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#51  Edited By xXkiraXx

Sure........if you say so....any ways manga totally rocks the house woot woot....but i still love DC and Marvel and whatnot....xD

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#52  Edited By One-Above-You

It's not infinite speed, but...

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#53  Edited By Resonate
Vance Astro said:
"Comics.CURBSTOMP."
seriously man, you picked some of the worst manga to be facing these characters. Shame shame :[
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#54  Edited By xXkiraXx
King Saturn said:
"I dont think Superman has infinite speed but he can move near light speed currently"

True....he can move around earth 20 times in less then ....lets suposse......2 minutes?
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#55  Edited By King_Saturn
xXkiraXx said:
"Sure........if you say so....any ways manga totally rocks the house woot woot....but i still love DC and Marvel and whatnot....xD"
LOL

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#56  Edited By xXkiraXx
Resonate said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Comics.CURBSTOMP."
seriously man, you picked some of the worst manga to be facing these characters. Shame shame :["
hahaha its you.....i remember you at the kkk debate ...lol...
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#57  Edited By Resonate
xXkiraXx said:
"Resonate said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Comics.CURBSTOMP."
seriously man, you picked some of the worst manga to be facing these characters. Shame shame :["
hahaha its you.....i remember you at the kkk debate ...lol..."
If only I knew who you were too D:
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#58  Edited By Sparda
xXkiraXx said:
"really just put the guns down....superman does not have infinite speed"

I didn't say he had it.....I said that I thought that the page here had him listed under that. I was mistaken, as that was wikipedia, which as we know, probably isn't a viable source.

Though, in my (short) search, I turned up the previous scan, as well as Superman moving "Trillions" of miles in seconds, as well as entering "Hyperspace" (whatever the definition for that is).
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#59  Edited By xXkiraXx
Sparda said:
"xXkiraXx said:
"really just put the guns down....superman does not have infinite speed"

I didn't say he had it.....I said that I thought that the page here had him listed under that. I was mistaken, as that was wikipedia, which as we know, probably isn't a viable source.

Though, in my (short) search, I turned up the previous scan, as well as Superman moving "Trillions" of miles in seconds, as well as entering "Hyperspace" (whatever the definition for that is)."
Word...
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#60  Edited By Swagga Boy
Resonate said:
"xXkiraXx said:
"Resonate said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Comics.CURBSTOMP."
seriously man, you picked some of the worst manga to be facing these characters. Shame shame :["
hahaha its you.....i remember you at the kkk debate ...lol..."
If only I knew who you were too D:"


................................................lol
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#61  Edited By xXkiraXx

So.......who here like Deathnote?

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#62  Edited By xXkiraXx

Anyone?

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#63  Edited By One-Above-You

lol Did you expect everyone to answer 30 seconds after you posted?

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#64  Edited By xXkiraXx

Not really just testing the quality of this thread...xD

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#65  Edited By Kimikirai

We're off topic talking about Superman's speed...

Can someone please list the Phoenix reality altering feats? I would like to know if it beats:
- changing the physics of the universe
- stopping three beings who can create, alter, and destroy multi-verses
- creating the universe/multiverses/and all reality

And who would be able to defeat Giorno's Golden Requiem? A stand which reduces all of the opponents actions to zero (even thought)?

I should have added Dark Schneider and The Lord of Nightmares.

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#66  Edited By Ego
xXi0RIXx said:
"you know what


Dark Phoenix shared all the abilities of the Omega-level mutant, Jean Grey, and added to those greatly making her one of the most powerful beings in the universe.

These powers included telepathy which branched off into many other abilities such as: telepathic cloak, cloak mind, and psionic shield which are all methods to protect one's mind from being detected or assaulted.

She can also create illusions with her telepathy and uses it to camouflage herself, allowing her to change form or become invisible.

Telepathy also allows her to manipulate the minds of others for domination. This includes mind control or possession. This also allows her to change the personality of a person however she wishes and she can induce paralysis (either physical or mental).

She can manipulate memories and transfer her mind and powers with that of another. If she touches the brow of a being she can induce mental pain or if she desired, pleasure.

She can use her powers to keep someone unconscious as long as she continues to sedate them. She can increase power levels of others to exponential levels, but only temporarily, or she can make them temporarily unable to use their powers.

Also she can create a psychic link with any being of her choice (she has one with Cyclops). She can also create psychic blasts that only effect the mind and she can sense other superhumans if they are in a close vicinity. She can project her astral form or become a psionic firebird.

Her telekinesis gives her the abilities of levitation, heat generation and creating force fields or concussive force.

She has the ability to manipulate time, space, matter and energy to virtually any degree thanks to the Phoenix Force. Also, she has utter control over life force as that is what the Phoenix Force is the embodiment of; so she can resurrect herself or others after death.

The Phoenix Force also gives her the ability of Cosmic Pyrokinesis, a control and summoning of a cosmic fire that can burn absolutely anything she desires, and she has complete control over it.

She can use her cosmic abilities to give herself superhuman strength, the limits to which are assumed virtually nonexistent.




BAB COPY AND PAST IF YOU DONT GET IT XDDDDDDDD



lol
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that was alot of reading, and your points are taken considerably. in fact... alot of what you said are true, but phenix. actaully lets say the WHITE CROWND PHOENIX is near-omnipotant. not competely. but as omnipotent as she is.. IT... tenchi is a god of gods, so if she is in the presents of tenchi.... no matter where she is god will always be around you.. she is owned by ... God. and that's what tenchi is all about.



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#67  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Comics win.

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#68  Edited By Nelomaxwell

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#69  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Winmate.

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#70  Edited By Nelomaxwell

Look this is an odd thread i mean we have to count for peoples dimensions and the effect they on other people as well as whether or not Anime universes have the same solar radiation as comic book universes. I'm as much a comic fan as any Vance but of this a actually battle and not a popularity contest these things have to be counted

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#71  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Nelomaxwell said:
"Look this is an odd thread i mean we have to count for peoples dimensions and the effect they on other people as well as whether or not Anime universes have the same solar radiation as comic book universes. I'm as much a comic fan as any Vance but of this a actually battle and not a popularity contest these things have to be counted"
I'm not voting for popularity.
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#72  Edited By Erik
Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"- Than post a feat showing examples of this.

"Holding the universe in your hand" means nothing."
Please read "Here comes tomorrow" It seems like you know nothing of the Phoenix.
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#73  Edited By Hedatary
erik said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"- Than post a feat showing examples of this.

"Holding the universe in your hand" means nothing."
Please read "Here comes tomorrow" It seems like you know nothing of the Phoenix."
Dude, magneto was able to hold off against the Pheonix. That says something
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#74  Edited By Erik
Hedatary said:
"erik said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Sparda said:
"Kimikirai said:
"You're obviously not well versed in the Tenchi-verse. You probably only saw a show or two where he is disguised as a highschool student on earth.

And please. How can you not understand that the feats you have listed do not even come close to stopping the Choushins, rewriting the physical laws of the universe, etc..

Telekinesis, Pyrokinesis, etc.. vs stopping 3 Goddesses who have wiped out multi-verses with a simple thought. Gee, the Phoenix feats sure are bigger. -_- *sarcasm*"
Did you read the part where it says "she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"? It seems like you're only focusing on her psychic abilities. I don't suppose you've heard about when Phoenix was holding the universe in her hand and whatnot?"
"she can manipulate time, space, matter to virtually any degree"- Than post a feat showing examples of this.

"Holding the universe in your hand" means nothing."
Please read "Here comes tomorrow" It seems like you know nothing of the Phoenix."
Dude, magneto was able to hold off against the Pheonix. That says something"
When? In the 80's when the Phoenix power wasn't really established? Please don't say Xorn either.
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#76  Edited By xXi0RIXx

lol i just remembered something very important


manga wins XDD
i found my tenchi muyo manga

and tenchi is GOD
xDD
i mean actuall

JESUS DADDY god like XDD

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#77  Edited By Desilation

i think theres alittle confusion because manga is comics but from japan they just call it manga instead of comics so your just putting american comics against its japanese relative whats up with that 

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#78  Edited By khathala messa

can't choose sides 0_O

and no Dante, heero yuui, moka-chan or kakashi (hangs himself)

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#79  Edited By King_Saturn
xXi0RIXx said:
"lol i just remembered something very important


manga wins XDD
i found my tenchi muyo manga

and tenchi is GOD
xDD
i mean actuall

JESUS DADDY god like XDD"
LOL

Okay
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#80  Edited By One-Above-You
xXi0RIXx said:
"lol i just remembered something very important


manga wins XDD
i found my tenchi muyo manga

and tenchi is GOD
xDD
i mean actuall

JESUS DADDY god like XDD"
DC's Jesus Daddy version of God was killed by Saint of Killers with a bullet.
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#81  Edited By Hedatary
One-Above-You said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"lol i just remembered something very important


manga wins XDD
i found my tenchi muyo manga

and tenchi is GOD
xDD
i mean actuall

JESUS DADDY god like XDD"
DC's Jesus Daddy version of God was killed by Saint of Killers with a bullet."
Shit! i wanna see that, can you bring a scan?
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#82  Edited By xXi0RIXx
One-Above-You said:
"xXi0RIXx said:
"lol i just remembered something very important


manga wins XDD
i found my tenchi muyo manga

and tenchi is GOD
xDD
i mean actuall

JESUS DADDY god like XDD"
DC's Jesus Daddy version of God was killed by Saint of Killers with a bullet."
lol

well nothing can hurt him
not even a feather
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#83  Edited By sky goblin

comics FTW oh and xxkiraxx were probably the only two people that like deathnote by the way who is your fav character on deathnote mine is Light yagami

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#84  Edited By shenron

we should put in post crisis to make things easier on Tenchi.

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#85  Edited By One-Above-You
shenron said:
"we should put in post crisis to make things easier on Tenchi."
What? I don't think there is a Pre Crisis or Post Crisis in Marvel, and I doubt there is one in Manga.
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#86  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
TheDrifter said:
"Comics"
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#87  Edited By King_Saturn
Comics indeed should win
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#88  Edited By Kimikirai

I'm going to admit I started this thread and cheated, just to see how biased people can be.

How many people picked comics just because? Research? Nah~ comics are cooler. lol.

*surprise*

Tenchi is the equivalent of Marvel's TOAA.

White Crown Phoenix, a nigh-omnipotent, cannot beat Tenchi, a omnipotent, period. He created all existence. You cannot beat him. Any attack will be multiplied by "0" literally. Like I said, he took 3 Beyonder level beings and treated them like children.

People should research or not post on a thread unless they are: a. prepared or b. well-versed in the topic.

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#89  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Vance Astro said:
"TheDrifter said:
"Comics"
"
King Saturn said:
"Comics indeed should win"
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#90  Edited By One-Above-You
Kimikirai said:
"I'm going to admit I started this thread and cheated, just to see how biased people can be.

How many people picked comics just because? Research? Nah~ comics are cooler. lol.

*surprise*

Tenchi is the equivalent of Marvel's TOAA.

White Crown Phoenix, a nigh-omnipotent, cannot beat Tenchi, a omnipotent, period. He created all existence. You cannot beat him. Any attack will be multiplied by "0" literally. Like I said, he took 3 Beyonder level beings and treated them like children.

People should research or not post on a thread unless they are: a. prepared or b. well-versed in the topic.
"
He couldn't have taken out 3 Pre-Retcon beyonder's because PR Beyonder was The One-Above-All at the time. Name one feat those three "Beyonder" level beings have done that, for example, Mr. Mxyzptlk can't do.
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#91  Edited By Kimikirai

Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse. Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. Now think about what that means for the PotWC. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix.

Tenchi is TOAA. To continue an argument about the Phoenix beating him just shows stuborn ignorance.

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#92  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse.

Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix."
I don't know who Vince is but you lost pages ago.
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#93  Edited By One-Above-You
Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse. Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix.

Tenchi is TOAA. To continue an argument about the Phoenix beating him just shows stuborn ignorance."
I thought The Beyonder let him steal his powers for a test...
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#94  Edited By Kimikirai
Vance Astro said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse.

Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix."
I don't know who Vince is but you lost pages ago."
Right, because you proved that the Phoenix can beat an omnipotent being who created the multi-verse. lol

You're delusional. Let me guess, Wolverine can beat Giorno too (after all comics > manga)!
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#95  Edited By One-Above-You
Kimikirai said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse.

Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix."
I don't know who Vince is but you lost pages ago."
Right, because you proved that the Phoenix can beat an omnipotent being who created the multi-verse. lol

You're delusional. Let me guess, Wolverine can beat Giorno too (after all comics > manga)!"
White Phoenix of the Crown was holding the Multiverse in her hands, correct?
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#96  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Kimikirai said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse.

Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix."
I don't know who Vince is but you lost pages ago."
Right, because you proved that the Phoenix can beat an omnipotent being who created the multi-verse. lol

You're delusional. Let me guess, Wolverine can beat Giorno too (after all comics > manga)!"
I stopped arguing in here...you already lost.Your still making reference to things I said.I have been done with this thread for a long time.You can call me delusional and lol all you want but nobody is on your side.
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#97  Edited By Kimikirai
One-Above-You said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse. Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix.

Tenchi is TOAA. To continue an argument about the Phoenix beating him just shows stuborn ignorance."
I thought The Beyonder let him steal his powers for a test..."
I don't recall that. I don't have the Secret Wars on hand. Perhaps if you have a copy on your computer you can pull the scene where that was stated. I'm not doubting you, I just do not recall that at all.
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#98  Edited By shenron

Superman could take tenchi down singlehandedly.

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#99  Edited By Kimikirai
Vance Astro said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse.

Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix."
I don't know who Vince is but you lost pages ago."
Right, because you proved that the Phoenix can beat an omnipotent being who created the multi-verse. lol

You're delusional. Let me guess, Wolverine can beat Giorno too (after all comics > manga)!"
I stopped arguing in here...you already lost.Your still making reference to things I said.I have been done with this thread for a long time.You can call me delusional and lol all you want but nobody is on your side."
You never did argue. You started with "comics win" and never gave an argument.

Furthermore, "having more people on your side" does not mean you "won". If you go to Nazi Germany and argue that colored people are equal to blue-eyed Caucasians you'd lose. That doesn't mean they're right.

You don't debate objectively. You're biased. The thread proved it. Done with you.
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Kimikirai said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Kimikirai said:
"Beyonder *claimed* he was. Obviously he wasn't, seeing how he was defeated by Dr. Doom.

And Vince. The Phoenix IS psionic energy. To kill the Phoenix, you have to eliminate all the Psionic energy in  the multiverse.

Tenchi has re-written the laws of physics for the multiverse. I stated that early on. I wonder who really knows more about Phoenix."
I don't know who Vince is but you lost pages ago."
Right, because you proved that the Phoenix can beat an omnipotent being who created the multi-verse. lol

You're delusional. Let me guess, Wolverine can beat Giorno too (after all comics > manga)!"
I stopped arguing in here...you already lost.Your still making reference to things I said.I have been done with this thread for a long time.You can call me delusional and lol all you want but nobody is on your side."
You never did argue. You started with "comics win" and never gave an argument.

Furthermore, "having more people on your side" does not mean you "won". If you go to Nazi Germany and argue that colored people are equal to blue-eyed Caucasians you'd lose. That doesn't mean they're right.

You don't debate objectively. You're biased. The thread proved it. Done with you."
YOU LOST.