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#1 Edited by NICK31898 (2134 posts) - - Show Bio

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I've seen a lot of "Why is Fantastic 4" ranked above Avengers, etc.. Well if you had read, MM still has fire weakness. Though he could probably beat the crap out of them still, I think The Human Torch makes them more of a threat.

Rules

Morals are off

All are bloodlusted

J'honn gets rest in between matches to make full recovery.

No BFR

No Speedblitz

J'honn still has fire weakness, but nobody knows about it.

Battles

I will start low, and move up.

The first few battles will be REALLY easy for him.

Rounds

Round 1: Wolverine & Cyclops

Round 2: Spider-man & Black Panther

Round 3: Iron Man(Thorbuster amor)

Round 4: Savage Hulk & Thor

Round 5: World Breaker Hulk & Betta Ray Bill

Round 6: Thor(Warriors Madness)

Round 7: Avengers(Captain America, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant Man, and Hawkeye)

Round 8: Dr. Doom (3 day prep)

Round 9: Fantastic 4

Round 10: Silver Surfer

#2 Posted by Evil Incarnate (3794 posts) - - Show Bio

Kal-El? Superman isn't in this...

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#3 Posted by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops 7.

#4 Posted by Erkan12 (2622 posts) - - Show Bio

4

#5 Posted by Baron_von_Santa (4280 posts) - - Show Bio

this is really confusing. the title and the content do not match

#6 Posted by NICK31898 (2134 posts) - - Show Bio

@evil_incarnate: Sorry I started with Supes, and changed it, I'l change it hold on....

#7 Posted by NICK31898 (2134 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: You're highlarious.

@erkan12: Can solo justice league, but not Avengers?

#8 Posted by Erkan12 (2622 posts) - - Show Bio

@erkan12: Can solo justice league, but not Avengers?

IMO He can't solo JL either.

#9 Edited by frozenedge (1193 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on which Avengers team you mean. Mighty Avengers, New Avengers/Illuminati, or Hickman's Avengers.

#10 Posted by reaverlation (15187 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: Wasn't joking. Martian can't solo the current Avengers.

#12 Edited by XiiX (7904 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7 or 8

#14 Posted by dagmar_merrill (7863 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7. Who are on Avengers?

#15 Posted by NICK31898 (2134 posts) - - Show Bio

@erkan12: Really? That's why every time on this website there has been a JL vs MM, MM comes out on top.

#16 Posted by NICK31898 (2134 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: How? Maybe I should let them know which MM this is? It's the most powerful version. Avengers don't have enough speed.

#17 Posted by sophia89 (3500 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules

Morals are off

All are bloodlusted

J'honn gets rest in between matches to make full recovery.

No BFR

No Speedblitz

J'honn still has fire weakness, but nobody knows about it.

Battles

I will start low, and move up.

The first few battles will be REALLY easy for him.

Rounds

Round 1: Wolverine & Cyclops

Round 2: Spider-man & Black Panther

Round 3: Iron Man(Thorbuster amor)

Round 4: Savage Hulk & Thor

Round 5: World Breaker Hulk & Betta Ray Bill

Round 6: Thor(Warriors Madness)

Round 7: All of Avengers

Round 8: Dr. Doom (3 day prep)

Round 9: Fantastic 4

Round 10: Silver Surfer

how is all of the avengers below the f4?

also thor beat ss every time they fought why is he so low?

#18 Posted by leonkarlen123 (4262 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 5 or 8.

#19 Posted by DarthAznable (6326 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 4 or 5.

#20 Posted by WillPayton (9331 posts) - - Show Bio

Who are in the Avengers?

#21 Posted by frozenedge (1193 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: they may not have the speed but they do have the firepower to possibly bypass his intangibility. Since you said all Avengers i'm counting the New Avengers/Illuminati, Hickman's Avengers, and the Mighty Avengers. That means J'onn is fighting Dr. Strange, Captain Universe, Starbrand, Nightmask, Blue Marvel, maybe Black Bolt

#22 Posted by RD189 (1137 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 8 without question, though arguments could be made for 5-6

#23 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: They have the likes of Hyperion, Captain Universe, Thor, Star-brand, Ms Marvel etc. They posses the overall power

#24 Edited by Stupid_People (1248 posts) - - Show Bio
#25 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: lol I agree, if anything other way around. Avengers would be easier to deal with then the JL lol.

But I'd say he stops at 10 imo. I think you probably have to be specific with the avengers though or you're going to get the "undead, unbeatable super death sentry and captain universe, etc" posts.

In that case, give MMH SA Superman ;) lol But nice thread man.

#26 Posted by tomlikesfries (4640 posts) - - Show Bio
#27 Posted by dondave (35987 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Surfer

#28 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (6231 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Wolverine, Cyclops, Spider-Man and Black Panther should not even be in the same thread with Martian Manhunter. Not even as fillers. Place all four together, and give them a few days to prep, with easy access to all T'Challa's resources and Horizon Labs tech, then that's another story perhaps.
  2. Without speed blitz capabilities, I'm not sure SS rates too far above Thor at all. Though, Thor jobs on Midgard and in most Avengers storylines, so I can see why he's getting the sour rep lately.
  3. Fantastic Four should not be placed above most Avengers lineups unless they are granted prep.
  4. Avengers lineup needs to be delineated.

Potentially stops at the Avengers depending who's on board for the fight.

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#29 Posted by dondave (35987 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: None of the Avengers you mentioned can actually resist his TP though.

#30 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Thor can, and will stop Martian from using TP long enough for the rest to contain him.

#31 Edited by sophia89 (3500 posts) - - Show Bio

  1. Wolverine, Cyclops, Spider-Man and Black Panther should not even be in the same thread with Martian Manhunter. Not even as fillers. Place all four together, and give them a few days to prep, with easy access to all T'Challa's resources and Horizon Labs tech, then that's another story perhaps.
  2. Without speed blitz capabilities, I'm not sure SS rates too far above Thor at all. Though, Thor jobs on Midgard and in most Avengers storylines, so I can see why he's getting the sour rep lately.
  3. Fantastic Four should not be placed above most Avengers lineups unless they are granted prep.
  4. Avengers lineup needs to be delineated.

Potentially stops at the Avengers depending who's on board for the fight.

really good post. :)

#32 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6231 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89 said:

@super_soldierxii said:
  1. Wolverine, Cyclops, Spider-Man and Black Panther should not even be in the same thread with Martian Manhunter. Not even as fillers. Place all four together, and give them a few days to prep, with easy access to all T'Challa's resources and Horizon Labs tech, then that's another story perhaps.
  2. Without speed blitz capabilities, I'm not sure SS rates too far above Thor at all. Though, Thor jobs on Midgard and in most Avengers storylines, so I can see why he's getting the sour rep lately.
  3. Fantastic Four should not be placed above most Avengers lineups unless they are granted prep.
  4. Avengers lineup needs to be delineated.

Potentially stops at the Avengers depending who's on board for the fight.

really good post. :)

Thankee.

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#33 Posted by dondave (35987 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: Thor's TP resitance is way too spotty to suggest J'onn couldnt control him and even at that Martian Manhunter can have the Avengers attack Thor.

#34 Edited by sophia89 (3500 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by reaverlation (15187 posts) - - Show Bio

It's the most powerful Martian Manhunter meaning Fernus?Possibly clears or stops at Surfer

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#36 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6231 posts) - - Show Bio

It's the most powerful Martian Manhunter meaning Fernus?Possibly clears or stops at Surfer

Personally, I think MM would defeat SS. If SS would someday use the full range of his "purported" power-set, then I may change my mind. Until then, his "awesome" near limitless potential remains hyperbole (for the most part).

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#37 Posted by highaccuser (5964 posts) - - Show Bio

Assuming Fernus is not intended in this thread, and by all the avengers you mean every one ever than I think between Quasar, Thor, Moondragon, Nova Prime, Captain universe, Hyperion, Doctor strange, Hulk, Hercules, Binary, Red hulk and all the others MM would probably be overwhealmed.

Even if he somehow gets past that, Surfer can solo him.

#38 Edited by reaverlation (15187 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii: Both have a chance of gaining a win over each other but as you said if Surfer actually uses his ridiculous versatility smartly,Surfer can possibly take this

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#39 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6231 posts) - - Show Bio

@super_soldierxii: Both have a chance of gaining a win over each other but as you said if Surfer actually uses his ridiculous versatility smartly,Surfer can possibly take this

Tis a big conditional, but yeah, he has the tools "in theory". Let's see him put to practice a bit more first though. Maybe his new series will help diversify.

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#40 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Its inconsistent but he has resisted more than not. And why would Martian tell the Avengers to attack Thor when he has no knowledge on his resistance? By the time he realizes his TP doesnt work on Thor and Hulk, and before he commands the rest to attack the them. He would have given Thor enough time to put him down with lightning.

#41 Posted by Trent_R7 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio said:

@dondave: Its inconsistent but he has resisted more than not. And why would Martian tell the Avengers to attack Thor when he has no knowledge on his resistance? By the time he realizes his TP doesnt work on Thor and Hulk, and before he commands the rest to attack the them. He would have given Thor enough time to put him down with lightning.

TP feats for J'onn are impressive enough to prove that he could mind assault both Thor and Hulk. Though both of them have resisted telepathy before, none of their opponent's TP was as powerful as MM's. The likes of Moondragon and Loki consistently take over Odinson's mind with little trouble, whereas the Martian Manhunter has assaulted the Spectre and has had many, many other impressive feats.

#42 Posted by dondave (35987 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio: It's inconsistent enough to suggest a high level telepath like Martian Manhunter wouldn't have any trouble getting into his mind.

I was giving credence to your argument that if Thor could supposedly resist it, he'd just have the Avengers attack him.

#43 Edited by Trent_R7 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@experio: It's inconsistent enough to suggest a high level telepath like Martian Manhunter wouldn't have any trouble getting into his mind.

I was giving credence to your argument that if Thor could supposedly resist it, he'd just have the Avengers attack him.

He couldn't anyway. Martian Manhunter has all the feats to rank him as one of, if not the most powerful telepath in the whole DCU, whereas Thor has been assaulted by beings with many less impressive showings.

Edit: Just noticed that the OP is using Fernus MM. Thor has absolutely no feats that prove that he could resist a mind assault from Fernus J'onn.

#44 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

No way he gets past 7

#45 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Its inconsistent but we dont calculate to determine the average, it means the majority is what we stick with. The majority is that he will resist, and Martian won't have the time to command the others to attack. Lighting will be coming at him.

#46 Posted by theONEtaichou (1514 posts) - - Show Bio

@trent_r7 said:

@dondave said:

@experio: It's inconsistent enough to suggest a high level telepath like Martian Manhunter wouldn't have any trouble getting into his mind.

I was giving credence to your argument that if Thor could supposedly resist it, he'd just have the Avengers attack him.

He couldn't anyway. Martian Manhunter has all the feats to rank him as one of, if not the most powerful telepath in the whole DCU, whereas Thor has been assaulted by beings with many less impressive showings.

Wow... this makes me happy. People are giving J'onn his due props.

good day

#47 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@trent_r7: Xavier? Moondragon (with gem)? PF Emma? Might want to rephrase, they're either equal or above (except Xavier)

#48 Edited by Trent_R7 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@kgb725 said:

No way he gets past 7

We don't even know what roster the OP is using..

#49 Edited by Trent_R7 (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio said:

@trent_r7: Xavier? Moondragon (with gem)? PF Emma? Might want to rephrase, they're either equal or above (except Xavier)

Xavier's TP isn't nearly as powerful as Fernus J'onn (OP said most powerful version of him), Moondragon has mind controlled Thor before and Phoenix Force Emma was PIS, since Thor has been assaulted by inferior beings.

Okay, I forgot that new users couldn't make more than 5 posts a day, so I won't be able to reply anytime soon.

#50 Posted by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio