#1 Edited by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 Power house battle

Who will win this battle, the rules go as followed

  • TP for Martian Manhunter
  • No BFR
  • No allies or external resources
  • Both at standard power
  • Random encounter
  • Basic knowledge of eachother
  • Battle is won by Death, Incapacitation, K.O. or Surrender

Battle takes place here

Rules regarding location

  • Gotham city, night time
  • Battle start here, can be taken anywhere
  • They begin on opposite sides of the city
  • No bystanders, except for those driving vehicles
  • No Batman

Two round to this battle

  • Round 1: Morals on
  • Round 2: Bloodlusted
#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom both rounds easily.

#3 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: easily?

#4 Posted by dondave (38789 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara: He's basically a god now, but to a lesser extent

#5 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: what if i add TP?

#6 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@CalebHara: He's basically a god now, but to a lesser extent

Yeah, plus Martian Manhunter doesn't really have feats.

#7 Posted by dondave (38789 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara: I don't know if it'd affect him and like @jeanroygrant: said MMH barely has any feats to say he can fight Cap Atom

#8 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: he has taken on the Justice Leauge solo, and.. well you should just check his respect thread.

#9 Posted by dondave (38789 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara: I know, he my favourite character, but there's not may that beat Captain Atom in the New 52

#10 Posted by Sethlol (1296 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom.

#11 Edited by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom basically absorbs infinite amounts of radiation with appropriate absorbing speed

He can also generate red sun energy, which is martian's kryptonite

He also gave mr. Majestic a decent fight

I guess we know who wins

#12 Posted by Outside_85 (9926 posts) - - Show Bio

The New 52 Captain Atom can pretty much do anything he can think of. In the last issues of his solo series had him being asleep, made a human body for himself so he could go on a date, recreated a scientist's deceased mother, took another scientist to the end of the Universe to see the wave from the Big Bang, all at the same time.

So with morals off Atom could just point at J'onn and incinerate him.

Morals on however, I am not sure what J'onn has that can actually harm him.

#13 Posted by chiq (1990 posts) - - Show Bio

Doesn't new 52 MM have to touch people to mindrape them? I have only been reading StormWatch though....

#14 Posted by NeonGameWave (8388 posts) - - Show Bio

Due to the conditions, Captain Atom takes this.

#15 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sethlol said:

Captain Atom.

#16 Posted by thestarguy (359 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom...not even close. New 52 Captain Atom can even rebuild himself from the ground up molecularly, not to mention go intangible, invisible, change size at will, has enhanced perceptions and even time travel. The fight is already over as soon as Captain Atom even realizes there is a fight, as he simply waves his hand.

#17 Posted by Saren (26016 posts) - - Show Bio

Atom has better speed and energy projection feats, as well as the rest of his laundry list of powers with no limits. Based on how they'd match up in terms of raw power, I don't think there are any non-cosmic characters in the current DCU who could beat a bloodlusted Atom. Although he's never shown any kind of resistance to telepathic assault, so the Martian could theoretically beat him that way in a comic book. But that's a moot point since TP is disabled here. Neither of them really have much in the way of showings against established characters, but I think Atom's more powerful nonetheless.

I notice no one's pointed out that Atom is currently powerless, but I doubt that's what the OP intended.

@chiq said:

Doesn't new 52 MM have to touch people to mindrape them? I have only been reading StormWatch though....

No such limitation exists, even in Stormwatch.

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#18 Posted by Outside_85 (9926 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: If I understand what happened in Firestorm correctly, wasn't Atom actually shattered into a million bits and Captain Adym is just a fragment of him?

#19 Posted by Saren (26016 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

@CitizenBane: If I understand what happened in Firestorm correctly, wasn't Atom actually shattered into a million bits and Captain Adym is just a fragment of him?

Yes, but the rest of the pieces haven't resurfaced or been mentioned since, so for the purposes of the story Adym is Atom's current status.

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#20 Posted by beatboks1 (7415 posts) - - Show Bio

@matmatxm8 said:

He can also generate red sun energy, which is martian's kryptonite

??? O_o

#21 Edited by chiq (1990 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane: Oh ok. I seem to remember him needing to touch the heads of Jenny, Apollo and Midnighter in Stormwatch 12. He seemed to struggling w/ Jenny trying to mindwipe her. I remember thinking why do you need to get up close? why not do it from a distance. I''ll go reread it again.

#22 Posted by Saren (26016 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: In Stormwatch #9 he mindwiped an entire crowd without touching any of them.

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#23 Posted by dondave (38789 posts) - - Show Bio

@chiq: To be honest I think that's just writer's inconsistency, before in earlier issue Maertian Manhunter had no problem mind-wiping over 20 people when he was standing in front of them

#24 Posted by Bo88gdan (4489 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sethlol said:

Captain Atom.

#25 Posted by CalebHara (2329 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump, TP enabled, does this change anything?

#26 Posted by asIsuspected (543 posts) - - Show Bio

cap

#27 Posted by Needlebay (1948 posts) - - Show Bio

CA has already been labeled as the most powerful meta on earth. Same with Firestorm. I'd give him the odds over pretty much all top tiers out there.

#28 Posted by matmatxm8 (587 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1:

and just when I thought that you are expert of DC characters,

I'm surprised that you don't know about this

#29 Posted by ShiZZmAhh (546 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sethlol said:

Captain Atom.

#30 Posted by beatboks1 (7415 posts) - - Show Bio

@matmatxm8 said:

@beatboks1:

and just when I thought that you are expert of DC characters,

I'm surprised that you don't know about this

If it's DC NU52 there is no reason i would as all I've gotten is E2, demon knights, JLDark and legion kost. if it pre flashpoint your way wrong

#31 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

@dondave: what if i add TP?

Manhunter has great telepathy feats

bloodlust Manhunter with intagibility and telepathy > all the JLA

.

#32 Posted by dondave (38789 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade: pre-flashpoint MMH might have achance with his TP, but his New 52 counterpart doesn't haven't enough to suggest he can do it to New 52 CA

#33 Posted by lol (5388 posts) - - Show Bio