Martian manhunter vs Captain atom - Battles

#1 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

No prep fight takes place on a army base

#2 Posted by Silver2467 (16361 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Does Captain Atom have telepathic resistance? Because if not, then he's screwed.

#3 Edited by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Silver2467 said:

" Does Captain Atom have telepathic resistance?

Yeah, against mind control. At the same time, J'onn has been KO'ed easily by Quantum radiation. Once by Breach, and Atom himself did the same thing against an alternate version of J'onn. If he decided to go intangible, Atom would still be able to blast him by varying the frequencies of his blasts.

#4 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

Boom

#5 Posted by Silver2467 (16361 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

Yeah, against mind control. "

But what about other telepathic abilities?

#6 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Silver2467 said:

" But what about other telepathic abilities? "

Psychic bolts, but that's it.

#7 Posted by Silver2467 (16361 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

Psychic bolts, but that's it. "

Well if that's all, the Martian could create illusions, shut off his mind, or any number of different things. If the Martian didn't have his telepathy, this could be a good fight, but with it, Cap isn't going to do so well.

#8 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Silver2467 said:

" Well if that's all, the Martian could create illusions, shut off his mind, or any number of different things. If the Martian didn't have his telepathy, this could be a good fight, but with it, Cap isn't going to do so well. "

In a lot of battles, telepathy really isn't J'onn's first line of offense. He normally tries to go physical first, before attempting to use his telepathy. The battle can go either way, even if J'onn had his telepathy on deck.

#9 Posted by slacker the hacker (7615 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

there both superman level charecters

#10 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@slacker the hacker said:

" there both superman level charecters "

That also weighs in, but this battle has been done before anyway. I've made the same argument in three threads of the same name.

#11 Posted by Silver2467 (16361 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

In a lot of battles, telepathy really isn't J'onn's first line of offense. He normally tries to go physical first, before attempting to use his telepathy. The battle can go either way, even if J'onn had his telepathy on deck. "

The only reason for that is because he believes his telepathic abilities can be intrusive (which I can respect), but he's not afraid to use them when the situation calls for it. And in a fight with someone as powerful as Captain Atom, I think he'd be willing to use them.

#12 Edited by Static Shock (47330 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Silver2467 said:

"The only reason for that is because he believes his telepathic abilities can be intrusive (which I can respect), but he's not afraid to use them when the situation calls for it. And in a fight with someone as powerful as Captain Atom, I think he'd be willing to use them. "

Not that the very beginning. He didn't use them immediately against Breach (who has the same exact powers as Atom), and look what happened after J'onn blasted him. Also, J'onn did relatively well against Prime (who is more powerful than Atom) in a physical fight, and didn't need his telepathy at the time. Then there's Ultraman, whom he went physical against, and didn't use his telepathy immediately. Just saying, in most battles, he doesn't use it right of the bat.

#13 Posted by Silver2467 (16361 posts) - 2 years, 11 months ago - Show Bio

@Static Shock said:

Not that the very beginning. He didn't use them immediately against Breach (who has the same exact powers as Atom), and look what happened after J'onn blasted him. Also, J'onn did relatively well against Prime (who is more powerful than Atom) in a physical fight, and didn't need his telepathy at the time. Just saying, in most battles, he doesn't use it right of the bat. "

Well, you're right, he doesn't usually attack someone telepathically right away. But considering Atom's power set, he may need to use his telepathy. You're right that he was able to fight SBP physically, but, as you're well aware, Atom has a lot more at his disposal than brute strength. Given his energy output and speed, he may be able to keep the Martian at a distance. That is, unless Cap wants to make sure he fights him physically, so that he keeps the Martian doesn't resort to using his telepathy.

#14 Posted by NightFang (9222 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

Martian wins.

#15 Posted by tjizz350 (167 posts) - 11 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

good fight I'm gonna think on this one.

#16 Posted by CitizenBane (19825 posts) - 11 months, 28 days ago - Show Bio

Well........there was a 4 part Martian Manhunter mini in 1988 where Atom said J'onn could telepathically black out the minds of the assembled Leaguers, presumably including himself:

Though given that this is from 1988 Atom has probably had several instances of TP resistance in the 23 years since then. He could feel Voodoo rummaging around in his head.