powers to others at higher levels. He's done so with Mantis, Dr. Bedlam, Mary Marvel and his son; K
#2 Edited by Nefarious (17625 posts) - - Show Bio

You didn't have to copy and paste their powers and abilities. We know what they are. 
 
Also, this has been done...(many times, if I am sure).

#3 Posted by JediXMan (28068 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

You didn't have to copy and paste their powers and abilities. We know what they are. Also, this has been done...(many times, if I am sure).

This, exactly.

#4 Posted by Saren (24415 posts) - - Show Bio

Hopefully MrDirector786 or someone else with substantial Darkseid knowledge can clarify what his TP resistance is like.

Factoring out telepathy (for the time being):

Pre-DCnU Darkseid wins. Omega Beams wrecked Cyborg Superman once Darkseid reached the peak of his powers, they should work here as well.

Post-DCnU Darkseid slaughterhouse. J'onn doesn't have very many great feats yet. Darkseid one-shotted Superman and curbstomped Green Lantern.

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#5 Posted by AweSam (7125 posts) - - Show Bio

It's been done, but kudos on posting their abilities.

#6 Posted by Nefarious (17625 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediXMan: Yep.
#7 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

You didn't have to copy and paste their powers and abilities. We know what they are. Also, this has been done...(many times, if I am sure).

Someone in another thread I created complained that just giving links isn't good enough, so from now on, I'm just going to their powers.

#8 Posted by JediXMan (28068 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@Nefarious said:

You didn't have to copy and paste their powers and abilities. We know what they are. Also, this has been done...(many times, if I am sure).

Someone in another thread I created complained that just giving links isn't good enough, so from now on, I'm just going to their powers.

You should be posting feats, not copying and pasting like that.

#9 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

@AweSam said:

It's been done, but kudos on posting their abilities.

Thanks.

@JediXMan: Read above post.

#10 Posted by Nefarious (17625 posts) - - Show Bio
@majestic99: Ohh..
#11 Posted by JediXMan (28068 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@AweSam said:

It's been done, but kudos on posting their abilities.

Thanks.

@JediXMan: Read above post.

What about it? I still disagree. Posting feats like that is rather unnecessary - especially when it is not the topic creator's job to do the debating, unless it's for the purpose of keeping the fight even. One should be more concerned with laying out the scenario in the OP.

#12 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan: There are tons of feats Martian Manhunter has, you have to specify which ability/power you want to see. But I'll just post some random feats to start with:

While speedblitzing over 3 White Martians.

White Martian passes the Flash(note, this doesn't mean a White Martian is faster than the Flash, its showing that White Martians can keep up a consistent running pace with the Flash) and White Martians possess the same powers/abilities as Green Martians.

#13 Posted by demifiendreturns (50 posts) - - Show Bio

DS. next

#14 Edited by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by JediXMan (28068 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99:

I wasn't asking for feats, I know what both can do. All I'm saying is that it's not necessary to mention that in the OP. A link will suffice. If someone asks what they can do, then you can reply to them with feats.

#16 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@majestic99:

I wasn't asking for feats, I know what both can do. All I'm saying is that it's not necessary to mention that in the OP. A link will suffice. If someone asks what they can do, then you can reply to them with feats.

Ohhh.... man I just spent 30 minutes putting up those scans. Thanks for clearing it up.

#17 Posted by Saren (24415 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: Superman was amped by the sun during that fight.

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#18 Posted by terry2012 (4752 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid wins

#19 Posted by toby5678910 (340 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99: lol isnt darkseid not outright killing batman in 1 hit a sign of weakness?

#20 Posted by Saren (24415 posts) - - Show Bio

@toby5678910 said:

@majestic99: lol isnt darkseid not outright killing batman in 1 hit a sign of weakness?

Darkseid was toying with him, Batman had a mother box to protect him for a while and the entire Superman/Batman series is a PIS-fest.

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#21 Posted by Bernicky (379 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Hopefully MrDirector786 or someone else with substantial Darkseid knowledge can clarify what his TP resistance is like.

Factoring out telepathy (for the time being):

Pre-DCnU Darkseid wins. Omega Beams wrecked Cyborg Superman once Darkseid reached the peak of his powers, they should work here as well.

Post-DCnU Darkseid slaughterhouse. J'onn doesn't have very many great feats yet. Darkseid one-shotted Superman and curbstomped Green Lantern.

this

#22 Posted by Enemybird (3103 posts) - - Show Bio

I just looked up a couple vid's of darkseid on youtube... one guy said... "What the hell is darkseid? He look s like a dark version of the thing" lol

#23 Posted by _Black (2302 posts) - - Show Bio

Uxas.

#24 Posted by SPM1M (751 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Hopefully MrDirector786 or someone else with substantial Darkseid knowledge can clarify what his TP resistance is like.

Factoring out telepathy (for the time being):

Pre-DCnU Darkseid wins. Omega Beams wrecked Cyborg Superman once Darkseid reached the peak of his powers, they should work here as well.

Post-DCnU Darkseid slaughterhouse. J'onn doesn't have very many great feats yet. Darkseid one-shotted Superman and curbstomped Green Lantern.

very well put i agree

#25 Posted by YoungThriller (746 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian manhunter can handle it.

#26 Posted by Void_Paladin (901 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Hopefully MrDirector786 or someone else with substantial Darkseid knowledge can clarify what his TP resistance is like.

Factoring out telepathy (for the time being):

Pre-DCnU Darkseid wins. Omega Beams wrecked Cyborg Superman once Darkseid reached the peak of his powers, they should work here as well.

Post-DCnU Darkseid slaughterhouse. J'onn doesn't have very many great feats yet. Darkseid one-shotted Superman and curbstomped Green Lantern.

Agreed.

#27 Posted by geraldthesloth (33313 posts) - - Show Bio

For real? Darkseid should take this after a little scuffle, most of the New Gods have a high telepathic resistance for the most part. Darkseid has taught the people that work with him the ability to resist anyone but his telepathy. I think that should for the most part cut out the idea of Manhunter being able to get in his head.

#28 Posted by XiiX (4971 posts) - - Show Bio

@Enemybird said:

I just looked up a couple vid's of darkseid on youtube... one guy said... "What the hell is darkseid? He look s like a dark version of the thing" lol

Hahaha!

#29 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

@toby5678910 said:

@majestic99: lol isnt darkseid not outright killing batman in 1 hit a sign of weakness?

If you read my comment, I said Darkseid was toying with Batman, meaning Darkseid could've killed Batman if he wanted to.

#30 Posted by Dernman (14052 posts) - - Show Bio
@majestic99 said:

@toby5678910 said:

@majestic99: lol isnt darkseid not outright killing batman in 1 hit a sign of weakness?

If you read my comment, I said Darkseid was toying with Batman, meaning Darkseid could've killed Batman if he wanted to.

Not sure toying is the right word but I agree with what you are trying get across. Darkseid wasn't trying to kill, KO or hurt Batman too badly because he needed the codes from him.
#31 Posted by King Saturn (222855 posts) - - Show Bio
Darkseid should be able to defeat Martian Manhunter 
#32 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid

#33 Posted by MrDirector786 (43133 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Hopefully MrDirector786 or someone else with substantial Darkseid knowledge can clarify what his TP resistance is like.

Factoring out telepathy (for the time being):

Pre-DCnU Darkseid wins. Omega Beams wrecked Cyborg Superman once Darkseid reached the peak of his powers, they should work here as well.

Post-DCnU Darkseid slaughterhouse. J'onn doesn't have very many great feats yet. Darkseid one-shotted Superman and curbstomped Green Lantern.

Nice to see my name being mentioned. :P

To be honest, I'm not to sure how good his TP resistance is. I do, however, remember that there was an issue where Apokolips invaded Mars and prior to that, beings from Apokolips went there pretending to be their allies. The Martians were also surprised when they later came and attacked. I'm not sure if they couldn't read their minds or if they simply didn't for some reason as I don't remember a reason ever being stated. However, they did ultimately repel the forces of Apokolips by joining their minds and then telepathically forcing them all to go away. Though, I also feel I should mention that in that story, Darkseid also teleported J'onn from Apokolips back to Mars with his omega effect.

#34 Posted by demifiendreturns (50 posts) - - Show Bio

@majestic99 said:

@toby5678910 said:

@majestic99: lol isnt darkseid not outright killing batman in 1 hit a sign of weakness?

If you read my comment, I said Darkseid was toying with Batman, meaning Darkseid could've killed Batman if he wanted to.

true

#35 Posted by 0blivion_ (623 posts) - - Show Bio

@King Saturn said:

Darkseid should be able to defeat Martian Manhunter
#36 Posted by pizzatrails (23 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian Manhunter! He can do many things and i doubt that Darkseid has any chocos on him. There is fire, but J'onn is immune to that now. Plus J'onn has many tricks up his sleeve.

#37 Posted by termiteone4ever (6694 posts) - - Show Bio

Now John is powerful but he is not as powerful as the real darkseid. Now avatars he is still not defeating . I think later on in JLA 1 million John was still living fought darkseid to a stand still he wasnt holding back then and was unleashing various amount power. Any way john at this level cant defeat Darksied later on well he can only draw with him

#38 Posted by MrDirector786 (43133 posts) - - Show Bio

@pizzatrails said:

Martian Manhunter! He can do many things and i doubt that Darkseid has any chocos on him. There is fire, but J'onn is immune to that now. Plus J'onn has many tricks up his sleeve.

Darkseid can always turn him into a rock with his omega effect. And Darkseid's beams have shown that they can work on him. And Darkseid still has many other ways of beating him.

#39 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid

#40 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

bump...

m99

#41 Posted by TifaLockhart (13841 posts) - - Show Bio

J'Onn's brother literally worshipped Darkseid.

If that doesn't convince you, Sleez's mindcontrol was no-sold by Mister Miracle, because Granny taught him to resist mindcontrol that isn't as powerful as Darkseid's.

If THAT doesn't convince you, then J'Onn himself will admit that he and his allies cannot win against Darkseid and his forces in the 853rd Century.

#42 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid

#43 Posted by majestic99 (8638 posts) - - Show Bio

bump...

#44 Posted by Freefa11 (2333 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

J'Onn's brother literally worshipped Darkseid.

I'm not sure what that would have to do with anything. Anyone can worship anything if they want to.

If that doesn't convince you, Sleez's mindcontrol was no-sold by Mister Miracle, because Granny taught him to resist mindcontrol that isn't as powerful as Darkseid's.

I would consider an actual feat of Darkseid mindcontrolling something to be much more persuasive. I'm sure everyone on Apokolips believes he has it, but then, everyone on Apokolips is conditioned to believe all kinds of propaganda about Darkseid. He is the deific version of Big Brother, after all.

If THAT doesn't convince you, then J'Onn himself will admit that he and his allies cannot win against Darkseid and his forces in the 853rd Century.

Didn't they beat him though? Or at least, keep him from winning?

#45 Posted by Blacklightning13 (916 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: About right.

#46 Posted by TDK_1997 (13740 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-DCnU Darkseid wins.

DCnU Darkseid wins.

#47 Posted by TifaLockhart (13841 posts) - - Show Bio

@Freefa11: Yes. J'Onn tackles him into the Source and Darkseid acknowledges his time is over, or something. Then J'Onn becomes Mars.

#48 Posted by Saren (24415 posts) - - Show Bio

J'onn and the rest of the Martians fought an Apokoliptian army in the In My Life arc of his series. He (or it might have been his father?) said that the minds of the Apokoliptians were impenetrable, all the Martians had to combine their power in the Great Voice to repel them.

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#49 Posted by nickthedevil (11089 posts) - - Show Bio

@demifiendreturns said:

DS. next
#50 Posted by capfan80 (348 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid