Mario and Bowser vs. Sonic and Dr. Eggman

Who wins in a fight to the death:

Mario and Bowser

OR

Sonic and Eggman

Video Game Versions(No Archie Comics versions of Sonic and Eggman)

1 hour of prep

No knowledge

No Chaos Emeralds

Mario has every power up except Star

Bowser and Eggman have entire army with them

Fight takes place in the Mushroom Kingdom

Who wins?

Wow no Archie comic version D: but thats when Dr robotnik can rewrite reality D:

Composite?

@nerdchore:

Mario and Bowser and Sonic and Eggman are

Sonic. He's faster than sound in Sonic CD. So he solostomps. Too fast.

Sonic wrecks.

@saint_of_origin:

He has to deal with Bowser and his forces too

Super Sayain, er, I mean Super Sonic solos.

Composite mario and bowser win.

None of them are even close to fast enough to react to supersonic ++ speeds. And I'm not talking about Sonic going Super Sonic. I'm talking about actual speed. Sonic is easily at least Mach 3 in base. He's also durable enough in his ball form to break through metal, rock, and other materials quite easily. So they're all fodder. Combat speed is extremely important in a fight, and these guys don't even have a hope in Hell of keeping up.

@sirfizzwhizz:

Did you read the rules. There's no chao emeralds allowed?

No chaos emeralds

@saint_of_origin:

kool

Meh, Robotnik makes mecha sonic then. Mecha Sonic solos.

1 hour...Wait, i have no counter-argument to that.

Well, Mecha Sonic solos. Then.

@sirfizzwhizz:

He has to deal with Bowser's entire army

And Mario and Bow Wow has to deal with Eggman's entire army

@saint_of_origin: sonic has no way to defeat bowser. And his minions include magikoopas boos and plenty more. Sonic isnt soloing that

Also this.

Sonic punked Tabuu. Its game versions after all.

@sirfizzwhizz:

Yet he struggles with a black hedgehog who would not live long amongst Tabuu

Um what? Sonic is incredibly strong. He can easily hurt Bowser. Spin dash ftw. Boos can't react fast enough to turn invisible, Magikoopas are fodder because they get blitzed. What you are saying would make sense if Sonic only had speed. But he doesn't. He has durability and strength too.

Shadow? Shadow solos everyone. He has Chaos Control with teleport attack abilities and more. What are you talking about?

@saint_of_origin:

Sonic isn't powerful enough to be a one man army. He has never faced anything like Bowser's troop before

@saint_of_origin: show me a strength feet that will hurt bowser. Mario who casually busts brick and stomps everything with the strength of his legs cant hurt bowser. His only means is to throw bowser into something or use an item.

They have armies? Metal Sonic solos.

@sirfizzwhizz:

Tabbu can blow up places and Shadow would die.

But never mind, Shadow isn't a part of this fight

^

@sirfizzwhizz:

Bowser Jr. will give him competition

Please that little troll cannot even stop my button mashing 8 year old in Mario Party 9.

@sirfizzwhizz:

I hate Jr. too, but he is Metal Sonic's Mario counterpart

Casually busting through a huge boulder with spin jump and then cracking that boulder to pieces by jumping off of it:

Thowing a pebble so hard that even after travelling a considerable distance it completely caused Eggman's vehicle to explode:

There's also a durability feat in that video. At around 1:08 he tanks an explosion. Unscathed. He also rips metal robots to shreds in the same video after that. Now show me some Bowser durability feats. Or proof that anyone from Bowser's army can even react to supersonic +++ speeds.

@saint_of_origin:

Sonic can throw a pebble.

HAHAHAHAHA!

Bowser can chuck friking meteors!

@sirfizzwhizz said:

@super_saiyan_devil said:

They have armies? Metal Sonic solos.

^

Mind if I steal that? Lol.

Throw a pebble with so much force that it causes a machine to explode despite losing a lot of it's initial force due to the distance it travels. Don't debate in your own thread. It's not allowed to take sides in your own debate.

@saint_of_origin:

I'm saying one of Bowser's feats. I'm not on his and Mario's side

Tossing meteors isn't a good DC feat. :/ It's a lifting strength feat. Throwing a pebble so hard it causes a sizeable explosion is. So the feat is irrelevant.

@super_saiyan_devil: Its on google, have at it.

@saint_of_origin:

Meh

Depend on how big bowser is to be honest.

could go either way

How??? None of them are anywhere near fast enough to tag Sonic, and he's strong enough to hurt them as I've shown. Sonic could solo quite easily, especially composite.

@saint_of_origin: fine team 2 then

@saint_of_origin:Bc there some version of Bowser that can lol stomp base sonic, although for the most part, most version should lose to sonic.

@jgames: Proof? What Bowser has supersonic +++ combat speeds?

Feats for anyone in Mario reacting to speeds even close to Sonic? Otherwise it's a mismatch.

@zeezee123: Can Bowser use the Mega Star?

If is yes then Mario and Bowser can beat even Hyper Sonic

I mean Mega Bowser created Supermassive Blackholes, entire galaxy, MFTL, Super strenght, invulnerabilty etc

@saint_of_origin: Mario has reacted at ligthing more than once and he travelled trough space at MFTL

For now Bowser and Mario stomps

Proof? It has to be natural lightning, it can't be magic. Magical lightning doesn't have a set speed. And it can't be aim dodging. Also, Sonic can use Chaos Abilities without Chaos Emeralds. So no, Sonic solostomps both of their heads off. I'm the only one who's provided feats. So provide some noteworthy ones and we'll have a debate

@saint_of_origin: They weren't magic lightning plus Giant Mario can literally stomp Sonic

Mega Star Browser can control the forces of the universe and he has incredible travel speed

Bowser 2 scary 4 you