#1 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

round 1 Morals on in the Grand Canyon

Round 2 Morals off in New york

#2 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1-Martian Manhunter

Round 2-Flash..

#3 Posted by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

Which version of Flash? If it's New-52 Barry than MMH should stomp both rounds.

#4 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

It is Barry Before NEw-52 Feat before 52 u can use.

#5 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

Which version of Flash? If it's New-52 Barry than MMH should stomp both rounds.

Pretty sure Barry would win Round 2, whether it's New 52 or not. He can just BFR him, can't he?

#6 Edited by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Bloodlusted Barry can speed force dump MMH if it's pre-52. MMH would win if Barry was in character and clearly not willing to potentially remove his friend forever.

I thought he was making a Wally thread since he was active in the superman vs wally thread. Wally would be spite.

#7 Edited by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

No MMH can turn intangible, then, coming from under him, reach into his head and rip out his brain MMH wins after a good fight. or if Barry is smart, he'll just run from the green beast!

#8 Edited by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

Why would he be a spite, and after your comment, BUMP. IS IT BECAUSE MMH WOULD OWN?

#9 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

Why would he be a spite, and after your comment, BUMP. IS IT BECAUSE MMH WOULD OWN?

Why would it be spite if Wally was here instead of Barry?

He can force MMH to be tangible, and he'd be immune to telepathy in round 2.

#10 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by emad_ishtiaque (370 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

No MMH can turn intangible, then, coming from under him, reach into his head and rip out his brain MMH wins after a good fight. or if Barry is smart, he'll just run from the green beast!

Actually Flash can prevent MM from going intangible.

#12 Edited by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

He can force MMH to be tangible, and he'd be immune to telepathy in round 2.

I don't remember it working out too well last time he tried, Flash was going to faceplant into a wall

plastic man had to save his head from going splat

A non-jobbing Manhunter should win,

Flash has a pathetic rogues gallery, street levelers with rayguns can give him trouble.

a monkey with mind power beat him

#13 Edited by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade said:

@xeon1cs said:

He can force MMH to be tangible, and he'd be immune to telepathy in round 2.

I don't remember it working out too well last time he tried, Flash was going to faceplant into a wall

plastic man had to save his head from going splat

And this isn't morals off Flash, so what is this supposed to prove?

I also don't know why you keep up this "street levelers with rayguns" thing. You don't seem very informed when it comes to his Rogues.

#14 Posted by XiiX (8228 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Round 1-Martian Manhunter

Round 2-Flash..

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#15 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

This is Barry Allen! He couldnt do that could E? Otherwise MMH has got intellect and strength over him

#16 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

This is Barry Allen! He couldnt do that could E? Otherwise MMH has got intellect and strength over him

Even if he can't, be just BFRs him in round 2.

#17 Posted by sync1 (2967 posts) - - Show Bio

@Charlie_Jade said:

@xeon1cs said:

He can force MMH to be tangible, and he'd be immune to telepathy in round 2.

I don't remember it working out too well last time he tried, Flash was going to faceplant into a wall

plastic man had to save his head from going splat

A non-jobbing Manhunter should win,

Flash has a pathetic rogues gallery, street levelers with rayguns can give him trouble.

a monkey with mind power beat him

Morals off, Barry would of won a long time ago.

#18 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

No MMH can turn intangible, then, coming from under him, reach into his head and rip out his brain MMH wins after a good fight. or if Barry is smart, he'll just run from the green beast!

As I said before

#19 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

-where are you and my fellow MMH FANS?????????

#20 Posted by SpectroRaphael (160 posts) - - Show Bio

MMH is also incredibly fast. He takes both rounds because of his TP.

#21 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

- You came when I called!

Bump

Martian would just go underground waiting for his prey.

#22 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5052 posts) - - Show Bio

MM both rounds

#23 Posted by SpectroRaphael (160 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt:Yep! He can go underground or straight up for enough time to use his telepathy. Flash can only keep him from going intangible if he gets his hands on him first, but with MMH's speed, that's very unlikely. Flash would have to go faster than light to take him down, but that's an instant BFR on himself!

#24 Edited by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

Why would he be a spite, and after your comment, BUMP. IS IT BECAUSE MMH WOULD OWN?

I said it would be spite because if it was Wally, he can and would kill Manhunter before he could even think to go intangible, and Wally could even force him to be tangible and then kill him and also be immune to his telepathy if he gave J'onn a 1 second headstart. He's literally instantly knocked out (white) Martians before while taking it EASY against Zom. And they have similar durability to MMH. Wally would absolutely spite stomp MMH both rounds, like he would every member of the Justice League, because he's absurdly, vastly overpowered.

If it's Barry, MMH is much more powerful and Barry lacks the stated IMP speed blitz feats that Wally has to kill him before he can use his powers in round 2. In round 1, assuming they are in character, Barry would probably run up to MMH to deliver some punches while MMH deliberates using TP. He'd go intangible and Barry, from what I know, hasn't shown proficiency with the speed force to force MMH tangible. Once MMH realizes he can't tag a serious Barry, he'd Telepathy him into unconsciousness.

In round 2, assuming bloodlust, Barry should still be able to blitz MMH at just short of FTL travel (he is a time travelling speedster afterall), which should still be much too fast MMH's reaction speed, and speed force dump him the way he did to Superboy Prime. This will remove both of them from the battlefield temporarily, but Barry can come back, thus defeating MMH by Battlefield Removal(if it's pre-52. New-52 Barry and his relation with the speed force is a little more complicated).

#25 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash stand no chance, I disagree with those flash fans- He is over powered, but also overated, he gets defeated by people weaker than batman enemies! LOL. MMH fights international threats such as Malefelic and white martians

#26 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

Flash stand no chance, I disagree with those flash fans- He is over powered, but also overated, he gets defeated by people weaker than batman enemies! LOL. MMH fights international threats such as Malefelic and white martians

Oh boy, here we go.

Who? Who does he get beaten by that is weaker than "batman enemies". Why do people say this? It's like you have no idea who any of his Rogues are.

#27 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

I doubt even wally can beat MMH! Especially at his prime

#28 Edited by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt: Zoom can and has solo'd everyone else in the Justice League, and he's Wally's rogue. He has lesser rogues from Barry's era who he toys with, or who he struggled against before he opened himself up to the speed force.

It has nothing to do with being a Flash fan. If that were the case I wouldn't say MMH easily takes round 1.

#29 Posted by KnightRise (4785 posts) - - Show Bio

Since when is Flash vulnerable to TP?

#30 Posted by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

@KnightRise: I'm pretty sure Barry Allen has never shown resistance to telepathy. Wally has even been hit by Telepathy if he doesn't intentionally speed up his thinking to levels telepaths can't interact with.

#31 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt: When Kanjar Ro's staff bloodlusted J'onn and Flash, they stalemated for a few panels. But when the Martian was a Black Lantern, he was able to beat up Flash and Hal Jordan at the same time.

Black Lantern J'onn

#32 Posted by Malevolent1 (1072 posts) - - Show Bio

The compelling argument here is: can J'onn become intangible before Wally can make physical contact with him? Moreover, can he become invisible before Wally can zero in on him? Time was, when they may have been evenly matched in speed...since that time, MM has decidedly become slower and Wally is...well...Wally is WTF speed...I honestly don't see J'onn measuring up to Wally in speed. That being the case...gotta roll with the Flash in both instances. He is just too fast for J'onn.

#33 Posted by Dredeuced (5535 posts) - - Show Bio

@Malevolent1: It's not Wally, it's pre-52 Barry. Wally could undoubtedly stomp MMH. Pre-52 Barry not so much.

#34 Posted by dondave (37380 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian Manhunter Both Rounds

#35 Posted by 18hunt (2903 posts) - - Show Bio

ManHunter via TP or intangibility!

#36 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (676 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash's speed force is too much, even for MM. Gotta go with my man the flash!

#37 Posted by KingofComix (211 posts) - - Show Bio

@18hunt said:

ManHunter via TP or intangibility!

TP doesnt work on flash and Intangibility has been countered by the flash before so it also wouldn't work. Wally stomps round 2.

#38 Posted by xeon1cs (1479 posts) - - Show Bio

@KingofComix said:

@18hunt said:

ManHunter via TP or intangibility!

TP doesnt work on flash and Intangibility has been countered by the flash before so it also wouldn't work. Wally stomps round 2.

It's Barry, not Wally.

Either way, Barry should just be able to BFR in round 2.